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There is an unpublished autobiography of Tesla available for free on the web. It details how Tesla's father became a cleric after having been a military person. This father then tried to make Tesla into a cleric. I see the Bairdic and minstrel training was part of what young Tesla was required to do by his father. The brain is now proven to have about 350,000 connections and many of them atrophy if not properly used or activated early in life. His father was a great spiritual orator and may even have spoken tongues because he often seemed to have a room full of participants according to Tesla as he recalled his father talking to himself. Rhetoric, mime and performance arts as well as languages were central to early education for Kelts in the Bairdic Tradition. There are those today who say Tesla got his knowledge from a book found at Glastonbury in the eleventh century that had only two surviving copies before the First World War. They call this book The Kolbrin but I know it relates to Druidic knowledge that was Christianized or Romanized from the Coelbren. (1) It is possible that Napoleon had this book due to his Hibernian or Merovingian connections and that Tesla's grandfather received it from Napoleon. The reverse is also possible.



I suspect that Napoleon would have sought out the officer in his army who would have demonstrated this knowledge system which Tesla's father indoctrinated his children into. Napoleon himself claimed a Tuscan noble lineage that was unprovable and might have been unprovable due to the Cathar Crusade they supported. David Chandler is a noted military historian from Sandhurst who says he thinks General Marbouef was actually Napoleon's father but that alone does not explain his efforts or interests in Napoleon. We know Napoleon was an ardent admirer of Alexander and they both had 'direct cognition' events in the Great Pyramid. I guess you would have to read a lot of my other books to see what I am saying about this Magian direct cognition of the Bairds or Druids. I think this is one of the sources of Tesla's great ability to see machinery from a near futuristic 'viewing'.

"Although I must trace to my mother's influence whatever inventiveness I possess, the training he gave me must have been helpful. It comprised of all sorts of exercises, as guessing one another's thoughts, discovering the defects of some form of expression, repeating long sentences or performing mental calculations. These daily lessons were intended to strengthen memory and reason and especially to develop the critical sense, and undoubtedly were very beneficial." (2) I will refer to this autobiography frequently throughout this book as I try to show many things about Tesla and myself or his father that are related with my own experiences in life.

Confirmation of my research is all over the work of Tesla. This Guyot in the following quote is a Hibernian like Bernard of Clairvaux. Part of the Cathar treasures has to do with their trade to the Americas and I have tried to provide many proofs of that in other books. The Huguenots brought to America by the prime Merovingian Astor in a later time are also connected to the remains of the Cathars after the bulk of them were wiped out in a Roman Crusade of mania and power. I suspect Tesla's father was related to the Bogomil remnants of the Cathars and their Luciferian or Alumbrados Jesuit lineage. He was a Serbian-Orthodox priest of great renown and the teaching techniques he used with Tesla and his brother are the techniques of the Bairds or Bards who were called Troubadors in Southern France during the Cathar era.



1)http://www.yowusa.com/Public/1Q04/kb...b_public01.htm
2)http://www.mcnabb.com/music/tesla/bio.pdf
I say the reason Napoleon "blanched" when he was inside the King's Chamber of the Great Pyramid relates to Time Viewing, and maybe even Time Travel (see my book Chichen Itza: Time).

Even now we have researchers saying faster-than-light speeds are not contemplated by Einstein's Theory of Relativity. This nonsense exists despite CERN proving neutrinos do it; and NEC labs at Princeton showing 300X light speed in a cesium chamber in the early part of the last decade; and optical bending of light in Italy showing 1.25X light speed in the early part of the previous decade; and action-at-a-distance being known for many millennia; etc.. It all reminds me of why Einstein had to tell his publisher that Bucky was one of ONLY seven people on Earth who understood his theory.

It is beyond comprehension for most people to imagine! I mean - how stupid do some people have to be? Is the hiring process for university types really tilted against thinking to this extent? No wonder Gödel is called a Mystic and Bucky had to quit school even when they pleaded with him to let them push him along towards their sheepskins.

