Who Created the USA and .... WHY?

[Richard Stanley]

The following video, below, provides an excellent presentation of what I have stated recently in regard to how 'ordinary' members of Freemasonry likely feel about what their mission(s) is(are). This was made in the discussion about Freemasonic members of MKULTRA participating in the LSD propagation program. And specifically as relating to the celebratory nature of those at the 'reunion party'.

Please note the production's more balanced view of the supposed goals of these various masonic groups, and as well, the subtle linkage to the Jesuits. The latter being the main focus of Tupper Saussy's book, Rulers of Evil (or Jerry has hosted it here), which is also focused on the secret history of the USA - and thus reveals the dovetailed event timings of the masons and the Jesuits. In any case, with the video one has to pay careful attention to the quick mention of the Bavarian Illuminati as being a Jesuit organization.

But Adam Weishaupt was a Jesuit professor of Church canon law at a Jesuit university after all. And the Illuminati started at the time that the Jesuits were disestablished by the Church, left to wander in the Wilderness for 40 years (depending on how you are counting), before being accepted back into the good graces of the Church. The metaphorical 'Wilderness', at the time, was really in quietly joining into the various masonic lodges like the French Grand Orient lodges.

Whether contrived, as Tupper Saussy claimed in his Rulers of Evil, or not: his claim is that the timely, and supposedly bloody, Disestablishment of the Jesuits is what enabled the Catholics to garner the good graces of the highly Protestant American colonists, who otherwise hated them. “The enemy of my enemy is my friend”, and thus Jesuit based Catholicism is ironically the vastly predominant form found in the United States of America, and the most powerful block in American national politics, with some considerable help from the JFK assassination.​

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The Jesuits were restored to the good graces of the Catholic Church beginning in 1801 in Russia. Meanwhile, the Bavarian Illuminati were officially condemned in Prussia in 1785, but continued to infiltrate the Freemasons whose work continues to this day.​

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These events were watersheds. Ever since then, these influences can be seen in the banking system, in Freemasonic dominance over “democratic” governments in America and Europe. In the mass media, the use of “illuminati symbolism” as well as reversed Gospel typology can be seen as a trademark of this influence.​

http://postflaviana.org/elite-sub-species/​

As such, I am neither endorsing or decrying the views of the video or their producers, whom go to length to criticize certain aspects. But rather I am appealing to stop the simplistic framing of matters that all supposedly 'lifetime actors' are motivated by evil intentions, albeit they may have adopted the Jesuitic principle of any means to a good end, as long as you don't let the Church or your order get caught. Moreover, most of these players really have no idea what the real goals of the unknown superiors are.

The lunacy of taking such a simplistic approach is clearly observed in the video's presentation of the facts about intra-masonic brotherhood that occurred across the sides of both the Revolutionary and Civil Wars. I remember hearing about such occurring long ago, but had no frame of reference to place it properly in at the time, and thus it was just some strange curiosity. But, by now, there should be no excuse for anyone not to see this type of behavior as making a complete mockery of conventional historical analysis, ---- and thus American Culture altogether.

The video also mentions something important, besides the big meta-masonic meeting at the Rothschild estate. Namely, that the various sub-categories of Masonry were sponsored by the various offices of the Euro-royals (who are all inbred and a related clan). In this light, and if one is inclined to think of such as JFK and Adolf (whoever the F he really was) as going off to spend the rest of their lives at the proverbial Hidden Resort(s) of the Hidden Hand, then one might want to consider that Louis and Marie (Let them eat cake.) might really have ended up there, somewhat like Napoleon did on St. Helena. The evil Napoleon was sent to a pampered live of exile. BTW, this pampering played a central role in the hilariously ironic 2001 movie, The Emperor's New Clothes.

Isn't it odd that the little emperor, of the glorious revolution against the nobility, was really a member of the Italian nobility? Here, you might want to consider that the video mentions that the presidential candidate of the brief American Anti-Masonic Party was .... a Mason. It's all a hall of mirrors.

The video frames the masonic members, generally, as reflecting those higher in the (pyramidal) pecking order of nobility and gentry - and thus their equivalents once moving into the New World. As I have, the video scorns the hypocritical treatment of native peoples, contrary to the high minded rhetoric - which is the same problem that the Christian Churches have BTW. The big problem here, is that those issuing this hypocritical rhetoric were probably quite sincere in their uterances, but THEIR CULTURE MADE THEM DO IT [SIC]. As I have recently come to understand via these culture discussions here, their culture is not your culture.

