Why the masses are not flocking to Postflaviana?

Richard Stanley

Well-Known Member
A more radical idea would be to work up a 'Conspiracy Theory' and promote that to fringe sites like Daily Grail. See if you can get the fundies riled up. See if someone wants to debate.

Or maybe sell t-shirts.
Conspiracy Theory? You mean as opposed to our Conspiracy Factualism? :eek:

I have talked to Jerry about various merchandizing, but I'd be afraid to wear such where I live. The partisans are pretty riled up these days. A man got killed recently for wearing a Make Russia Great Again item, by a lefty mistaking it for a MAGA item.
 

Seeker

Active Member
How appropriate to reveal yourself on the eve of Holy Week! "Jesus" and "Jerry" do begin the same, and are both composed of five letters. Just be careful that you do not end up the same way as Jesus/Izates/whoever else, and be taking a one way trip to Chester as a reward for your "victory", that is not advisable to be doing during the "Chinese flu season".
 

Jerry Russell

Administrator
Staff member
Thanks Sarge!

Looking back at the OP in this thread, it's obvious what the problem is: Rick and I are too shy and/or too preoccupied, to give this site the attention and effort that the topics deserve. I'm very grateful to Robert M. Price, Derek Lambert, and all the other researchers in this field who are able to work much harder than us, and who come up with a continual stream of new insights.
 

Richard Stanley

Well-Known Member
Well, maybe this is the definitive answer?


I frequently violate 3 of Hemingway's 4 writing rules. At least I use "vigorous language".
 

windhorse

Member
I like it
Claude Badley asked:



Which seems like a very good question to me. And, important enough to put in its own thread.

Why aren't we attracting more traffic? What could we do to become more influential?

It seems to me that there are several obvious things we could do to improve the website.

More content?

We have a Wordpress landing page that hardly ever changes. We post new research articles once in a blue moon. If we were able to maintain some sort of regular publication schedule, perhaps our readers would be motivated to stop by regularly and see what's new. We do manage to post to the discussion forum almost on a daily basis. But many of our posts are brief comments that wouldn't be out of place on Twitter or Facebook. Or, extensive cut-and-paste from other websites.

I think our website would deserve more attention, if we were able to post more original content. But, Richard and I both have personal limitations that severely impact our ability to create a lot of text and research.

Audio & Video?

Another obvious step would be to create more audio & video: podcasts, documentary productions & such. But again, Richard and I are up against personal limits: anybody who has listened to our old podcast series with Joe Atwill, will understand that I have some speech challenges in terms of cluttering & uptalk.

Reach out to other websites?

Even with our limitations, there is a lot of information on this site, with a unique viewpoint that you won't find anywhere else. Or at least, I like to think so.

Maybe we could reach out and ask other websites to post our material, or link to it, or discuss it in their own content. We could create a blogroll of recommended sites, and then ask ever other site on that blogroll to reciprocate.

Buy advertising?

I could afford to do some of this. Should I??

Concentrate on our strengths?

In my view, what we really have to offer on this site, is our analysis that Christianity, Judaism and Islam should be seen as inventions of wartime political propaganda. And, the extent that their malign influence on politics is continuing into modern times. Specifically, we say that ancient prophecies are being re-enacted by our modern elites, who seem hell-bent on bringing about an Apocalypse.

Neither Richard nor I have any education or professional experience that would qualify us to speak to these issues. Our only excuse is that we believe that the academic departments devoted to these particular topics, have been completely co-opted, bought and paid for by organized religion. To the point where they can hardly begin to recognize the obvious.

But... in addition to our material about our focus topic, we have a hodge-podge of other stuff. Global warming, special & general relativity, cosmology, nuclear fusion, literary analysis, space travel, 5G cell phone radiation, Fukushima, AI, ancient aliens, Atlantis: you name it, we've got something to say about it.

And more often than not, Richard and I can't even agree about what's going on.

Change our view?

If only we would admit that Einstein was wrong, or that nukes don't exist, or that MMGW isn't happening, or that the earth is flat, then suddenly the masses would show up here in droves after all?

Do Richard and I each need our own website?

I ask you, how irritating is it to watch Rick & me argue endlessly and repetitively about some topic? One might hope for progressive enlightenment. But more often than not, we just stay in the same opposing trenches. In some cases we've been having the same arguments for almost two decades now.

Joe Atwill and I agree about a lot of things, but I think we're both happier now that we've gone our separate ways.

Is it time for Jerry Russell to get his own website? I'm thinking of nabbing "AgainstApocalypse.org", which is still available after all the years I've been thinking about it.

Other ideas?

Now that we have a small cadre of regulars, I'd really like to ask.

What can we do here at PF, to serve you and the planet better?
I'm new to your forum, and my only suggestion is not to worry about popularity. It's often more curse than blessing.
 

Jerry Russell

Administrator
Staff member
I like it
Thank you Windhorse, and I'm sorry that I haven't welcomed you earlier. I am not yet certain what the future will bring for this website, but I appreciate that you stopped by for conversation.

