What does Circumcision and warfare; have to do with one another?

lorenhough

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Dr. James DeMeo author of Saharasia – The 4000 BCE Origins of Child Abuse, Sex-Repression, Warfare and Social Violence in the Deserts of the Old World. What do sexual suppression, social violence, rape, child molestation, circumcision and warfare have to do with one another?

Alexander the Great conquered the Middle East in the 4th century BCE, and in the following centuries ancient Greek cultures and values came to the Middle East. The Greeks abhorred circumcision, making life for circumcised Jews living among the Greeks (and later the Romans) very difficult.

After the failed First Jewish–Roman War in 70 CE, the Roman authorities took measures to suppress the rebellious province of Judea. Instead of a procurator, they installed a praetor as a governor and stationed an entire legion, the X Fretensis, in the area. Tensions continued to build up;

The proximate reasons seem to centre around the proscription of 'circumcision', the construction of a new city, Aelia Capitolina, over the ruins of Jerusalem, and the erection of a temple to Jupiter on the Temple mount.

Antiochus Epiphanes outlawed circumcision, as did Hadrian, which helped cause the Bar Kokhba revolt. During this period in history, Jewish circumcision called for the removal of only a part of the prepuce, and some Hellenized Jews attempted to look uncircumcised by stretching the extant parts of their foreskins. This was considered by the Jewish leaders to be a serious problem, and during the 2nd century CE they changed the requirements of Jewish circumcision to call for the complete removal of the foreskin, emphasizing the Jewish view of circumcision as intended to be not just the fulfillment of a Biblical commandment but also an essential and permanent mark of membership in a people;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumcision Prevalence of circumcision by country
upload_2015-4-1_11-42-58.jpegAncient humans were peaceful - modern violence is avoidable. That's the basic message contained in "Saharasia", a controversial "marriage of heresies" over 10 years in the making. It will change forever your way of looking at the world, your home culture, and current events.

Saharasia constitutes a revolutionary new discovery on a geographic pattern to global human behavior as deeply embedded within the scientific literature of anthropology, history and archaeology. It covers issues and events which typically are ignored in the "politically correct" academic environment, even though it was produced within that same environment. Saharasia presents the first cross-cultural, anthropological, archaeological and historical survey of human family and social institutions, tracing human violence back in time to specific times and places of first-origin. Saharasia also presents an additional controversy, given the factual identity of the violence-prone Saharasian region to be the homeland of the Islamo-fascist terror brigades.

Saharasia has at several times in human history been the region from which massive armies marched out to conquer those moister regions lying at its periphery: into Europe, China, India and sub-Saharan Africa. These would be the early Indo-Aryan, Kurgan and Battle-Axe warriors, the Scythians and Huns, the Mongols, Turks, and Arab-Muslims, all of whom formed gigantic empires encompassing desert Saharasia and parts of its moister borderlands. While the analysis contained in this book starts around 12,000 BC and ends at around 1900 AD, the suggestion is clear, that the modern problem of global terrorism also springs forth from basic Saharasian-warrior roots. If you really want to know why so much of the world is in such a miserable condition, and to fully understand the current "march to war" within Islamic nations, this book will provide answers. One of the largest and most ambitious scientific and systematic, cross-cultural evaluations of human behavior ever undertaken. Originally a doctoral dissertation undertaken by the author at the University of Kansas, now supplemented with new chapters, and with hundreds of maps and illustrations.

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http://www.amazon.com/Saharasia-Origins-Sex-Repression-Warfare-Violence/dp/0980231647

History
Circumcision is the world's oldest planned surgical procedure, suggested by anatomist and hyperdiffusionist historian Grafton Elliot Smith to be over 15,000 years old, pre-dating recorded history. There is no firm consensus as to how it came to be practiced worldwide. One theory is that it began in one geographic area and spread from there; another is that several different cultural groups began its practice independently. In his 1891 work History of Circumcision, physician Peter Charles Remondino suggested that it began as a less severe form of emasculating a captured enemy: penectomy or castration would likely have been fatal, while some form of circumcision would permanently mark the defeated yet leave him alive to serve as a slave.

The history of the migration and evolution of the practice of circumcision is followed mainly through the cultures and peoples in two separate regions. In the lands south and east of the Mediterranean, starting with Sudan and Ethiopia, the procedure was practiced by the ancient Egyptians and the Semites, and then by the Jews and Muslims, with whom the practice traveled to and was adopted by the Bantu Africans. In Oceania, circumcision is practiced by the Australian Aborigines and Polynesians. There is also evidence that circumcision was practiced among the Aztec and Mayan civilizations in the Americas, but little detail is available about its history.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maccabees

Judea had been under Ptolemaic rule, but fell to the Seleucids around 200 BCE. Some Jews, mainly those of the urban upper class, notably the Tobiad family, wished to dispense with Jewish law and to adopt a Greek lifestyle. The Hellenizing Jews built a gymnasium in Jerusalem, competed in international Greek games, "removed their marks of circumcision and repudiated the holy covenant".