The game here, is all about a contiguous process of global consolidation, and the USA is just an intermediate stepping stone in the big plan (from either a biblical or Grand Architect perspective). So all the kvetching in the world about one's racial worth, or lack thereof, and some supposed island of time when the culture was golden isn't going to help much in navigating the waves to come. Pretty much all of history, seen through the proper lens, reveals that the intentions of the Grand Architect (and whom he represents) are likely no more benign than the bloody means that have been used to get us this far. But unfortunately, the Sheep, as even revealed by some of those here on this forum, show that they yet want to be Cowed into remaining as Shark Food. Some Fish genetically understand that there is safety in numbers, and because this is not absolutely true, they yet need to learn new cooperative (Cultural) strategies and tactics against the Sharks and Whales, aka Shepherds.

Preview for video -- the full documentary is at Amazon or Hulu.

 

[Richard Stanley]

Please let Jerry and I know if you have problems downloading the Rulers of Evil book, as we have had to change the link from the original one we had (whose content was swapped out).

 

[Jerry Russell]

Richard,

About Rulers of Evil, I'm feeling a little guilty about linking to a copyright violation. Maybe we should be encouraging our readers to buy the book. Or perhaps we could do a review / appreciation with extensive quoting.

 

[Richard Stanley]

The last I checked on the book is that is was listed as $60 for a used copy. Oh my, there is a Kindle version supposedly being readied for $7.99.

 

[Jerry Russell]

Ah, we've been through this once before about Saussy. When we first heard of the book, there was a very lengthy excerpt, if not the entire work, at Saussy's website. That information disappeared about the time that the promise to publish an update appeared. But, it's been a long wait.

The above new link to 'pacinlaw' does work eventually, but loads very slowly on my machine. I've decided to host it here for now as well, at this link:

http://postflaviana.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/RulersofEvil.pdf

If we get contacted by the publisher, we can ask how they're coming with the new edition.

 

[Jerry Russell]

The video "A Secret History: The Making of America" covers much of the same ground as a video entitled "Vatican Secret Societies and the New World Order" that Loren posted recently here. The latter video features interviews with Eric Jon Phelps and pastor Bill Hughes, a Seventh Day Adventist. I think that Phelps and Hughes have another implicit view of the "American culture" that is being degraded from, namely the Protestant / Baptist / Puritan / Calvinist culture. According to this worldview, these various Protestants arrived in the New World in a brave attempt to escape religious persecution in Europe, and they carried ideals of personal freedom, as well as doctrinally "correct" versions of the Christian message, saved from Catholic corrupting influences. Phelps and Hughes indicate that the suppression of the Jesuits in 1773 was a serendipitous coincidence that allowed the American protestants to gain their freedom & create the Republic. They do see some Freemason influence on the American revolution, but their attitude about it is quite confused. Jefferson, Washington, Adams and Franklin are identified as Freemasons, but they were also strongly anti-Jesuit and anti-Catholic. Obviously, Phelps and Hughes would be happier if the Founding Fathers were Protestants instead of Freemason Deists, but the full implications don't really sink in.

And, I confess, I have a hard time seeing the Founding Fathers as a bunch of Catholic tools. Their view seems more modern to me compared to the Protestants of the time; and Protestantism is, basically, another exoteric popular religion, while Freemasonry is sufficiently sophisticated to appeal to the more elite, who would also join Freemasonry for the political & financial connections.

The documentary makers seem willing to accept any anti-Jesuit material with complete credulity. They show an interviewer trying to confront the current Jesuit General with a quote from the "Jesuit Extreme Oath of Induction". The supreme Jesuit seems genuinely puzzled, like he's never heard of it. This oath is probably a completely spurious hoax. Also, they talk about the category of "Jesuit coadjutor", which seems to mean something like "crypto-Jesuit." That is, someone who they think acts like a Jesuit, even though they haven't got the slightest trace of evidence actually connecting that person to the Jesuits.

Pretty much all of history, seen through the proper lens, reveals that the intentions of the Grand Architect (and whom he represents) are likely no more benign than the bloody means that have been used to get us this far.

In your view, Richard, if the Globalist Grand Architect is so powerful and pervasive and sophisticated, how is it that they haven't already achieved their ultimate goal? That is, if you accept that their goal is to restore the feudal system that existed in the Middle Ages, and to extend that same system over the entire world, then what is stopping them?

Could it be that "culture" -- that is, way of life of ordinary people, and their desire for freedom, justice and prosperity, which is often expressed through nationalistic, local, and tribal mechanisms -- is in fact the predominant force in opposition to the globalists?

