The Day of the Lord, Revelation & Conjunction Patterns

Richard Stanley

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For a prior instance of nuclear saber rattling, and also in proximity to the Cold War rise of the Kim Dynasty. It also invokes the Virgin Mary (and the Fatima business), and as a result, I checked Stellarium, and it seems that the Sun was in Virgo at the time. So as the Sun was shining in the Vatican windows, apparently so was the Virgin, our Lady of Fatima. I wonder if there is some kind of inside joke, or other cryptic aspect, about the zig-zagging Sun?

The following excerpt is part of the historical background to the Vietnam conflict.

The Knights of Columbus, BTW, are the Catholics' mirrored answer to the Freemasons, even using near identical seating arrangements to the masonic lodges.

The Miraculous Zig-Zagging Sun
Pius XII not only was cognizant of the Boston "preventive atomic war" speech delivered by the Supreme Knight of the Knights of Columbus but he came out in the open to magnify its message in one of the most astounding performances ever staged by any modern Pope. That is, he mobilized the Catholic world to support Catholic Matthews' preventive atomic conflict, indeed to condition hundreds of millions of members of his own Church to accept it as the necessary measure ordained by Heaven itself, so as to further his own long-range political schemes. How did he do it? By staging the greatest fake miracle of the century.

Only three months after his Privy Chamberlain, Mr. Matthews, Secretary of the American Navy, had called on the U.S. to begin the war against Bolshevik Russia, Pope Pius XII was visited at the Vatican by none other than the Virgin Mary herself, in person and with no little commotion. It happened in October of that same year, 1950. Pope Pius XII kept the celestial visitation to himself for a short while. Then disclosed it to a few Vatican inmates, after which, being the skillful strategist that he was, he set in motion his religious machinery with the specific intent of coming to the help of Mr. Matthews' "preventive war" policy.

Pius' objective was a logical one. Once he had made sure that Mr. Matthews' war seeds had sunk well into the minds of political and military leaders, he gave himself the task of implanting them with equal effectiveness in the minds of the Catholic millions, not via politics or propaganda, but directly via religion. To that end, after the Virgin had visited him at the Vatican he ordered that her coming celebrations at Fatima, Portugal, should be the most spectacular ever staged. The papal ordinance was fulfilled to the letter. The following year, in October, 1951, a monster pilgrimage of well over one million people was convened before the shrine.

To mark the exceptional character of the celebration, Pius XII dispatched there his own personal representative, a top cardinal. He charged Cardinal Tedeschini with a most extraordinary task, namely, to disclose to the millions of devotees that the Virgin Mary had visited him, Pope Pius XII.

And so it came to pass that one October day, after the one million throng had sung the Ave Maria, recited the Rosary, and re-sang the Litanies, Cardinal Tedeschini faced the massive crowd, and in a voice filled with emotion, solemnly disclosed to the astounded pilgrims that "another person has seen this same miracle . . . " (namely the miracle of the Virgin Mary appearing to the three children back in 1917, when the sun zig-zagged in the sky.) "He saw it outside Fatima," the cardinal went on to say. "Yes, he saw it years later. He saw it at Rome. The Pope, the same our Pontiff, Pius XII . . . yes he saw it." [1] The cardinal then gave a few relevant details concerning when and how the miracle occurred. "On the afternoon of October 30th, 1950, at 4 p.m., "said the cardinal (that is, three months after Catholic Matthews delivered his preventive atomic war speech), "the Holy Father turned his gaze from the Vatican gardens to the sun, and there . . . was renewed for his eyes the prodigy of the Valley of Fatima." And what was the prodigy? Here are the exact words of the cardinal, sent there specifically by Pope Pius XII himself to disclose the story to the world:

Pope Pius XII was able to witness the life of the sun (author's reminder: a huge burning sphere 866,000 miles in diameter) . . . under the hand of Mary. The sun was agitated, all convulsed, transformed into a picture of life . . . in a spectacle of celestial movements . . . in transmission of mute but eloquent messages to the Vicar of Christ.