When Antiochus IV Epiphanes (ca. 215–164 BCE), became ruler of the Seleucid Empire in 175 BCE, Antiochus pillaged the Temple, attacked Jerusalem and "led captive the women and children". From this point onwards, Antiochus pursued a zealous Hellenizing policy.. Circumcision was outlawed, and mothers who circumcised their babies were killed along with their families.


LH
 
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Richard Stanley

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Hi Loren,

The Saharasia book looks like Jerry or I must read it, as it seems to cover one important aspect of our research project. Thx.

The circumcision theory that it is some form of emasculating and identifying (a different form of 'branding') practice makes a lot of sense. There is also an idea that it serves, perhaps unintentionally, as a relatively ineffective, indirect form of population (if not birth) control in that it reduces the pleasure experienced by the man at least. This because having the glans always exposed to fabric and even the dry air reduces the tissue's nerve sensitivity, hence reducing the pleasure driven desire for sex over time. As such, you can find web links today of men discussing techniques to stretch their skin and recreate a foreskin so as to 'restore' the feeling in their real manhood so to speak. The reduction in testosterone from aging and other reasons also reduces the sensitivity.

Been busy lately and hopefully can catch up soon with your prolific comments.
 

lorenhough

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Hi Loren,

The Saharasia book looks like Jerry or I must read it, as it seems to cover one important aspect of our research project. Thx.

The circumcision theory that it is some form of emasculating and identifying (a different form of 'branding') practice makes a lot of sense. There is also an idea that it serves, perhaps unintentionally, as a relatively ineffective, indirect form of population (if not birth) control in that it reduces the pleasure experienced by the man at least. This because having the glans always exposed to fabric and even the dry air reduces the tissue's nerve sensitivity, hence reducing the pleasure driven desire for sex over time. As such, you can find web links today of men discussing techniques to stretch their skin and recreate a foreskin so as to 'restore' the feeling in their real manhood so to speak. The reduction in testosterone from aging and other reasons also reduces the sensitivity.

Been busy lately and hopefully can catch up soon with your prolific comments.
Hi Jerry how people came to have 'no empathy' is my point!

It also ties in with the history lesson with Goto; as children grow up with out there 'real' parents because of deserts conditions, like no rain for 7 years that can be so hard on people, like;
'loss of parents', that it made people grow up having 'no empathy', over time. 12,000years ago north Africa started to turn in to desert. Gnostic media turned me on to this. I have listen to all of gnostic m and tragedy and hopes stuff. and flow it still to day. I hope this helps.

Loren
 
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lorenhough

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Hi Jerry how people came to have 'no empathy' is my point!

It also ties in with the history lesson with Goto; as children grow up with out there 'real' parents because of deserts conditions, like no rain for 7 years that can be so hard on people, like;
'loss of parents', that it made people grow up having 'no empathy', over time. 12,000years ago north Africa started to turn in to desert. Gnostic media turned me on to this. I have listen to all of gnostic m and tragedy and hopes stuff. and flow it still to day. I hope this helps.

Loren

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Reign 8 June 218 – 11 March 222
Predecessor Macrinus
Successor Alexander Severus
Spouse Julia Cornelia Paula
Julia Aquilia Severa
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Marcus Aurelius Antoninus Augustus (c. 203 – March 11, 222), commonly known as Elagabalus /ˌɛləˈɡæbələs/ or Heliogabalus, was Roman Emperor from 218 to 222. A member of the Severan Dynasty, he was Syrian, the second son of Julia Soaemias and Sextus Varius Marcellus. In his early youth he served as a priest of the god Elagabal (in Latin, Elagabalus) in the hometown of his mother's family, Emesa. As a private citizen, he was probably named Sextus Varius Avitus Bassianus.[1] Upon becoming emperor he took the name Marcus Aurelius Antoninus Augustus. He was called Elagabalus only after his death.[2]
The Spanish word heliogábalo means "a person overwhelmed by gluttony".

In order to become the high priest of his new religion, Caesar of Rome Elagabalus had himself circumcised. He forced senators to watch while he danced around the altar of Deus Sol Invictus to the accompaniment of drums and cymbals. During this festival, Elagabalus placed the Emesa stone on a chariot adorned with gold and jewels, which he paraded through the city:
 
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Jerry Russell

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A critique of the Saharasia theory can be found here. Basically I feel there's a lot of merit to the thesis, but the emphasis on a particular geographic region as the cause of the problem is misdirected. The problems discussed have been (and still are to a great extent) endemic to human civilization.
 
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