I frequently violate 3 of Hemingway's 4 writing rules.
Umair Haque thinks we need to break Hemingway's rules, if we're going to get our message across:

Why I Hate All the Writing Advice I’ve Ever Been Given

It’s no coincidence that the exemplars of these rules are all a certain kind of person — not just an old white man, but an old white man exemplifying the very American ideals of rugged self-reliance, machismo, brutality: Hemingways, Franzens, and so on. Now, that’s not to disparage them. But it is to say that these rules canonize writers of a certain kind, with a certain set of Western, masculine, capitalist values, by exalting writing of one very narrow, specific form.
So the rules of good American writing exclude. Who? Women, minorities, gays, browns, blacks, even poor whites. The excluded, demonized, marginalized, hated, scorned. They can be pitied, maybe — but never really understood, under these rules. Their experience cannot be reduced so simply to making little mental pictures that plot linear conflicts. Their experience — which is mine, too — is about a broken heart in every word that was never said, histories of trauma in every glance, whole worlds shattering and fracturing. We cannot merely show all that, with strategies to maximize attention — we must let the heart speak all the foolish and difficult words it needs to say.
We can only ever really tell simple stories of domination and conquest, stories of capitalism and patriarchy and supremacy, with these rules.
 

Charles Watkins

Active Member
Jerry, since you seem to have some doubts about continuing with the Forum, please accept a couple of suggestions that might give it a boost. Personally, I like the size because I get a variety of articles, but not so many I can't keep up. However, I expect you would like more readers/commenters and also more participation by authors and scholars in this area. So what might you do?

First, consider rebranding. 'Postflaviana' means nothing to most people and is a little bit confusing since much of the content is Flavian and pre-Flavian. If you just came across the name, you would not know what to expect. You'll attract more readers if you punch it up -- something along the lines of 'Faking Jesus'. I'd also put an introduction on the banner page. 'Aton Bomb' is a good piece, but you should present the Flavian thesis at the top.

I hardly ever get Postflaviana links when I'm doing searches on a related subject, but a rebranding might get the attention of more crawlers. It would also be an opportunity to remind the Web of your presence and maybe attract some links. Aggregators like Infidel753 list topics like yours all the time. Put out some click-bait.

Second, consider reorganizing the Forum according to sources rather than topics. This is mainly to draw authors and scholars who are disinclined to browse the whole Forum. Have separate topics for Ellis, Price, Atwill, and other leading lights. Give guys like Seeker and Claude their own topics. When a good post comes in, let them know and see if they might respond. The fact you provide an intelligent, cordial readership will be an attraction, as will your superb moderation. (I have never seen any trolling or spamming here -- at all.)

You can also provide individual threads for featured videos, providing an opportunity to discuss what we have seen. You might also consider creating anthology threads, collecting the posts on various subjects. You want to avoid those rambling mega-threads like Cleo-to-Christ. This might also be a time to prune the Forum of dead topics and distractions.

That's all I've got for now. Thanks for your consideration. And cheers!
 
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Jerry Russell

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Staff member
Hi Charles, thanks for your input. I've really appreciated your participation here.

Part of the "re-branding" might involve a shift of focus. While Richard was interested in a huge variety of topics, I think I might like to focus the site more on modern politics and how they're influenced by religion. That doesn't necessarily shift the interest away from authors like Ellis, Price, Atwill and so forth entirely, because they provide essential background information to understand what's happening today. But I'm not sure the differences between those authors can be resolved, or that the details are relevant to events today.

For a new URL, how about 'against-apocalypse.org'?
 

windhorse

Member
Jerry, if you decide to keep the forum I like Charles' idea of renaming it. ?

Nothing wrong with putting it on idle for awhile either. Whatever you feel is best.

I don't know if this will bring you some comfort, but I've had several NDE type experiences, as has a friend of mine. There is another "place," if you will, and I call it Home. It's impossible to describe.

Our own individual experiences of such things are, I know, deeply personal, and are near impossible to convey in words.

But my conviction based on my own experiences is that Richard is Home. And quite alive.
 

Jerry Russell

Administrator
Staff member
Jerry, if you decide to keep the forum I like Charles' idea of renaming it. ?

Nothing wrong with putting it on idle for awhile either. Whatever you feel is best.
Thanks, Windhorse. I'm afraid that the best I can do for now is to try to keep the site alive by making brief posts from time to time, in hopes of not completely losing the small following that we have already built up over the years.

For the future, I think that many of Charles's suggestions above are excellent. While I expect that I would keep the old site on line indefinitely, there is plenty of material here to support a complete re-launch under a new brand identity with a new URL and new graphics.

Richard and I fell into the habit of using the discussion forum as a sort of notepad for work in progress, without ever finally organizing the work into an easily accessible, readable and indexed format. Part of this is just a result of the fact that the Xenforo forum software is quick and easy to use, while the Wordpress blog format takes more work and thought.

I don't know if this will bring you some comfort, but I've had several NDE type experiences, as has a friend of mine. There is another "place," if you will, and I call it Home. It's impossible to describe.

Our own individual experiences of such things are, I know, deeply personal, and are near impossible to convey in words.

But my conviction based on my own experiences is that Richard is Home. And quite alive.
Thank you. This website might convey an impression of being anti-religious. And we are (or, Richard was, and I am) certainly opposed to the co-option of genuine religious or spiritual sentiment, by self-serving invocations of "scripture" which is nothing more than ancient wartime propaganda. I myself am possibly rather tone-deaf when it comes to personal spiritual experience. But I acknowledge (even if I don't gnow) that the existence of the universe, and the nature of consciousness, are both ultimately unsolved mysteries. So I don't deny the possibility that you are right about where Richard is now, and I hope that it's true.
 
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