This did not occur once, but on three successive days: October 30 and 31 and November 1, 1950.The Catholic press and hierarchies exulted. Catholic theologians, including Jesuits, gave thanks to the Virgin for the privilege. Some of them, nevertheless, commented that Pope Pius XII must have been a greater saint even than they had suspected since, while Catholic tradition was full of visions in the lives of the patriarchs, apostles and martyrs, there were no recorded instances in modern church history of a papal vision having been announced in the lifetime of a Pope.[2]

The one million pilgrims, at the cardinal's disclosure, became delirious. So did countless millions of Catholics throughout the world. If the Virgin Mary had appeared to the Pope, obviously then her promises about Bolshevik Russia being converted to the Catholic Church were about to come true. And how could they be fulfilled if not via the "preventive war" preached by Catholic leaders in the U.S. ...

http://www.reformation.org/chapter5.html
 

Jerry Russell

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The situation is rapidly deteriorating in Korea now. North Korea says that Trump's recent speeches and tweets amount to a declaration of war. I'm not sure about that, but the trade embargo declared by Trump (going past even draconian UN-authorized trade restrictions) could easily be seen not only as an act of war, but also a war crime. The Geneva Convention says it's a war crime to try to deprive the civilian population of basic means for survival.

North Korea says they now have the right to shoot down American bombers flying nearby, even outside North Korean airspace.

Joseph DeThomas, a longtime diplomat and currently a professor at Penn State, says "The lamps are going out in Asia." Comparing the situation to the events leading up to WWI, he says:

...many historians now credit Kaiser Wilhelm II of Germany’s July 2, 1914 telegram to the Austrian government, which gave his ally a so-called blank check to do whatever it wished in the crisis with Serbia, as the fatal step that set the machinery inexorably in motion for the catastrophe of World War I. Trump shares one common and dangerous trait with the Kaiser: both were amateur militarists given to public bluster and adopting an ultra-nationalist bully-boy style of diplomacy, in part to cover up vast weaknesses in their own characters and their lack of understanding of their countries’ true strengths. But neither of these individuals intended to unleash catastrophe. Certainly, the Kaiser would never have sent his blank check if he had known it would result in the fall of his own dynasty, the disappearance of centuries-old empires, the death of millions, and the emergence of Nazism in his country. No doubt, Trump sees himself as a heroic figure standing up to a mad tyrant using rhetoric, economic pressure and, if necessary, military force to break him. He does not see because he does not understand the vast risks he is running for his own citizens, or millions of residents of East Asia.

http://www.38north.org/2017/09/jdethomas092517/

Rick, of course, will take issue with the claim that Trump is unintentionally drifting into the situation. But regardless of intention, the flow of things seems to be set in motion.
 
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Richard Stanley

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This is a similar phenomenon as described by Keith Hunter, only in addressing how the planets' positions correlate to the Sun Spot Cycles. This by affecting the angular momentum of the Sun, apparently stressing its surface and interior.

 

Richard Stanley

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Since the image above is that of woman holding a skull, I'll post the following Sepehr video here. The last half or so is an interesting discussion of Melusine, the source of the story of the Angou noble and his disappearing wife, and eventually of the reptilian shapeshifter meme regarding the English royals.

 

Seeker

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Richard Stanley

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From the Keith Hunter interview, we can see that he is using a similar astrological alignment to determine the canonical 'literary Jesus's' birthday, as I (and others) did using the data from Revelation 12 regarding 9/23/2017. From his just prior discussion about John the Baptist and the mothers, we can see that we have a similar phenomenon occurring with the 'Virgin' Queen Elizabeth and 'Bloody' Mary. All kinds of issues about succession and relative prominence.