"In 1895, while conducting research with his step-up transformer, Nikola Tesla had his first indications that time and space could be influenced by using highly charged, rotating magnetic fields. Part of this revelation came about from Tesla’s experimentation with radio frequencies and the transmission of electrical energy through the atmosphere. Tesla’s simple discovery would, years later, lead to the infamous Philadelphia Experiment and the Montauk time travel projects. But even before these highly top-secret military programs came about, Tesla made some fascinating discoveries on the nature of time and the real possibilities of time travel.

With these experiments in high-voltage electricity and magnetic fields, Tesla discovered that time and space could be breached, or warped, creating a "doorway" that could lead to other time frames. But with this monumental discovery, Tesla also discovered, through personal experience, the very real dangers inherent with time travel.

Tesla’s first brush with time travel came in March 1895. A reporter for the New York Herald wrote on March 13 that he came across the inventor in a small café, looking shaken after being hit by 3.5 million volts,


"I am afraid," said Tesla, "that you won’t find me a pleasant companion tonight. The fact is I was almost killed today. The spark jumped three feet through the air and struck me here on the right shoulder. If my assistant had not turned off the current instantly in might have been the end of me."

Tesla, on contact with the resonating electromagnetic charge, found himself outside his time-frame reference. He reported that he could see the immediate past, present and future, all at once. But he was paralyzed within the electromagnetic field, unable to help himself. His assistant, by turning off the current, released Tesla before any permanent damage was done. A repeat of this very incident would occur years later during the Philadelphia Experiment. Unfortunately, the sailors involved were left outside their time-frame reference for too long with disastrous results.

Tesla’s secret time travel experiments would continue on in the hands of others who were not as concerned with humanity as Tesla."

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ci...metravel11.htm
 

Jerry Russell

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Robert,

How much do you know about the technical basis (if any) for claims of a Tesla-developed time travel technology? Tesla's report of the March 1895 event could possibly be explained as a psychological phenomenon rather than an actual time travel experience, considering the very limited detail provided.

Following the linked story at bibliotecapleyades reveals a lost thread of investigation, and a great deal of skepticism: for example,

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/montauk/esp_montauk_9.htm

Those of you who have a technical background in either physics or electronics will of course be keenly interested in the fine details of the TECHNOLOGY supposedly used to create the Philadelphia Experiment and the Montauk Project. I am an electronics technician in the process of trying to collect every bit of info I can in order to piece this thing together and determine once and for all whether these stories could possibly be true or not. My ASCII file TECH-1, recently uploaded to several BBS’s, was an attempt to get some serious thinking going by someone smarter than myself and smart enough to be able to seriously challenge Bielek and Nichols on the technical points. As long as we are nothing more than listeners of finely-spun anecdotes, we will be wafted along by every story that comes along.

We must start thinking about the SCIENCE behind this, and we must call the storytellers to account for their stories. If they’re going to charge $10 a pop for us to attend their lectures then we get to ask for the technical details, don’t we? If they’re reluctant to tell us the technical details, then what’s the point in “breaking their silence” to tell us what went on in a classified project 40 years ago? Can any one of us, their hearers, do anything about it? No-- all we can do is line their pockets with greenbacks by attending their lectures. If they are under the altruistic “need” or compulsion to “blow the whistle” and tell the world about the secret gov’t. experiments in time travel, teleportation, etc, then I maintain that we have the right to demand some technical details. What else do we have to go on?
Also see:

http://www.bielek-debunked.com
 
Here is a lengthy thread on Time Travel.

http://forum.world-mysteries.com/threads/1247-Time-Travel

I took pictures of a Stela behind the Pelota at Chichen Itza which a friend (Masters in Archaeology) showed to Al Bielek. He said the 88 intersecting points in a design on it (there were many things I knew - this was not one of them) were part of his machine. She saw it, and believed it would do Time Travel but she could not convince me it was not time viewing - only. No interviewer I ever heard talk with Al asked any question I would have asked. Recent Jesse Ventura shows convince me Stuart Swerdlow and Nichols were onto something important but Jesse just kept nonsensical commentary about physical travel. I covered The Montauk Project book and even Ong's Hat which went further. My book is more about things I experienced and which I know are scientifically valid - such as FTL and Quantum info transfer, as well as alternate reality or dimensional affects. I think Bielek was a fraud and Preston Nichols was part of a money-making scheme.