Here's a link to a better copy of the "Vatican Secret Societies" video, without advertising interruptions. It's three hours long -- I was able to use 2x speed for most of it, but sometimes it's necessary to slow down to understand what's being said.

 

[lorenhough]

The following video,below, provides an excellent presentation of what I have stated recently in regard to how 'ordinary' members of Freemasonry likely feel about what their mission(s) is(are). This was made in the discussion about Freemasonic members of MKULTRA participating in the LSD propagation program. And specifically as relating to the celebratory nature of those at the 'reunion party'.

Please note the production's more balanced view of the supposed goals of these various masonic groups, and as well, the subtle linkage to the Jesuits. The latter being the main focus of Tupper Saussy's book, Rulers of Evil, which is also focused on the secret history of the USA - and thus reveals the dovetailed event timings of the masons and the Jesuits. In any case, with the video one has to pay careful attention to the quick mention of the Bavarian Illuminati as being a Jesuit organization.

But Adam Weishaupt was a Jesuit professor of Church canon law at a Jesuit university after all. And the Illuminati started at the time that the Jesuits were disestablished by the Church, left to wander in the Wilderness for 40 years (depending on how you are counting), before being accepted back into the good graces of the Church. The metaphorical 'Wilderness', at the time, was really in quietly joining into the various masonic lodges like the French Grand Orient lodges.

Whether contrived, as Tupper Saussy claimed in his Rulers of Evil, or not: his claim is that the timely, and supposedly bloody, Disestablishment of the Jesuits is what enabled the Catholics to garner the good graces of the highly Protestant American colonists, who otherwise hated them. “The enemy of my enemy is my friend”, and thus Jesuit based Catholicism is ironically the vastly predominant form found in the United States of America, and the most powerful block in American national politics, with some considerable help from the JFK assassination.

The Jesuits were restored to the good graces of the Catholic Church beginning in 1801 in Russia. Meanwhile, the Bavarian Illuminati were officially condemned in Prussia in 1785, but continued to infiltrate the Freemasons whose work continues to this day.

These events were watersheds. Ever since then, these influences can be seen in the banking system, in Freemasonic dominance over “democratic” governments in America and Europe. In the mass media, the use of “illuminati symbolism” as well as reversed Gospel typology can be seen as a trademark of this influence.
http://postflaviana.org/elite-sub-species/​

As such, I am neither endorsing or decrying the views of the video or their producers, whom go to length to criticize certain aspects. But rather I am appealing to stop the simplistic framing of matters that all supposedly 'lifetime actors' are motivated by evil intentions, albeit they may have adopted the Jesuitic principle of any means to a good end, as long as you don't let the Church or your order get caught. Moreover, most of these players really have no idea what the real goals of the unknown superiors are.

The lunacy of taking such a simplistic approach is clearly observed in the video's presentation of the facts about intra-masonic brotherhood that occurred across the sides of both the Revolutionary and Civil Wars. I remember hearing about such occurring long ago, but had no frame of reference to place it properly in at the time, and thus it was just some strange curiosity. But, by now, there should be no excuse for anyone not to see this type of behavior as making a complete mockery of conventional historical analysis, ---- and thus American Culture altogether.

The video also mentions something important, besides the big meta-masonic meeting at the Rothschild estate. Namely, that the various sub-categories of Masonry were sponsored by the various offices of the Euro-royals (who are all inbred and a related clan). In this light, and if one is inclined to think of such as JFK and Adolf (whoever the F he really was) as going off to spend the rest of their lives at the proverbial Hidden Resort(s) of the Hidden Hand, then one might want to consider that Louis and Marie (Let them eat cake.) might really have ended up there, somewhat like Napoleon did on St. Helena. The evil Napoleon was sent to a pampered live of exile. BTW, this pampering played a central role in the hilariously ironic 2001 movie, The Emperor's New Clothes.

Isn't it odd that the little emperor, of the glorious revolution against the nobility, was really a member of the Italian nobility? Here, you might want to consider that the video mentions that the presidential candidate of the brief American Anti-Masonic Party was .... a Mason. It's all a hall of mirrors.

The video frames the masonic members, generally, as reflecting those higher in the (pyramidal) pecking order of nobility and gentry - and thus their equivalents once moving into the New World. As I have, the video scorns the hypocritical treatment of native peoples, contrary to the high minded rhetoric - which is the same problem that the Christian Churches have BTW. The big problem here, is that those issuing this hypocritical rhetoric were probably quite sincere in their uterances, but THEIR CULTURE MADE THEM DO IT [SIC]. As I have recently come to understand via these culture discussions here, their culture is not your culture.

