The NRx, Neoreaction Ideology

Richard Stanley

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The following excerpted article asserts that Bannon is an typically crypto-adherent of "NRx ideology', and if so apparently also cuckholding the alt-Right as well as the original Zionists at Breitbart. Or, is all this a distinction without a difference at the end of the day?

I have to admit to having been too busy with other life matters in the last decade to have been aware of this NRx movement of elitist whites. That said, given that Bannon is also overtly a Traditionalist and apocalyptic Catholic, I would guess that the NRx, as described below is more fitting than the more common Populist and alt-Right labels. If the description is correct then the NRx is similar to the Traditionalist Catholic Corporatism, that is little more than a hierarchical caste system, with race based slave / serf castes.

In my Black Collared Magic post I mentioned Libertarian David Nolan's two dimensional graphing of the political dynamic that allowed for those evolving in seemingly different political directions to paradoxically meet in one place, say as eventual anarchists. In the case of the NRx, we apparently have the odd bedfellows of disgruntled progressives and conservatives, who are forsaking the ideals of democracy altogether. In essence desiring to rally behind a Strong Man, apparently even if this Strong Man is an overflowing douche bag.

A Rome by any other name is still a Rome. Since before these reactionaries grandparents were born, the US Supreme Court declared that corporations were virtual superhumans in terms of their comparative rights with human 'citizens'. So how can we not have expected democracy to eventually fail? Among other willful reasons.

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The main thrust of Yarvin’s thinking is that democracy is a bust; rule by the people doesn’t work, and doesn’t lead to good governance. He has described it as an “ineffective and destructive” form of government, which he associates with “war, tyranny, destruction and poverty.” Yarvin’s ideas, along with those of the English philosopher Nick Land, have provided a structure of political theory for parts of the white-nationalist movement calling itself the alt-right. The alt-right can be seen as a political movement; neoreaction, which adherents refer to as NRx, is a philosophy. At the core of that philosophy is a rejection of democracy and an embrace of autocratic rule.

The fact that Bannon reportedly reads and has been in contact with Yarvin is another sign of the extent to which the Trump era has brought previously fringe right-wing ideologies into the spotlight. It has brought new energy into a right that is questioning and actively trying to dismantle existing orthodoxies—even ones as foundational as democracy. The alt-right, at this point, is well-known, while NRx has remained obscure. But with one of the top people in the White House paying attention, it seems unlikely to remain obscure for long.

Yarvin’s posts on history, race, and governance are written in a style that is detached and edgy, to say the least. “What's so bad about the Nazis?” he asked in a blog post in 2008, writing, “we are taught that the Nazis were bad because they committed mass murder, to wit, the Holocaust. On the other hand... (a): none of the parties fighting against the Nazis, including us, seems to have given much of a damn about the Jews or the Holocaust. (b): one of the parties on our side was the Soviet Union, whose record of mass murder was known at the time and was at least as awful as the Nazis'.”

“It should be obvious that, although I am not a white nationalist, I am not exactly allergic to the stuff,” Yarvin wrote in 2007. In a 2009 post about the Scottish philosopher Thomas Carlyle’s defense of slavery, he argued that some races are more suited to slavery than others.

Yarvin’s blog has been mostly inactive since 2014. He now is focusing on a startup, Urbit, whose investors reportedly include Paypal co-founder and Trump backer Peter Thiel. (Thiel has himself questioned some of the fundamentals of American politics, writing in 2009, “I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible.”) ...

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/02/behind-the-internets-dark-anti-democracy-movement/516243/
 

Jerry Russell

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Yarvin (aka Mencius Moldbug) makes for some very interesting reading. Unlike most of these reactionaries who are coming from a traditionalist Catholic point of view, or at least crypto-Catholic, he's very secular. He doesn't like the "reactionary" label, he considers it a pejorative, though he says he'll answer to it. He prefers to call himself a "formalist" or "restorationist". I have the sense that he's a former libertarian, or at least very fond of libertarianism, but he's given up hope that the voters would ever bring in the libertarian program. Also, he's decided that national governments do have a legitimate right to occupy their territory & tax the occupants. So, he's invented the fantasy that some sort of bloodless coup could put the US government into a bankruptcy proceeding, with some sort of aristocratic panel of trustees that would appoint a CEO to manage a re-organization. For some reason, this CEO would create Moldbug's pseudo-libertarian paradise.