I will put some stuff here on Father Ernetti's Chronovisor developed with input from Fermi and Von Braun too. If there is interest in these potentials I have another way to go at it. Free Energy and Brain/Spirit Enhancing Machines is the thread I recently began. I think I linked the thread here already.

In other places throughout threads here I have dealt with the Pentagon Dodecahedron secret(s). The Vimanas don't seem so fantastic once you put all of these things together.

I cannot say I understand math to the extent that I can weigh in on formulations such as Cathie and Fuller have put before us. But just as Cathie said was true I can verify the US has and continues to finish building Omega Stations on the Earth Energy Grid. Tesla is another great man with all manner of applications of the Grid who said all his work is based on Harmonics or the Logos which can be studied in the Bible if you know the code. That would support Cathie's contention about the Grid power being used for ancient flying machines.

"Bruce Leonard Cathie (11 February 1930 – 2 June 2013) was a New Zealand airline pilot who wrote seven books related to flying saucers and a "World energy grid".

His central thesis was that the laws of mathematics describe a grid-like pattern on Earth that powers flying saucers and controls the dates and places where nuclear bombs can function.[citation needed] He claimed to have successfully predicted[citation needed] the detonation time of an early French nuclear test using his harmonic "mathematics", which is based around trigonometry and geophysical latitude/longitude coordinates.

Cathie claimed that he first saw a flying saucer over the Manukau Harbour, Auckland in 1952 and in discussions with other airline pilots discovered this was not uncommon.[1]

His first book Harmonic 33, was published in New Zealand in 1968[2] and reprinted in the United Kingdom by Sphere Books in 1980.[3]

New Zealand millennial author Barry Smith claimed to have received his information on restrictions on nuclear weapons from Cathie.

An interview with him was played in the fourth episode of the fourth series of the US television program In Search of....

His second revised relativity equation called "Harmonic Equation 2"; (2c+sqrt(1/(2c))*(2c)² or (4*sqrt(2)]/[(1/c)*5/2) scientifically, seems to somewhat converge with Buckminster Fuller's Synergetics formula 2nf²+2 but there is certainly a divergence in the formulas and more work is needed on it."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Cathie

Along with Bucky saying there are two perfect tetrahedral in the Great Pyramid we know he used forms such as these in developing his varied theories and designs like the geodesic dome.

And you might ask why it is when so many great physics people have said the ancients knew things we are only now discovering that such ideas are thrown on the dungheap while Alien Intervention theories are trotted out as 'possible'. Could it be some people have been keeping secrets for 5,000 years and more?

"It has been suggested that the regular icosahedron, not being found in nature, is the first example of a geometrical object that is the free creation of human thought. Regardless of the truth of this, it is interesting to try to track down the origin of the icosahedron. A scholium in Book XIII of Euclid's "Elements" speaks of "the five so-called Platonic figures which, however, do not belong to Plato, three of the five being due to the Pythagoreans, namely the cube, the pyramid, and the dodecahedron, while the octahedron and the icosahedron are due to Theaetetus." More recently, Atiyah and Sutcliffe have claimed that a regular icosahedron appears among a collection of stone balls in the Ashmolean Museum - balls that were unearthed in Scotland and may date back to 2000 BC. However, Lieven le Bruyn has argued that these authors are the victims of a hoax. We examine the evidence with a critical eye."

http://www.math.ucr.edu/home/baez/icosahedron/
 
Here is some stuff on Father Ernetti.