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The data that Keith presents demonstrates the high level of knowledge that ancient star watchers, like the Sabians had to have possessed. And, it would be just such a people who would appreciate a device like the Antikythera Mechanism, which allows one to visualize the dynamics of the 2017 alignment, which included baby Jupiter moving around inside of Virgo's belly for 9 months before 'dropping out' in view of the Moon at her feet, and the Sun at her shoulder.
 
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Richard Stanley

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Hunter shows the similar alignments between the date of Sennacherib's army being destroyed after God aids Hezekiah, and the real cosmic events described during the canonic Cruci-fiction. Hunter discusses the numerical system employed and encrypted into the Biblical narratives that allowed such as Velikovsky to derive dates accurately without the use of modern computer programs.

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Let's also remember that, similar to what Hunter discusses, that the planets have been determined to by in sync with the Sun Spot Cycles, likely being the physical cause of such phenomenon, as well as the earthquakes and other aspects that are described in the Bible.

The sacrifice of the Lamb:

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Richard Stanley

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OK, I've finished the Hunter interview.

Almost immediately after I commented above on the cosmic birth and rebirth of Jesus, Keith mentioned his interpretation of Revelation 12, which he had started this thread with.

While I believe that he is generally correct in his inclusion of that 1345 CE date as a minor destructive year of note, it is not what is being described in the account of Rev 12, regarding the birth of Christ. The destruction comes yeats later, as described.

That said, Keith brings up two possible dates in the next few decades to watch that could fit into the current 'drama'.

Near the end, Keith and Derek discuss the geopolitical aspects, but neglect that there is indeed human agency involved -- that can be driven by knowledge of the cosmic script and scripture to do these things. Indeed performing these things at certain dates and times because they belief that doing so increases the chance and scope of their success. 9/11 is perhaps the best example of the need for human agency, i.e. hierarchical groups, engaged in a well planned complex event -- performed for a geopolitical agenda, as was the long planned formation of Israel in 1948. The formation of Israel didn't happen because that day happened, it happened on that day because that was the day needed in the script.

Keith brings up the issue of Donald Trump. Well, "All the world is a stage".
 
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Seeker

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Speaking of the formation of Israel in 1948, I remember reading years ago about a tentative prediction that "this generation", born that year of its founding in 1948, "shall not pass" until the End Times come. Prince Charles, who has been identified by Tim Cohen as the AntiChrist and the Fourth Horseman of the Apocalypse in "The AntiChrist and a Cup of Tea", was born in 1948. Strangely enough, David Ben Gurion, the provisional Prime Minister who made the Israeli Declaration of Independence on May 14, 1948, was formally elected as Prime Minister exactly 9 months later, on Feb. 14, 1949, when his party won the largest number of seats in the Knesset (Israeli legislature), in the first national election held that day. Nine months is also the time period from conception to birth, of course, as the woman "clothed with the sun" was in labor and was attacked, just as Israel was attacked right after its "conception", and the woman fled to the "wilderness". Therefore could Israel be considered geographically in a "wilderness", issuing from the British Mandate, and is Prince Charles the woman's (British Monarchy) "man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron"? Possible parallel meanings here, especially with the birth of "Space Jesus" on Sept. 23, 2017. 1260 days after this "birth" is Mar. 5, 2021. After this Time (1260 days), and Times (double it to 2520 days?), and half a time (630 days of the original time of 1260 days) would take us to Apr. 2, 2033. This date has significance, because one of the proposed dates for the crucifixion of Jesus is Apr. 3, 33 AD, https://www.christianevidence.net/2018/04/evidence-for-jesus-crucifixion-on-april.html , so April 2 would be the eve of 2000 years from a proposed crucifixion date (also April 2 marks the passing of Pope Saint John Paul II "the Great" in 2005). This would put Prince Charles in his 85th year, but look how long his parents are living, not to mention his maternal grandmother, the Queen Mother, living to over 100. Of course, whether the Elite consider any of the above as having any special significance to THEM, could only elicit a "sheepish" response from myself.
 
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Richard Stanley

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Interesting questions.