Richard, since you've been concerned about the deterioration of American mainstream Protestantism, you'll be happy to know that Moldbug believes that the Protestants are still very firmly in control. He argues that the mainstream Protestants, recognizing the limitations involved with the separation of Church and State, have simply gone crypto, and are now denying the obvious fact that they are a religion. But, he says, the old liberal Protestant ideals are still recognizably driving our allegedly secular systems of higher education, the press, medicine, law, government bureaucracy, and so forth. Specifically, he sees these secular systems as embodying the Quaker ideal of the "light within", driving towards social equality, multiculturalism, and universal suffrage. Also he sees them as a reflection of reformed Congregationalism, aka Unitarian Universalism. I had no idea that the Unitarians are the most successful and powerful non-church in the country, but he sees their ideals running rampant in the halls of Harvard and the New York Times, under the guise of "progressivism".

Joe will also be reassured to learn that the Jews have assimilated completely into this crypto-Protestant progressive system. Also, Moldbug isn't thinking that Trump will have any major effect on the existing system, since he's convinced that most of the "cathedral" is really immune to political pressure. In fact, I'm not quite sure what Moldbug sees as the problem with the existing system, other than that Harvard and New York Times orthodoxy promotes a few bad ideas like catastrophic global warming, and that they waste a certain amount of revenues that could otherwise be used to pay dividends to aristocrats.

Peter Thiel, similarly, seems to be following an intellectual trajectory which has led him to the conclusion that the voters will never approve the massive cuts in social spending, education, etc. that would lead to unfettered free capitalism, so he's decided the voters have got to go.

Overall, Moldbug's work seems to have attracted a following among Catholics who are proud to call themselves "reactionary", more that the progressive / libertarian types that his writing seems targeted to. The Atlantic article is concerned that Bannon is in contact with Moldbug, but there doesn't really seem to be much if any evidence of that. Moldbug exchanges tweets with a character known as the Bronze Age Pervert, whose perversion seems to be a fondness for pictures of men who take steroids. The Perv, in turn, claims that he tweets in Bannon's ear, but for all I know, this could be just a sign that Bannon enjoys muscle beach photos too.
 

Richard Stanley

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As you well know Jerry, Unitarians don't believe in the Trinity. Congregationalists are Trinitarians, so reformed Congregationalists becoming unitarian would be a rather extreme 'reform', if true.

My only concern with the Protestants is in reporting the phenomenon, such that others can see what a dramatic coup has already taken place under their nose. This was no mean feat, and thus one should not take it lightly as to the implications going forward. I fear that this will be ignored. More tomorrow.
 

Jerry Russell

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so reformed Congregationalists becoming unitarian would be a rather extreme 'reform', if true.
Historically, in America the earliest Unitarian churches were rebel Congregationalists. Because of the congregational form of governance, individual congregations were able to hire preachers who rejected the divinity of Jesus. The Unitarians even succeeded in capturing Harvard Divinity School in 1805, although it has backpedaled to a more ecumenical status.

Moldbug has just recently re-appeared, now calling himself 'Boldmug'. In the context of supporting Trump's immigration ban, he argues that leftists should feel reassured, because Trump has no real power:

https://gist.github.com/anonymous/7022ee224729569cf91fcdd528f00d3e

do you see the actual organizational structure of Washington, DC as in any way corresponding to the narrative either (a) explained in the literal in the Constitution, (b) matching the narrative you see on CNN, (c) both (a) and (b)?

Because if so, like, wow, man. I mean, if that narrative was true, you should definitely be worried. I mean, if you actually thought the President controlled the executive branch and could make it do whatever he wants. Do you know anything about how DC works?