And there will be many ‘experts’ who say that light speed is still not transcendable or that time is linear and it is not possible to do many things that I posit in these pages, I know. I offer up this site to these people and say that the whole truth of what Black Ops and other agents of real knowledge pursue is not under the control of NASA or The Smithsonian and other public or relatively transparent structure of academia and government. Here is a site worth looking into that discusses some of the things that many have known for a long time. It does not include the Catholic scholar/physicist who reportedly has developed a chronovisor in conjunction with Werner von Braun and Fermi’s inputs that would be similar to one thing the Philosopher’s Stone could achieve ([http://www.lerc.nasa.gov/WWW/bpp/TM-107289.htm]). I checked this link to find it is out of service or not working. A lot of stuff related to Time Travel has gone the way of the Dodo Bird - maybe someone doesn't want what is going on to become competitive. I should check into StealthSkater's compendium which included my work.

“Father Pellegrino Maria Ernetti (1925-1994) was a Benedictine priest, scientist, and world-class authority on "archaic" music (pre-Christian to 10th century A.D.). He claimed to have yoked quantum physics to the occult arts to construct a time-machine-- the chronovisor. Father Ernetti said he had traveled to Rome in 169 B.C. to witness a performance of the now-lost tragedy, Thyestes, by the father of Latin poetry, Quintus Ennius. He claimed to have used the chronovisor to watch Christ dying on the cross. Why would so distinguished a churchman have felt the need to confabulate such a story? Is the Vatican suppressing the full truth of Father Ernetti’s life and achievements?” (1)


It is correct to say there are many impressions of what the Philosopher's Stone is or what the 'Great Work' of The Philosopher's might truly be. There probably have been some that are considered alchemists who have misled the general public about it at various times due to the Inquisitions just as was true with another of the quests of the alchemist. I refer in this instance to the homonunclus or artificial man (Can rise to the level of a Golem perhaps.) that was made by Thomas Aquinas and his mentor and one-time bishop Frater Albertus Magnus. They were almost as Divinely Inspired as Constantine in their answer to the agents of the heresy trial they were about to face.

Personally I would give Constantine the Peabody Award for Marketing as he (A Mithras worshipper who was made divine by his children at the point of his death in the pagan custom of Roman Empire-builders, who also had many of their relatives killed in horrific ways at that juncture.) co-opted the teaching of Christ. It is my opinion that Christ was an alchemist as were his ancestors including Solomon, and Melchizedek. The intrigues are many to say the least. Today most people still think there is truth in the lie that alchemists were hermits seeking to make lead into gold and yet that was the desire of entirely materialistic medieval kings and nobles. Alchemists like myself do have to live the hermit existence if they (like me) are unwilling to sell out, but many of them are within the bowels of the hegemony. The Divine Kings encouraged many fakirs to lay claim to having the ability to do things they could not do, sometimes in order to scare others and sometimes to make money.


Aquinas and Frater Albertus (greatly admired by one of the Illuminati founders - Goethe) said that their homonunclus was 'the talking-head of Jesus'. Now what might that really have been that they made? I suggest they were in the process of making a Stone and had a way to foretell certain events that the likes of Edward Kelley did. He too is said to have had a Stone and England's arguably greatest scholar (and spy) John Dee believed Kelley. But I think Aquinas and Magnus had the same thing Kelley had - a scryring stone or skull. Such skulls as are found in Mexico have a many millennia artifactual relationship in ancestor-worship throughout the ages and all cultures have had some kind of shamanistic people who attuned through them. Spheres can be useful as well, energy follows forms and mathematical designs within. https://thetruthbehindthescenes.word...e-of-atlantis/ I also think Albertus later developed a Philosopher's Stone; if only because his namesake has one today. I don't think any members of the Skull and Bones have developed much more than a scryring dish for blood.

I know that this is not a full answer and there is no way I can give a real and full answer in a few pages. The lies of those hiding the knowledge are equaled by the lies of those seeking or fearing the knowledge. I went to see if there were other reports on Father Ernetti and was surprised to find Wikipedia had a summary saying the chronovisor was a fraud and upon reading it I saw the official was saying Father Ernetti was coerced into his recantation. In other words he stood by his work but was forced to say he did not. Sounds like another Galileo situation. Remember when you read any naysayers that almost all the top researchers know time travel actually happens at a sub-atomic level. And yes, it won't be what the movies show and might require a sentient robot at best.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pellegrino_Ernetti
The scientist/journalists don't even appear to read their own consensus. Here we see Einstein properly interpreted, although he was continuing and changing his perspective every day. His co-workers Gödel and Fuller were younger and continued learning.

