Biblical Stephen was appointed to administer to the widows, and Roman Stephanus was the steward of Flavia Domitilla, a widow who was banished (and therefore probably became destitute). The Flavian Josephus/Paul, involved with the writing of Acts, probably knew both of these "Stephens".
Perhaps Juvenal is indicating knowledge of the technique of chronological displacement as most of the Roman Provenance theories suggest for the gospels?
As Charles N. Pope has removed some of the information from his "Domain of Man" site, this is only from memory, but I believe that he had an esoteric take on the Decius Mundus/Paulina/Saturninus "triangle". Decius Mundus represented Paul (whom Ellis equates as Josephus), taking Christianity (the bride of Christ, who becomes "Paulina"), away from Jesus (Saturninus, because Jesus is traditionally born around the feast of Saturnalia/Christmas). Clever, eh?
Exactly, which is why I thought that Pope's interpretation would be entirely appropriate for Postflavian consideration. Personally, I do regret that he took so much off of his site, with apparently no explanation, at least none that I have been able to find so far (perhaps the old discussions on file were taking up too much of his website space?). Before I joined this group, I had even contacted him, but he has also removed his contact address now.
Jerry, you are the man! I Thank You, if indeed I am the only one interested in him. https://web.archive.org/web/20190524194838/http://www.domainofman.com/ I could never get his Search Engine to work for me, but somewhere in there on his site, again from my memory, don't quote me on this, but years ago, I do believe he corresponded with Joseph Atwill at one time.
They were indeed Castor and Pollux, who supposedly rode white horses at the Battle of Lake Regillus and announced the victory to Rome: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regillus
Officially, he was apparently named for his mother, Flavia Domitilla Major, as his sister was named Domitilla the Younger, after her, also. Secretly, according to the Charles N. Pope "Domain of Man" site, Domitian and Nero would have been second cousins, in the elite family ruling the world behind the scenes, as great-grandchildren of Julius Caesar (yes, just like "Jesus"), who became the hidden (like the Wizard of Oz) Great King of the World, after his "assassination". Remember the prophecy that only a "King" could conquer Parthia (where Caesar had intended to go), that was "truth in plain sight", applying to Caesar, who actually did go East after he "left" Rome, just as he had said that he would.
The Wikipedia article states that they were fleeing persecution from Rome.
I see another possible connection between these pairs, again according to that Wikipedia article. Crispin and Crispinian were thrown into the river with millstones around their necks (Incidentally, Jesus had a saying about that penalty, concerning those that offended "these little ones"), thus becoming "food for the fish", and father Crispinus was originally a hawker of fish, with the execution of his son Crispinus by Nero on a fishing trip.
They actually served under Aulus Plautius (who became the first Roman Governor of Britain), as Gnaeus Julius Agricola was only 3 years old in the year that Britain was invaded. However, Agricola later supported Vespasian during the Year of the Four Emperors, was given a military command in Britain when Vespasian became Emperor, and, after being made patrician in Rome and appointed Governor of Gallia Aquitania, ultimately was appointed Governor of Britannia by him. He was recalled from Britain by Vespasian's jealous son, Domitian, and rumors circulated that Domitian later poisoned him (Agricola's father had been executed by Emperor Caligula).
If Harris means the 7th century Saint Agricola, Bishop of Avignon (in the province of Gallia Narbonensis, where Gnaeus Julius Agricola had his family estates, being born at Forum Julii, founded by Julius Caesar, and now known as Frejus), then his father was Saint Magnus of Avignon, a Gallo-Roman Senator, Governor of Avignon, and the preceding Bishop there. Saint Magnus is the patron saint of fish dealers and fishmongers!
If that big Promethean fish, that required potters, indeed personified Josephus/Arrius Calpurnius Piso, both Charles N. Pope and Roman Piso have him as the ancestor of members of the Nerva-Antonine dynasty (Pope even has him as Emperor Nerva). "Prometheus" thus "gave shape to" a "new generation" of Roman Emperors, after Domitian was assassinated by some of his "potters" (henchmen associated with Josephus/Arrius Calpurnius Piso). "The form" (name) of some of these succeeding Emperors was "Verus", supposed to be ancient cousins of the de Veres, who used the motto "Vero Nihil Verius" (Nothing Truer than Truth).
Perhaps the "Pisologos"?
Indeed, it looks as though the Vespasian wasp stung and paralyzed the cicada, often confused with the locust (the royal family of Izates).
