The 5G Problem(s)

Jerry Russell

Staff member
A declassified U.S. intelligence report, released early in 2017, said that RT videos on YouTube have averaged 1 million views per day, “the highest among news outlets.”
So, the New York Times is all in a tizzy because RT is getting a million views a day on YouTube, which is more than their own pathetic lying videos? Surprise, surprise.

To that end, the RT network amplifies voices of dissent, to sow discord and widen social divides. It gives the marginal a megaphone and traffics in false equivalence. Earlier campaigns took aim at fracking, vaccination and genetically modified organisms.
RT does indeed amplify American voices of dissent, who are frozen out of the New York Times and other Billionaire Mass Media.

Without the hundreds of dissenting blogs and websites (like, for example, Postflaviana), who would ever suspect that fracking releases dangerous chemicals into groundwater, or that CH4 from fracking could be a major contributor to Global Warming, or that vaccines are probably linked to autism, or that GMO food is an untested science experiment? Certainly the New York Times will never discuss these questions, except to dismiss them with contempt.

Now, it is linking 5G signals to brain cancer, infertility, autism, heart tumors and Alzheimer’s disease — claims that lack scientific support.
RT America taps the ranks of existing anti-cellular activists to wage its 5G campaign. Some have railed for decades against cellphones, power lines and other everyday sources of electromagnetic waves. Much of their work appears not in reputable science journals but little-known reports, publications and self-published tracts, at times with copious notes of dubious significance. They tend to cite each other’s research.
Pall's paper is published in Environmental Research, a peer reviewed journal with an impact factor in the top 10 percentile for its category. Whereas, the New York Times is NOT a scientific journal, NOT peer reviewed, and IMO should not even be considered a reputable source.

Yet even as RT America, the cat’s paw of Russia’s president, Vladimir Putin, has been doing its best to stoke the fears of American viewers, Mr. Putin, on Feb. 20, ordered the launch of Russian 5G networks in a tone evoking optimism rather than doom."
This is only a contradiction if you assume that Putin has editorial control over RT America.

Jerry Russell

Staff member
I had to use TinEye to look up this "stubborn as a mule" meme.

IMDB and Wikipedia agree with the guy in the blue shirt. But maybe the mule knows something they don't? How do we know it was really Kevin Bacon in the film? Maybe it was an audio-animatronic robot, or Donald Trump with heavy makeup.

Jerry Russell

Staff member
Here's an excellent talk by Dr. Devra Davies, talking about how cell phone radiation can cause cancer and infertility. She gets off to a slow start, talking about her own research in 3D modeling of cell phone heating effects in human tissue. But starting at about 24:00 she has a hilarious and frightening discussion of cell phones and infants. At 26:00 she talks about the invention of the "Radar Range" by radar technicians who discovered they could melt chocolate in their pockets while standing in front of the radar. Then she goes into a wide variety of research showing dangerous health effects of cell phone radiation. At 46:00, she talks about cell phone radiation and honeybees. (As an aside, there's a concern that insects might be particularly endangered by 5G millimeter waves, because their bodies and organs are millimeter sized.) At 50:00 she explains that we don't know as much as we should about health effects of microwaves, because since 1994 the telecommunications industry has been "War Gaming" the science.

And here's another concerned grandma, Claire Edwards, with "The Madness of putting 53,000 5G Satellites in Space". This video might also belong in the Elon Musk thread. A lot of very alarming quotations from peer reviewed science here. Prof. Martin Pall, discussed above in this thread, is quoted saying that "5G effects will take months, not years, and he expects a breakdown in mental function, sterility, damaged heart function and societal collapse". Oleg Grigoriev, head of Russian National Committee on Non-Ionizing Radiation, says 5G is "a slow Hiroshima". (T=15:00)

Claire Edwards endorses this website by Arthur Firstenberg:

Despite widespread denial, the evidence that radio frequency (RF) radiation is harmful to life is already overwhelming. The accumulated clinical evidence of sick and injured human beings, experimental evidence of damage to DNA, cells and organ systems in a wide variety of plants and animals, and epidemiological evidence that the major diseases of modern civilization—cancer, heart disease and diabetes—are in large part caused by electromagnetic pollution, forms a literature base of well over 10,000 peer-reviewed studies.
If the telecommunications industry’s plans for 5G come to fruition, no person, no animal, no bird, no insect and no plant on Earth will be able to avoid exposure, 24 hours a day, 365 days a year, to levels of RF radiation that are tens to hundreds of times greater than what exists today, without any possibility of escape anywhere on the planet. These 5G plans threaten to provoke serious, irreversible effects on humans and permanent damage to all of the Earth’s ecosystems.