"What is time? While most people think of time as a constant, physicist Albert Einstein showed that time is an illusion; it is relative — it can vary for different observers depending on your speed through space. To Einstein, time is the "fourth dimension." Space is described as a three-dimensional arena, which provides a traveler with coordinates — such as length, width and height —showing location. Time provides another coordinate — direction — although conventionally, it only moves forward. (Conversely, a new theory asserts that time is "real.")"

http://www.space.com/21675-time-travel.html

I found StealthSkater's use of an article I have posted here on Tom Cruise and ET. There are other things of mine that he used and it seems someone else has taken over his effort and all things he had are now behind pdf protocols which my laptop is not set up for easy access to: and I am no computer genius. He adds a lot of credibility to what I say by referencing and inserting commentary.

[DOC]PX_05.doc - StealthSkater



www.stealthskater.com/Documents/PX_05.doc
The nature of what you will now read seems to read differently than I recall. The whole thing might be under surveillance as the host is implying. It still remains as one of the most intriguing insights into UFOs, Orgone, ET, Time travel, Montauk and many related things. [DOC]Blog.doc - StealthSkater



www.stealthskater.com/Blog.doc
Jul 23, 2010 - a Physical Review of Bob Lazar's claims by Edward Halerewicz, Jr. ...... Wormhole-Magnetic Fields (which are present as space-time layers) are ...... archived at http://www.stealthskater.com/PX.htm#Baird (actual document is .




by Robert Bruce Baird. I had probably heard about 'the Hangar' on Wright-Patterson AFB where President Nixon was refused entry even before I arrived in ...

Maybe someone can open the file on the Ark to see if someone is contriving a new UFO cult.

http://www.greenbein.com/oracles-at-...er-361696.html
Higgs boson find makes time travel “feasible” | Technology ...



http://www.technologybloggers.org/.....ime-travel-fea...

Apr 1, 2013 - Ground-breaking research has emerged this morning, as scientists from the LHC released verified data that proves the existence (and therefore ...

I agree with this.
http://www.bielek-debunked.com/
 

Jerry Russell

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Some evidence that Father Ernetti's chronovisor is a hoax may be found at this link:

http://www.unmuseum.org/chronovisor.htm

The "technobloggers" link about the Higgs Boson and time travel, is an admitted April Fool's Day joke.

Cathie's work seems to be very little discussed these days, aside from the quoted Wiki article.

I can verify the US has and continues to finish building Omega Stations on the Earth Energy Grid
On what basis can you personally verify these "Omega Stations", Robert?
 
Yes, I think I covered how Ernetti was induced to fess up and how some said it was under duress. I had a received message that was a Frontispiece to a paper on Time Travel waiting on my girlfriend's turned off computer (not in an e-mail file) when we returned from Mexico. Before I went there I already had Paracelsus's formula for a Philosopher's Stone. It does time viewing - so I don't need to have proof of that - but if I did I would quote Jung and others who have seen the future and alternative possibilities.

And that particular April Fool's joke is as much a joke on those who accept it as a fiction. Me, I always said physical time travel had assemblage or attention point issues so robots will be our time travelers if at all. But dimensional travel is very real and I went to Chichen Itza knowing I would find something central to it after reading all of Castaneda's books to that point (1993 If I recall). The manager of the Villas Archaeologique witnessed my questions of him and my certainty about finding something not in the Tour. Later he came to the table we were eating at while my girlfriend was chewing me out for being so psychically invasive and acting weird. Then I put my finger to my lips and said ssshhh. She went ballistic and I said he is right behind you. He wanted to talk with me when I was through eating and made it clear she was not welcome. I should do that to you. He was most impressed by what I had done and that I had found exactly what I was looking for. He broke code and secrets by showing me his Inner Sanctum course work for a French Rosicrucian gfroup much more real than AMORC or the Rosy and Golden Cross boobs.