Being perhaps too fixated on the Jewish War periods, I had been taking a Time and Times and Half a Time as another way to say 3.5 years, but I could very well be wrong. As in it being more explicit about the alternate use of time period terms in Daniel, even a 'day' might not be day.

I had once pondered if Trump is the "man-child", as his personal behavior is even more fitting than Charles's.

I just learned that there was a supernova in Ophiuchus 3 months after Edward De Vere died, and a new star appeared in Cygnus, the Swan, at the same time as well. De Vere's ancestor from the First(?) Crusade became associated with a star (a comet) during a battle around Antioch. Strange stuff.

BTW, recently I remembered that what we really need for all these studies is not a spreadsheet, but rather a so-called 'relational database'.
 

Seeker

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De Vere's ancestor from the First(?) Crusade became associated with a star (a comet) during a battle around Antioch. Strange stuff.
I found that de Vere star story, strange stuff, indeed:
"Aubrey II de Vere went on the First Crusade in 1098, and it was at this point that the star was added to the coat of arms. According to legend, darkness was falling over the battlefield, and it appeared the saracens would be saved. However, a brilliant star appeared on Aubrey de Vere’s banner to illuminate the field. The battle continued, the Crusaders were victorious, and the star became a permanent part of the Arms of de Vere."
 

Seeker

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I just learned that there was a supernova in Ophiuchus 3 months after Edward De Vere died, and a new star appeared in Cygnus, the Swan, at the same time as well.
This statement just opened up an ancient memory cell of mine. According to the late Nicholas de Vere and his de Vere family pedigree charts, I would have de Vere ancestry through the family of Crusader and Jerusalem ruler Godfrey de Bouillon, who had the legendary "SWAN Knight" lineage. Nicholas de Vere apparently thought that Godfrey was a male line descendant of a younger de Vere branch, descended from Rainfroi de Vere of Anjou and Melusine.
 

Richard Stanley

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Does this have to do with why the Crown owns all the swans?

Returning somewhat to Keith Hunter's thesis, the following video discusses the possible solar system origins of viral pandemics, finishing on Venus.

It seems that prior to this pandemic and the prior, the other ones of last century occurred near the solar maximums, while these last two come near the minimums. Is this an indication that the last ones are man-made?


"Oh big-eyed beans from Venus, don't let nothing come between us".

 

Sgt Pepper

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Haven't watched that 1st vid yet, but here's something according to Alexander Chizhevsky (7 February 1897 – 20 December 1964):
Chizhevsky proposed that not only did geomagnetic storms resulting from sunspot-related solar flares affect electrical usage, plane crashes, epidemics and grasshopper infestations, but human mental life and activity. Increased negative ionization in the atmosphere increased human mass excitability. Chizhevsky proposed that human history is influenced by the eleven-year peaks in sunspot activity, triggering humans en masse to act upon existing grievances and complaints through revolts, revolutions, civil wars and wars between nations.[6]
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In 1942, Soviet leader Joseph Stalin became aware of Chizhevsky's research work, including Physical Factors Of The Historical Process, and Chizhevsky was asked to retract his writings on solar cycles, which contradicted Soviet theories of the reasons for the Russian revolutions of 1905 and 1917
 

Seeker

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Hmmm, if I keep adding 11 year cycles of sunspot activity literally from November 7/8 (New Style), 1917, the time of the Bolshevik Revolution, I arrive at the November 8, 2016, Presidential election, which certainly displayed "increased human mass excitability" into the next year, when we have the celestial woman of Revelation 12 "clothed with the sun" on Sept 23, 2017, leading perhaps to the "corona"virus and the "Rapture"(culling of humans) that we are experiencing now?
2020Jeane DixonDixon predicted that Armageddon would take place in 2020. She previously predicted the world would end on February 4, 1962.
2021F. Kenton BeshoreThis American pastor bases his prediction on the prior suggestion that Jesus would return in 1988, i.e., within one biblical generation (40 years) of the founding of Israel in 1948. Beshore argues that the prediction was correct, but that the definition of a biblical generation was incorrect and was actually 70–80 years, placing the second coming of Jesus between 2018 and 2028 and the rapture by 2021 at the latest.
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Jerry Russell

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I was watching Chris Martenson's latest video today. He's had a couple of videos censored this week on You-Tube and he's been put in time-out for a week. So now he's posting new videos on Rumble. The video is mostly about the apocalyptic increase this year in the US money supply, which he says is going to make 2021 a very bad year. "Look at this graph"!