Basically, under normal circumstances, the President is not in any remote sense in charge of the executive branch of USG, in the way a CEO is in charge of a company. The whole thing is a complete fraud — or at least, has been since FDR died. Not only would DC run perfectly well without a White House at all, it would run better. In fact, that’s pretty much what you elect if you elect a Democrat.

[....]

The President can’t fire civil servants, all of whom belong to the other party. He can’t change budgets. He can’t change org charts. He can appoint people, but the people he appoints can’t do any of these things internally. And they are strictly prohibited from any contact with the personnel records or hiring procedures of the civil servants.

[....]

There’s a trivial way to show that Washington is already a non-democracy. Can we construct a nearly-equivalent Washington, which operates under exactly the same rules, but with elected officials who are purely ceremonial? Well, for one thing, Brussels already works this way. So we know it’s possible.

But let’s make a minimal change to Washington, while eliminating elections entirely. We’ll just eliminate all elected officials. Everything else will be the same.

No new “laws,” or rather, giant collections of vaguely-related patches like a Debian update gone terribly awry. So we don’t need a Congress, or any of the army of lobbyists and activists that attends it. The perfect labor force, they’ll build the best north wall. The Supreme Court can appoint its own new members, like Israel’s. I love Israel. They’re the best. They have the best wall.

As for the Presidency, all the agencies can run perfectly well or even better without any sched Cs. The White House is needed in some cases to resolve actual interagency conflicts. These can be handled by a device readily available for $6.99, the Magic 8-Ball.

All three branches eliminated, no enormous impact on reality or even on DC. Ergo: elected officials are a fraud. Ergo: democracy itself is a fraud. And inherently in today’s real world can’t be anything else.

[....]

You may not believe any of this other stuff, but I really don’t think you should be worrying about Donald Trump at all. I would be super surprised to see any real change in Washington as a result of his administration, and my predictions are often accurate.

Now, it's certainly possible that Moldbug / Boldmug is carrying out a Machiavellian exercise in attempting to mollify the enemy, while he knows that the outflanking operation is being carried out. Or that Trump is a sideshow, while the Catholic takeover of Congress, Trump's cabinet and the intelligence agencies is really where the action is. If the latter, then Moldbug seems to be as clueless as anyone.
 

Richard Stanley

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Now, it's certainly possible that Moldbug / Boldmug is carrying out a Machiavellian exercise in attempting to mollify the enemy, while he knows that the outflanking operation is being carried out. Or that Trump is a sideshow, while the Catholic takeover of Congress, Trump's cabinet and the intelligence agencies is really where the action is. If the latter, then Moldbug seems to be as clueless as anyone.
On a superficial level, I would say that he presents a very good argument for the limitation of Presidential power. After that, however, I would indeed say that he is either clueless or being boldly disingenuous. In any case, look at what the administration is now asserting in usurpation of the Constitution: http://postflaviana.org/community/index.php?posts/7498/

As Joe Scarborough said, they had no reason to talk like this (which Trump Tweeted in support of) as they could merely reissue a Constitutional executive order, they will get their Supreme Court majority, and they'' be able to seat over 100 federal judges.

I wonder if Boldmug thinks this is a problem?

What is interesting is the high numbers of people that think impeachment needs to start, or will be likely needed soon. But will it happen? I say the Deep State will make this action moot, having long already made Boldmug's moot democracy even mooter.
 

Richard Stanley

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Yes, those words can be used in a casuistic (duplicitous) fashion, but if the term 'fact' is being employed regarding the very possibility and not the certainty, then this can be another issue. I occasionally make this kind of argument about the importance of a possibility even being in play.

Is this the case here? I'll have to take the time to review again, but if memory serves me, the wider context, both in the article and in other material, demonstrates that Bannon is indeed linked to all this, if only to provide cover. Combined with his clear duplicity in playing both sides of the populo-nationalist versus globalist dialectic and I would say its even more likely.

And now it appears that the Trump administration is in near full meltdown mode over the Russian contact issue, which is also intimately linked into the underlying sentiments of the white nationalist / race nation strain of Trump's core support. Who knew this would play out so soon? This is a clear psy-op IMHO.
 
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