The game here, is all about a contiguous process of global consolidation, and the USA is just an intermediate stepping stone in the big plan (from either a biblical or Grand Architect perspective). So all the kvetching in the world about one's racial worth, or lack thereof, and some supposed island of time when the culture was golden isn't going to help much in navigating the waves to come. Pretty much all of history, seen through the proper lens, reveals that the intentions of the Grand Architect (and whom he represents) are likely no more benign than the bloody means that have been used to get us this far. But unfortunately, the Sheep, as even revealed by some of those here on this forum, show that they yet want to be Cowed into remaining as Shark Food. Some Fish genetically understand that there is safety in numbers, and because this is not absolutely true, they yet need to learn new cooperative (Cultural) strategies and tactics against the Sharks and Whales, aka Shepherds.

Preview for video -- the full documentary is at Amazon or Hulu.

hi jerry & Richard is this true? see what you think; there a church to Washington for becoming a member of the popes church.


below cut from this site; http://freemasonrywatch.org/george_rc.html

On December 13, 1799, Washington (aged 67 years) was exposed to a storm of sleet and developed a cold. He rested in bed at his home in Mount Vernon, Virginia.

On the morning of the 14th at 3:00, he had a severe attack of membranous croup. At daybreak, Mrs. Washington sent for the only physician, Dr. Craik. Two other physicians also came, but all three together could not save him. Washington died between 10:00 and 11:00 that night.
About four hours before Washington’s death, Father Leonard Neale, a Jesuit priest was called to Mount Vernon from St. Mary’s Mission across the Piscataway River. Washington had been an Episcopalian, but was baptized into the Roman Catholic Church that night. After Washington’s death, a picture of the Blessed Virgin Mary and one of St. John were found among the effects on an inventory of articles at his home.
George Washington had an interest in Roman Catholicism for many years. His servant Juba stated that the General made the Sign of the Cross before meals. He may have learned this practice from his Catholic lieutenants, John Fitzgerald or Stephen Moylan. At Valley Forge, Washington had forbidden during “Pope’s Day,” the burning in effigy of the Roman Pontiff. As President, Washington slipped into a Catholic Church several times to attend Sunday Mass.
http://www.beliefnet.com/resourceli...ington_to_the_Roman_Catholics_in_the_U_1.html
more here;
https://www.google.com/#q=washington+death+became+a+catholic+jesuit+priest

 

[Jerry Russell]

The topic of what happened at Washington's death bed is controversial. The "official story" is given by Tobias Lear, Washington's secretary, whose reportedly eyewitness account indicates that Washington died as he lived, as a Freemason and a Deist. The idea that he converted to Catholicism (or that he was a closeted Catholic) seems to come from some oral tradition among his slaves. From what I've seen, these accounts don't say which slaves these were, or when the tradition was written down.

Eric Jon Phelps notes the strange sudden onset of the disease, and is suspicious that Washington might have been poisoned by a Jesuit (Neale?) It's also been mentioned that Washington's doctors bled him of five pints of blood, which is nearly enough to be fatal in itself.

 

[Richard Stanley]

Obviously, Phelps and Hughes would be happier if the Founding Fathers were Protestants instead of Freemason Deists, but the full implications don't really sink in.

And, I confess, I have a hard time seeing the Founding Fathers as a bunch of Catholic tools. Their view seems more modern to me compared to the Protestants of the time; and Protestantism is, basically, another exoteric popular religion, while Freemasonry is sufficiently sophisticated to appeal to the more elite, who would also join Freemasonry for the political & financial connections.

If one comes into such an analysis with such an a priori bias as Phelps and Hughes then they are bound to have a distorted result. As obviously they cannot accept connecting any dirty dots to their camp. Anybody who knows anything about Freemasonry and the Protestants, writ large, knows that they were all full of Freemasons, especially the Baptists. In many cases, Freemasons would hold their meetings in church halls. Long story short, this is just one reason why such as Freemasons, and even the Jesuits, should be viewed as esoteric organizations inside their respective exoteric Churches. Such as the masons claim that they are not a 'religion' and this is how they let the exoteric churches rationalize having their congregants be masonic members.

Generally, you would be correct that most Freemasons would be horrified to think of themselves as Catholic tools, especially witting ones. But, as Loren brought up, Washington may be something of a different animal. And Saussey detailed some of this, such as his close associations with the Carroll family, I believe. He spent a fair amount of time across the river sleeping at their premises, remember: "George Washington slept here."