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As Martenson was concluding his prophecy that nothing good will come of this, he happened to mention that this year's winter solstice will feature a unique planetary conjunction.

And sure enough, looking around the Web, I see that the Christian astrology websites have noticed this. Interpreting these sorts of stories was always Richard's specialty, and I'm very much at a loss for perspective. Without further commentary, here's what William Frederick, M. Div, "The End Times Forecaster" is telling his readers:

https://endtimesforecaster.blogspot.com/2020/03/the-great-conjunction-of-2020.html

There is what some are heralding as a great celestial alignment in 2020—a conjunction of Jupiter and Saturn which is called a great conjunction. The great conjunction between Jupiter and Saturn will be in Aquarius and it occurs on 12/20-21/2020, the winter solstice. Some are heralding this as the only great conjunction to ever occur on the winter solstice.
Many are saying that at this alignment things on earth will change in a significant way. Let’s examine the data and what is being said in light of Biblical parameters and see what it yields. [...]
Ok so what do we make of all of this. If we are in the first half of the last 7 years, which is a distinct possibility, then this indeed could be a time of great change. For great changes will take place during the first half of the last 7 years.
During the first half of the last 7 years Seals 1 to 4 will be opened, which include a New World Order takeover, WW3, a worldwide financial collapse, and the death of 25% of the world’s population—1.9 billion. Along with those; alien disclosure and contact will occur, the antichrist will come onto the scene, the great falling way will take place, the abomination of desolation will occur, the temple will be rebuilt, and earthquakes, volcanoes, weather extremes, and storms will increase.
Not to mention the apocalyptic prospects that Donald Trump still hasn't conceded the election, and his Pentagon has just cancelled all transition meetings with the Biden team. As the wsws reports:

...the White House has not dropped its effort to nullify the result of the November 3 election and the ballots of more than 81 million Biden voters. Even if, as seems likely, this coup attempt fails in the short run, the actions of Trump and his military allies make clear that the political crisis will intensify in 2021. Trump plans to mobilize the significant support that exists within the ruling class and the state for dictatorship, together with his fascistic supporters, on the basis of the lie of a stolen election and an illegitimate administration.
 

Seeker

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There is what some are heralding as a great celestial alignment in 2020—a conjunction of Jupiter and Saturn which is called a great conjunction. The great conjunction between Jupiter and Saturn will be in Aquarius and it occurs on 12/20-21/2020, the winter solstice. Some are heralding this as the only great conjunction to ever occur on the winter solstice.
Just my own take on this conjunction, it occurs in the final days of an "apocalyptical" year ending in "0", and heralds in the year "1".

Speaking of Richard (and also the tribulation), wasn't this his favored Presidential candidate? https://trendingpolitics.com/shameful-dem-presidential-candidate-andrew-yang-wants-americans-to-have-barcodes-to-prove-covid-vaccination/?utm_source=tpfb&utm_medium=facebook&fbclid=IwAR1KZ3KV7UXe3G48dXdVwaaJipK7eKg_QjulL3xOKbE5Ez0I
 

Jerry Russell

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Yes, Richard's favorite presidential candidate for 2020 was Andrew Yang. While I was rooting for Tulsi Gabbard, and I would've settled for Bernie.

I was very disappointed when Joe Biden got Yang's endorsement, reneging on his earlier promise to throw his support to Tulsi.
 
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