The Alchemist of Psychedelics

Richard Stanley

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I watched this funky documentary, Dirty Pictures, about Alexander 'Sasha' Shulgin, the creator of so-called Ecstasy and about 200 hundred other compounds. My purpose for placing this post in this category is due to the claims that the motive, at least, by those interviewed academics inspired by his efforts, are to find means to help people. This, rather than the focus here that all such efforts are counter-generate, whatever 'generate' (or degenerate) means to someone.

It is interesting to note that Shulgin and his wife are the first test bunnies for all his derived compounds, followed by a select group of friends. That doing so has dimmed his mind, I can only wish to be that 'dim' when, and if, I should reach that age.

Another note of interest was the inclusion of a retired head Federal narc who admitted to having been helped by the administration of psychedelics. And he admitted that the war on such drugs was a complete failure. Of course, it has not been a failure to those interests that have profited handsomely by the maintenance of the status quo, e.g. Big Pharma and their dangerous side effects, and Big Penal.

To expand on what I have stated on other threads, I believe that we are looking at is two different aspects of the 'culture' issue with such as psychedelics as one of the common elements. On the one hand are power interests controlling institutions such as the shadow government, and on the converse are those that have purer motives.

As was commented in the video, Shulgin, once an accomplished practicing chemist operates now more in the environment, at least, of an traditional alchemist, via his rustic home laboratory. In the context of some who view the true esoteric role of the alchemists as being the transformation or elevation (or even illumination) of the interior person, i.e. the mind or soul, I thought this appellation even more appropriate.

http://dirtypicturesthefilm.com/
 

Jerry Russell

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This seems to be the complete film here. I'm putting it on my list of things to watch.


Shulgin gets a mention in Joe & Jan's article 'Manufacturing the Deadhead', which points out that Shulgin is a self-admitted member of the Bohemian Grove secret society (which he calls "The Owl Club") and that he worked with the DEA. The Wiki article on Shulgin states that he had a license from the DEA for his drug experiments, held pharmacology classes for DEA agents, and wrote a reference textbook for the DEA. The relationship apparently began in the late 1960's and continued until 1994, when he was fined $25K for violations, and his research license was revoked. After that slap on the wrist, I gather, his research continued with impunity until 2010.

I'm curious if the film mentions any of that?
 
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Richard Stanley

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It doesn't mention the Bohemian Grove, but yes, it mentions his collaboration with the DEA. It is claimed for educating them on such things as safe practices, by them and amateur 'chemists'. This supposedly was how the Fed narc, not the DEA, guy had got involved with Shulgin. There was some footage of him being arrested at his house lab.
 

Jerry Russell

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OK. So after being arrested at his house lab, and having his license revoked, how then does he go on to continue researching psychedelics for another 16 years, and reportedly making new inventions of drugs such as 5-Meo-DALT which is gradually making it on to prohibited drug lists all over the world? Don't his friends at the DEA have any suspicions about what he might be doing?

Seriously, Joe and Jan are very suspicious that these drug gurus don't actually take their own medicine. This would be very hard to prove one way or the other: even eyewitnesses at parties, stoned themselves, might be easily fooled by sober persons pretending to be high. As to negative long term effects of MDMA Ecstasy, Wiki gives the following reference:

Parrott AC (2014). "The potential dangers of using MDMA for psychotherapy". J Psychoactive Drugs46(1): 37–43. doi:10.1080/02791072.2014.873690. PMID24830184. Human Psychopharmacology recently published my review into the increase in empirical knowledge about the human psychobiology of MDMA over the past 25 years (Parrott, 2013a). Deficits have been demonstrated in retrospective memory, prospective memory, higher cognition, complex visual processing, sleep architecture, sleep apnoea, pain, neurohormonal activity, and psychiatric status. Neuroimaging studies have shown serotonergic deficits, which are associated with lifetime Ecstasy/MDMA usage, and degree of neurocognitive impairment. Basic psychological skills remain intact. Ecstasy/MDMA use by pregnant mothers leads to psychomotor impairments in the children. Hence, the damaging effects of Ecstasy/MDMA were far more widespread than was realized a few years ago. ... Rogers et al. (2009) concluded that recreational ecstasy/MDMA is associated with memory deficits, and other reviews have come to similar conclusions. Nulsen et al. (2010) concluded that 'ecstasy users performed worse in all memory domains'. Laws and Kokkalis (2007) concluded that abstinent Ecstasy/MDMA users showed deficits in both short-term and long-term memory, with moderate to large effects sizes. Neither of these latter reviews suggested that the empirical literature they were reviewing was of poor quality (Laws and Kokkalis, 2007; Nulsen et al., 2010).​
 

Richard Stanley

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OK. So after being arrested at his house lab, and having his license revoked, how then does he go on to continue researching psychedelics for another 16 years, and reportedly making new inventions of drugs such as 5-Meo-DALT which is gradually making it on to prohibited drug lists all over the world? Don't his friends at the DEA have any suspicions about what he might be doing?
Good questions. The last is easy, as he passed away in 2014. I should also point out that I mis-stated that he was the creator of Ecstasy, but rather brought attention to it. In the video he lamented its spread into the Rave scene, and that much of what is termed Ecstasy now is not recognizable as such. It might be closer to the pesticide that Shulgin originally made his chemist 'bones' with at Dow Chemical.

The latter point, if true, might go to the claims of these studies as to who knows what these users, abstinent or otherwise, were actually ingesting at the time. But that said, I suspect that true therapeutic usage of similar would not involved uncontrolled and sustained usages.
 
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