In any case, George was also posthumously honored, like Romulus and Julius Caesar by being deified, as represented in the Capitol Dome artwork: The Apotheosis of Washington. This means being raised to Heaven - as a god, like his fellow Roman founding fathers. Well, was he a Roman tool or not? What Protestants allow this sort of blasphemous treatment. OK, traditional Catholics don't either.

As for being an Episcopalian, there was a joke by the other mainstream Protestant denominations about the Episcopalians being faux Protestants. This also goes to my theory that the Church of England foundation was a clever hoax, meant to mitigate the spread of the other Protestants as well as being the controlled opposition for the Mother Church. Remember that Henry VIII was named Defender of the (Catholic) Faith by the pope only shorty before the divorce business leading to the English Reformation.

BTW, mindcontrolblackassassins.com has a group pic of early Seventh Day Adventists with 3 clergy (not) showing the hidden hand. How can anybody claim credibility being a member of a church that insisted the End Times would come on a certain day and then it didn't (or was that twice?)?

The documentary makers seem willing to accept any anti-Jesuit material with complete credulity. They show an interviewer trying to confront the current Jesuit General with a quote from the "Jesuit Extreme Oath of Induction". The supreme Jesuit seems genuinely puzzled, like he's never heard of it. This oath is probably a completely spurious hoax. Also, they talk about the category of "Jesuit coadjutor", which seems to mean something like "crypto-Jesuit." That is, someone who they think acts like a Jesuit, even though they haven't got the slightest trace of evidence actually connecting that person to the Jesuits.

This is the exact same problem with transparency as with other 'secret societies' right. They can deny any such claims, but then why not allow outsiders to examine their practices? Why are so many traditional Catholics concerned about the Jesuits, etc.? What is the need for a church to have a so-called military order, as it labeled itself, albeit that seems to function more like a military intelligence outfit?

As Saussey demonstrated, the Jesuits pop back up in the middle of the USA, otherwise a hotbed of Protestants all paranoid about Catholics in general. Paranoid because of centuries of Protestant vs. Catholic warfare in Europe. And, BTW, this is around the same time that the evangelical Awakening begins, the real, real faux Protestants.

 

[Richard Stanley]

http://www.beliefnet.com/resourceli...ington_to_the_Roman_Catholics_in_the_U_1.html

Thanks Loren. The following does not address your question but I found this funny in your link, given how some people get so sensitive about those 'liberals' today:

As mankind become more liberal they will be more apt to allow that all those who conduct themselves as worthy members of the community are equally entitled to the protection of civil government. I hope ever to see America among the foremost nations in examples of justice and liberality.​

http://www.beliefnet.com/resourceli...ington_to_the_Roman_Catholics_in_the_U_1.html​

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As to whether GW converted or not I don't know, but as I mentioned before, Saussey's book discusses close associations to the Maryland Catholics across the Potomac from him.

As Saussey discussed, Maryland (Mary Land) was THE Roman Catholic colony, the other 12 being different colonies devoted to their respective Protestant Christian sects, almost all being virtual theocracies at the time. The land for Washington D.C. was donated by wealthy Catholics (either the Carrolls, the Calverts, or the Whites?) and the estate had been known as Rome on the Tiber. A creek running into the Potomac was supposedly called the Tiber at the time. In any case, Washington D.C. was carved out of the Catholic colony. Baltimore was named after the Lord's Baltimore, a Catholic peerage of England. The contemporaneous Lord Baltimore and fellow Catholic Lord Bute, were those who contrived with George III to implement the tax policies that upset the previously happy colonists.

Somewhere I have a pamphlet by Anton Chaitkin, a former associate of Tarpley's that documents the history of Albert Gallatin, who as a young man conveniently arrived in America just after the end of the Revolution. He came from a Swiss banking family aligned with the famous Savoys. He set up operation in western Pennsylvania as a land speculator. At some point George Washington came to him because George was about to go under financially. Gallatin saved his bacon, and eventually became the Sec Treasury for three presidents. He arranged sweetheart loans from Switzerland to pay for the Louisiana Purchase made with Napoleon. Gallatin is the AG in today's AG Edwards Bank, BTW.

The English Savoy House is where the Congregationalist denomination started up, and wrote their charter. The Congregationalists had ministers that were heads of the Skull and Bones Society, and the Bush family at times have been Congregationalists. The Savoys are also known today as the royals of Italy. They had to take an extended vacation after the war because of their association with the Fascists, but they have been restored since.