Jerry Russell

Staff member
Elon Musk's new satellite constellation Internet service will presumably use a 5G NR air interface, but it obviously can't use millimeter wave because of the range issue.
I received a newsletter from Arthur Firstenberg this morning, indicating that this is not true. Wireless World says that millimeter-wave cells are limited to about 300 meters range. Based on that information, I assumed that the satellites would not use these untested, possibly dangerous frequencies.

However, a more sophisticated analysis in the book "Millimeter Wave Communication Systems" By Kao-Cheng Huang and Zhaocheng Wang indicates that propagation loss factors vary tremendously by frequency over the millimeter band (30 to 300 GHz) leaving the door open for some long-range applications. And sure enough, an article at AmericaSpace says that the SpaceX Starlink satellites will initially be operating in the Ka band (26.5-40 GHz) with plans to move up to the V-band from 40-75 GHz.

"The Madness of putting 53,000 5G Satellites in Space"
Firstenberg's newsletter also states that the number of planned satellites is now closer to 100,000. Musk is facing competition from OneWeb with another 47,844 satellites, as well as Jeff Bezos, who has so far only applied for a measly 3,236 satellites for his system.

The newsletter says:

The out-of-control satellite industry is one of the stupidest things humankind has ever created. It treats the life-giving envelope of our atmosphere as if we don’t depend on it. It poses an immediate threat to life on Earth, in so many ways.
The 100,000 planned 5G satellites, each with a designed lifespan of 5 to 10 years, must be constantly de-orbited and replaced. This means that at least 10,000 satellites will have to be launched every year, forever into the future. If an average of 50 satellites can be launched on each rocket, that’s 200 rocket launches per year, just to maintain the satellites used for cell phones and Internet. And it means the de-orbiting of 10,000 worn out satellites per year, burning them up in the atmosphere and turning them into toxic dust and smoke. And that’s not counting the ever-increasing numbers of weather, research, tracking, monitoring, surveillance, military, and other kinds of satellites and missiles being launched in what will soon be a parade of rockets burning prodigious quantities of fossil fuels, punching holes in our atmosphere on a daily basis, and treating the source of all life as Earth’s largest garbage pit.
Martin Ross of the Aerospace Corporation and other researchers have been modeling the effects of daily rocket launches on ozone and global temperatures. Rocket exhaust, depending on the type of fuel used, may contain chlorine and/or oxides of nitrogen, hydrogen, and/or aluminum, all of which destroy ozone. SpaceX’s kerosene-fueled rockets deposit enormous amounts of black soot into the stratosphere, where it accumulates, absorbing solar radiation and warming the stratosphere. The warming of the stratosphere accelerates the chemical reactions that destroy ozone.
Most rockets are launched from the northern hemisphere. And the winter and spring of 2020 saw the largest and longest-lasting Arctic ozone hole in history. Ozone-watchers did not know what caused it, but they were not communicating with the scientists who are studying rocket exhaust. Our world is full of specialists, deaf and blind to other specialties, collectively asleep and marching toward oblivion.
Atmospheric physicists do not study astronomy. Astronomers do not study electricity. Electricians do not study biology. Medical doctors do not study acupuncture. Doctors of oriental medicine do not study atmospheric physics. But the universe is not fragmented, it is a whole, and our culture has forgotten what that is, to its peril and to the peril of everything alive.
All of this, basically, because of Musk and Bezos's colossal and unchecked egos. (OneWeb, formerly known as WorldVu, seems to have been founded by a collaboration involving Musk, Google, and Richard Branson's Virgin Galactic. Now it's been taken over by the UK Government and Bharti (Airtel) following a dramatic bankruptcy.)