I am after all named after Robert the Bruce who I am related to, and he founded the Societas Rosicruciana en Anglia. It is known as the Soc Ros and I think it was a reformed Templar inner sanctum because they fought alongside him after you say De Molay was the non-victim of the slow-roasting which caused his head to explode after some six hours. You guys are quite a trip!

For decades I talked about faster than Light realities due to action-at-a-distance experiences I have had. In 1999 my skeptic brother informed me about the NEC labs proving it in a cesium chamber at their Princeton location (near Godel and so on). He had to eat shit soi disant and so it was two years ago when various reports from Cern addressed these things. CERN employees before the Higgs Particles were proven supported my debates on Physics sites. So did a person named Laurent from Gaithersburg, Maryland. Godel and faster than light travel was a large part of why it was thought impossible. But just this year we have NASA (by mistake or co-incidence) discovering a time-space bubble propulsion system - also you will find people saying this is impossible. The magazine Scientific American was still saying the Wright Brothers flights at Kitty Hawk were a hoax three years after they happened. So funny being grilled this way by someone promoting massive fictions like JFK and Julius Caesar were not assassinated etc..

Look up Alcubierre warp drive, and you will find future time travel is considered real - on a physical basis.

Omega Stations - you want me to provide "personal" experience to "verify" them? Get down off your meds and be real, that is the kind of nonsense I would expect from a fundie. Anyway I happen to have a little. In my US travels I had occasion about 20 years ago to hear a New Mexico Senator (I think Richardson) talking about wanting answers for the Taos Hum on the radio while driving through New Mexico.

http://forum.world-mysteries.com/threads/1200-Pine-Gap-Omega-Stations-Tesla-Tech
 
Here is a lengthy thread on Time Travel.

http://forum.world-mysteries.com/threads/1247-Time-Travel

I took pictures of a Stela behind the Pelota at Chichen Itza which a friend (Masters in Archaeology) showed to Al Bielek. He said the 88 intersecting points in a design on it (there were many things I knew - this was not one of them) were part of his machine. She saw it, and believed it would do Time Travel but she could not convince me it was not time viewing - only. No interviewer I ever heard talk with Al asked any question I would have asked. Recent Jesse Ventura shows convince me Stuart Swerdlow and Nichols were onto something important but Jesse just kept nonsensical commentary about physical travel. I covered The Montauk Project book and even Ong's Hat which went further. My book is more about things I experienced and which I know are scientifically valid - such as FTL and Quantum info transfer, as well as alternate reality or dimensional affects. I think Bielek was a fraud and Preston Nichols was part of a money-making scheme.

I will put some stuff here on Father Ernetti's Chronovisor developed with input from Fermi and Von Braun too. If there is interest in these potentials I have another way to go at it. Free Energy and Brain/Spirit Enhancing Machines is the thread I recently began. I think I linked the thread here already.

In other places throughout threads here I have dealt with the Pentagon Dodecahedron secret(s). The Vimanas don't seem so fantastic once you put all of these things together.

I cannot say I understand math to the extent that I can weigh in on formulations such as Cathie and Fuller have put before us. But just as Cathie said was true I can verify the US has and continues to finish building Omega Stations on the Earth Energy Grid. Tesla is another great man with all manner of applications of the Grid who said all his work is based on Harmonics or the Logos which can be studied in the Bible if you know the code. That would support Cathie's contention about the Grid power being used for ancient flying machines.

"Bruce Leonard Cathie (11 February 1930 – 2 June 2013) was a New Zealand airline pilot who wrote seven books related to flying saucers and a "World energy grid".

His central thesis was that the laws of mathematics describe a grid-like pattern on Earth that powers flying saucers and controls the dates and places where nuclear bombs can function.[citation needed] He claimed to have successfully predicted[citation needed] the detonation time of an early French nuclear test using his harmonic "mathematics", which is based around trigonometry and geophysical latitude/longitude coordinates.