As I have mentioned elsewhere, James Carroll the author of Constantine's Sword, is the son of an USAF general from the Virginia / Maryland region. I'm guessing it is likely that they descend from the same Carrolls of Maryland. James and his father attended the 1959 unveiling of Jesus's seamless robe (the ephod of a Jewish high priest) that is stored and displayed (rarely) at the Trier Cathedral. Trier was the capitol city of Constantine. The prior display of the robe was in 1933 to celebrate Hitler's election to power. While Hitler declined to attend, he sent Franz von Papen in his stead, the man who negotiated the Concordat with the Vatican. Franz von Papen attended the 1959 showing as well, and became a Papal Chamberlain.

The Italian Fascists built several model cities in Italy before the war. One of them was named Sabaudia, after the ancient region, known today as Italian Piedmont, France's Burgundy (where the origins of the House of Orange is), and the Swiss Haute Savoy. The post office in Sabaudia had blue tiles of the color Savoy Blue.

 

[Mike Dexter]

The video "A Secret History: The Making of America" covers much of the same ground as a video entitled "Vatican Secret Societies and the New World Order" that Loren posted recently here. The latter video features interviews with Eric Jon Phelps and pastor Bill Hughes, a Seventh Day Adventist. I think that Phelps and Hughes have another implicit view of the "American culture" that is being degraded from, namely the Protestant / Baptist / Puritan / Calvinist culture.

I haven't watched the video yet - not sure if I will. Anyway, in the past I have listened to many interviews with Eric Jon Phelps and read some of his material. He has a certain point of view which affects whatever amount of actual logic he may possess. I think he's a Seventh Day something, but not Adventist. I recall that anyone who disagreed with him was a " Jesuit coadjutor".

 

[Jerry Russell]

In "Vatican Assassins", Phelps describes himself as a "Dispensational, Premillennial, Pre-Tribulation Appearing of Christ, Fifth Monarchy Anti-Papacy, Anti-Jesuit, Anti-Masonic, Seventh-Day, Baptist-Calvinist Puritan", which I suppose is a very different thing from a Seventh Day Adventist? I'm not sure if Bill Hughes is exactly an orthodox Seventh-Day Adventist either, he may be a member of a splinter sect, but he seems to consider himself still 7DA.

 

[Richard Stanley]

http://www.conspiracyworld.com/phelps_zionist_promoter.htm

It seems to me that Phelps is way too ambitious in trying to cover too many bases, trying to have his cake and eat it too. Two many too's.

But, in this pursuit one must take data wherever they can find it, and then come to their own conclusions. As a demonstration of why I think the best approach to take is that all of the Catholic vs. Protestant, Masonic vs. Jesuit, ... is really all of one "divide and conquer" construct I will next present a video that demonstrates the role of the Book of Revelation in the ongoing mess, where the Catholic Church has indeed been faithfully fulfilling the claims of the Crypto-Jewish Protestants.

If one wants to skip ahead of the long recital of the details of the Beast of Rev 13 then go to 8:40 to start. As the video shows earlier, a "beast is a kingdom", as set out in Daniel 7. Please note that the video lays out the actions and official statements of the Church that thus make it conform to the prophecy. Why would the Church act so, so as to feed the propaganda of the Protestants? And after all, it was Constantine's efforts that ended up including the Book of Revelation in the Nicene Canon, bookending all the rest. Similarly, as stated in the book When Scotland was Jewish, it was Charlemagne's efforts that ultimately led to so many goys becoming converted to Judaism in southern France and elsewhere, and centuries later ending up in Scotland, England and elsewhere to become Crypto-Jewish Protestants. These goys became converted to Jews almost like the Canaanites that had been converted to Jews (via the efforts of certain specific people from Egypt).

The Daniel prophecies lay out a prior strata of a geopolitical gameplan dated to the time of the Hasmoneans, whom we have identified as being allied with first the Hellenizing Greeks and later the Romans. Separately, I will lay outs some text from Josephus showing just why the Jews, generally speaking, were (and yet are) so enamored of Alexander.

Daniel 7:23 KJV
Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.​

I would not complain at all if someone would transcribe the list of document references in the video.

 

[Jerry Russell]

Joe's analysis in SSM says that all these prophecies of the Beast were fulfilled by Vespasian, Titus and Domitian. But I suppose there's nothing stopping the Catholics from fulfilling the same prophecy over and over.

The "World's Last Chance" people seem to be (another?) breakaway SDA sect. They advocate for a literal 'flat earth'. They claim that an exceptionally high percentage of astronomers have been Jesuits, and that the Jesuits were responsible for creating the modern view of the universe, supplanting the old biblical view. Hmm, EJP thinks the same thing, that the earth is flat.

 

[Richard Stanley]

I should probably open a new thread on this Norman Conquest business, but this first bit only goes to further demonstrate how hard it is to unravel Roman Catholic issues from Jewish and Crypto-Jewish / later Protestant issues.

As per the account (see the link below), the Norman Conquest begins in late 1066 and in 1070 (1000 years after the fall of Jerusalem) papal legates re-crown William at Easter. The day accorded to the Resurrection of the King of the Jews.

In early 1070, having secured the submission of Waltheof and Gospatric, and driven Edgar and his remaining supporters back to Scotland, William returned to Mercia, where he based himself at Chester and crushed all remaining resistance in the area before returning to the south.[76] Papal legates arrived and at Easter re-crowned William, which would have symbolically reasserted his right to the kingdom. William also oversaw a purge of prelates from the Church, most notably Stigand, who was deposed from Canterbury. The papal legates also imposed penances on William and those of his supporters who had taken part in Hastings and the subsequent campaigns.[77] As well as Canterbury, the see of York had become vacant following the death of Ealdred in September 1069. Both sees were filled by men loyal to William: Lanfranc, abbot of William's foundation at Caen received Canterbury while Thomas of Bayeux, one of William's chaplains, was installed at York. Some other bishoprics and abbeys also received new bishops and abbots and William confiscated some of the wealth of the English monasteries, which had served as repositories for the assets of the native nobles.[78]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_conquest_of_England​

Author Ralph Ellis has noted that underneath a car park (a parking lot) in Chester (the seat of Cheshire) is the ruins of an old Roman fort (Dewa) from the time of Emperor Claudius(?). This fort was discovered to have a very unique feature, namely in the center of it was a sacred shrine, in the shape of a vesica piscus, the symbol to become the secret symbol of Christianity. Or as archaeologist, Bertram asserts, the symbol of the cult of Chrestianity of which he believes the Flavians and friends were part of. Chrest -- Chester? The facility had 12 portals, like the later stations of the Cross in a Roman Catholic Church.

"They paved paradise and put up a parking lot."​

 

[Richard Stanley]

Joe's analysis in SSM says that all these prophecies of the Beast were fulfilled by Vespasian, Titus and Domitian. But I suppose there's nothing stopping the Catholics from fulfilling the same prophecy over and over.

Exactly. As I've discussed before the Catholic Church had the Jesuits produce two mutually exclusive views of the End Times, both of which are in conflict with Joe's, albeit the first only partially so. The first one, the Preterist School asserts that the End Times had indeed already occurred, but had been completed with Constantine's recognition of Christianity and the concurrent drop of support for the pagans. The second one, the Futurist School, asserts that the End Times were then, and are still yet to come. These interpretations were supposedly brought up to combat the Calvinist claims that the papacy was the Anti-Christ.

Thus EJP is a member of the Jesuit's Futurist School, whether he knows it or not.

(The video also mentioned that the title Vicar of Christ means the "substitute for Christ". Of course if one allows to alter the prefix from Anti- to Ante-, then it indeed allows for the papacy to be the serialized substitutes for Christ, whom we know originally as the Roman emperors, whom originally held the title and office of Pontifex Maximus.)

The "World's Last Chance" people seem to be (another?) breakaway SDA sect. They advocate for a literal 'flat earth'. They claim that an exceptionally high percentage of astronomers have been Jesuits, and that the Jesuits were responsible for creating the modern view of the universe, supplanting the old biblical view. Hmm, EJP thinks the same thing, that the earth is flat.

I was not aware of EJP being a Flat Earther, but he is correct that a Jesuit priest did come up with the Big Bang Theory. The astronomers at NASA's and the Jesuit's LUCIFER telescope on Mt. Graham in Arizona are indeed ... Jesuits. And the latter are telling us that Space Jesus is indeed coming.

Maybe EJP is onto something?

 

[Mike Dexter]

The second one, the Futurist School, asserts that the End Times were then, and are still yet to come. These interpretations were supposedly brought up to combat the Calvinist claims that the papacy was the Anti-Christ.

Is the Futurist School equivalent to premillennial dispensationalism? That flavor seems to be rather dangerous. As I recall, they believe that General Jesus will come back and rapture up all Christians, then rule the Earth for 1,000 years from Jerusalem with the aid of the Sainted Rapured, or something like that. My private theory (shared here now) about the support of Trump by premillennial dispensationalists is based on their belief or hope that he will hasten Armageddon, thereby hastening the return of General Jesus on an express space ship. Similarly, some deluded 9/11 truthers support Trump because they think he will reveal the truth about 9/11 once he is President.