Cathie claimed that he first saw a flying saucer over the Manukau Harbour, Auckland in 1952 and in discussions with other airline pilots discovered this was not uncommon.[1]

His first book Harmonic 33, was published in New Zealand in 1968[2] and reprinted in the United Kingdom by Sphere Books in 1980.[3]

New Zealand millennial author Barry Smith claimed to have received his information on restrictions on nuclear weapons from Cathie.

An interview with him was played in the fourth episode of the fourth series of the US television program In Search of....

His second revised relativity equation called "Harmonic Equation 2"; (2c+sqrt(1/(2c))*(2c)² or (4*sqrt(2)]/[(1/c)*5/2) scientifically, seems to somewhat converge with Buckminster Fuller's Synergetics formula 2nf²+2 but there is certainly a divergence in the formulas and more work is needed on it."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Cathie

Along with Bucky saying there are two perfect tetrahedral in the Great Pyramid we know he used forms such as these in developing his varied theories and designs like the geodesic dome.

And you might ask why it is when so many great physics people have said the ancients knew things we are only now discovering that such ideas are thrown on the dungheap while Alien Intervention theories are trotted out as 'possible'. Could it be some people have been keeping secrets for 5,000 years and more?

"It has been suggested that the regular icosahedron, not being found in nature, is the first example of a geometrical object that is the free creation of human thought. Regardless of the truth of this, it is interesting to try to track down the origin of the icosahedron. A scholium in Book XIII of Euclid's "Elements" speaks of "the five so-called Platonic figures which, however, do not belong to Plato, three of the five being due to the Pythagoreans, namely the cube, the pyramid, and the dodecahedron, while the octahedron and the icosahedron are due to Theaetetus." More recently, Atiyah and Sutcliffe have claimed that a regular icosahedron appears among a collection of stone balls in the Ashmolean Museum - balls that were unearthed in Scotland and may date back to 2000 BC. However, Lieven le Bruyn has argued that these authors are the victims of a hoax. We examine the evidence with a critical eye."

http://www.math.ucr.edu/home/baez/icosahedron/
Isn't Ongs Hat a literary/historical folk hoax or at best an Intel operation? All the Moorish Scuence Temple connections to that one seem a little suspect considering David Livingstone's work in connecting them to Masonry and other much older occult doctrinal forces. Also the one main guy who promotes that has always been promoted as a media hoaxer ( I forget his name right now), unless he found this story and just passed it on but I have no grammar on that. Just curious about your thoughts on Ongs Hat.

I remember also Peter Lamborn Wilsons other alias coming up in some of the Ong literature, which is a screaming red flag that it's Intel related. If it is at s related in substance to Mintauk as I understood it was, then there is a whole other level of misdirection with that if you are aware of any of the key pop culture related purveyors of Montauk mythos like the 'eye witnesses' and some of their promotors from fifteen years ago like Richard Metzger and the Disinfo crew, who are pretty good about hiding things in plain sight for all to miss (like the origin of their enterprises benefactors and their name).
 

Jerry Russell

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Staff member
Craig,

Your analysis of Ong's Hat looks right to me.

Baird does seem to be rather gullible or credulous about some things, and might be an interesting topic of further investigation himself.
 
Craig,

Your analysis of Ong's Hat looks right to me.

Baird does seem to be rather gullible or credulous about some things, and might be an interesting topic of further investigation himself.
Thanks Jerry. I wasn't aware of the history and course I've nothing against the poster himself, don't really know him just commenting on a few things ( this is a reply to a couple responses you get to me today concerning Mr. Baird's posts) . That last qualification was for Mr. Baird's purposes since I was just getting around to reading some of his entries and didn't understand a few things. Not sure if he still reads forum posts on here but if he does just know I meant well. I know what it feels like to try to put out a lot of information sometimes, have it not necessarily be composed or formatted or as relevant as I would like it to be , and the related frustration that goes along with that.
 
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