 

[Richard Stanley]

Is the Futurist School equivalent to premillennial dispensationalism? That flavor seems to be rather dangerous. As I recall, they believe that General Jesus will come back and rapture up all Christians, then rule the Earth for 1,000 years from Jerusalem with the aid of the Sainted Rapured, or something like that.

It is my opinion that the two are connected, but I'm not sure if they are directly connected, at least in the first degree. In any case, if one understands that Cyrus Schofield was sponsored by elite Judaic interests and that such as the Rothschilds are as yet Vatican bankers, then we know, as with many other points of linkage, that we are really looking at one construct that only superficially appears to be two competing ones. This is the point of Jerry's and my Western Civilization False Dialectic schema.

As Jerry mentioned Joe's correct view about the Jewish War being the End Times being referred to, if the Daniel and Revelation prophecies (or revelations) are indeed referring to contemporaneously future kingdoms, which Daniel states, then these geopolitical scripts had indeed not been fully played out by the time of the Jewish War. Therefore, Joe is also incorrect, thus 'proving' that quantum effects also take place at the macro level, and why I have termed these the Quantum End Times.

My private theory (shared here now) about the support of Trump by premillennial dispensationalists is based on their belief or hope that he will hasten Armageddon, thereby hastening the return of General Jesus on an express space ship. Similarly, some deluded 9/11 truthers support Trump because they think he will reveal the truth about 9/11 once he is President.

Your theory sounds quite plausible to me. We really need to review what role the horn plays in the Revelation script. Doesn't Trump seem like a perfect metaphorical trumpet?

There were some 9/11 researchers, like me, who got the feeling that the entire 9/11 tableau was so grossly assembled with clues of malfeasance that it was meant to be exposed at some unknown point. Later I came to the conclusion that it was all done so as some kind of disheartening psychological message to demonstrate the impunity of the perpetrators. These would be those of an internationalist agenda over those who want to maintain their nationalist integrity. And now I understand how this plays into the process of 'cultural leveling'. Pretty much everyone - with an intact brain - understands the USA role in 9/11, and from the globalist's perspective they cannot allow the so-called Ugly American type to be perpetuated into the final phase of their project. Ironic, because they are the ones who created the Ugly American meme in the first place. The globalist Lord giveth with one hand and the Lord taketh with the other.

 

[Mike Dexter]

As Jerry mentioned Joe's correct view about the Jewish War being the End Times being referred to, if the Daniel and Revelation prophecies (or revelations) are indeed referring to contemporaneously future kingdoms, which Daniel states, then these geopolitical scripts had indeed not been fully played out by the time of the Jewish War. Therefore, Joe is also incorrect, thus 'proving' that quantum effects also take place at the macro level, and why I have termed these the Quantum End Times.

Well, as above, so below.

Your theory sounds quite plausible to me. We really need to review what role the horn plays in the Revelation script. Doesn't Trump seem like a perfect metaphorical trumpet?

Since he changes his "mind" all the time, sometimes in the same sentence, perhaps that makes him an "uncertain trumpet"?
https://www.foreignaffairs.com/reviews/capsule-review/1960-04-01/uncertain-trumpet

Anyway, the original name was "Drumpf", whatever that is.

There were some 9/11 researchers, like me, who got the feeling that the entire 9/11 tableau was so grossly assembled with clues of malfeasance that it was meant to be exposed at some unknown point. Later I came to the conclusion that it was all done so as some kind of disheartening psychological message to demonstrate the impunity of the perpetrators. These would be those of an internationalist agenda over those who want to maintain their nationalist integrity. And now I understand how this plays into the process of 'cultural leveling'. Pretty much everyone - with an intact brain - understands the USA role in 9/11, and from the globalist's perspective they cannot allow the so-called Ugly American type to be perpetuated into the final phase of their project. Ironic, because they are the ones who created the Ugly American meme in the first place. The globalist Lord giveth with one hand and the Lord taketh with the other.

Right. I recall one researcher (don't recall who) who said that instead of LIHOP or MIHOP, 9/11 was a case of MITOP - Make It Transparent On Purpose. It's bleedingly obvious to those who pay attention, but ignored by the usual suspects and those who are victims of the Official Conspiracy Theory propaganda.

 

[Marcilla Smith]

"... the trump shall resound, and the Lord shall descend, even so, it is well with my soul."

-- It Is Well with My Soul, United Methodist Hymnal #377, WORDS: Horatio G. Spafford, 1873