Sitting on a cornflake; Decoding typology.

lorenhough

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Yes, Edgar's killing of Oswald is typology depicting of the restoration of the real messianic bloodline. Lear is pretty complicated so perhaps I should post the whole analysis. The important thing for Walrus is that 4.5 describes another Apocalypse - notice Lear's command early in the scene "kill, kill, kill, kill, kill, kill".
Staying on Theme;

The final catalyst of the song occurred when Lennon's friend and former fellow member of the Quarrymen= [craftsman mason?] Peter Shotton, visited and Lennon asked Shotton about a playground nursery rhyme they sang as children. Shotton remembered:

"Yellow matter custard, green slop pie,
All mixed together with a dead dog's eye,
Slap it on a butty, ten foot thick,
Then wash it all down with a cup of cold sick."

Lennon borrowed a couple of words, added the three unfinished ideas and the result was "I Am the Walrus".

Sgt. Pepper was the first major pop/rock LP to include its complete lyrics, which appeared on the back cover.

The Guardian labelled the film that 'I am the Walrus is in. "a kind of fantasy morality play about the grossness and warmth and stupidity of the audience.

Christianity will go," Lennon had said. "It will vanish and shrink. I needn't argue about that; I'm right and I will be proved right. We're more popular than Jesus now; I don't know which will go first, rock 'n' roll or Christianity. Jesus was alright but his disciples were thick and ordinary. It's them twisting it that ruins it for me.

BEATLES CONCERT; John, George, Paul and Ringo at the Prince of Wales Theatre in the presence of HM The Queen Mother as she rattled her Jewry.


ROME NEVER FORGETS!
Aw she puts her hand$ in his singing; He (they) got the whole world in his hands! Who comes to who bring presents, wearing servants black or black pin and purse will fit the bill for the new Jesuit Pope
THE MAN FROM KANSAS Dwight D. Eisenhower 5 star Gen and Pres.
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Who hand is in who's ?
Watch this video on the pecking order; OF THE GOD FATHERS; in black and white
white lies black lies; there all on the same checker [Master son of a Mason] board! as Jesus father was a mason known as a carpenter. LH

The official papal title Pontifex Maximus, meaning "the Bridge-Builder" on the floor in St. Peter's basilica in the Vatican. This title originates from Babylon. When Medo-Persia took over Babylon, they took over the religious rites and ceremonies of Babylon. Some of the Babylonian priests in Pergamum set up their religious system under the title Pontifex Maximus. The title, along with all the vestments and powers, were then passed on to pagan Roman emperors, and was eventually taken by the Bishop of Rome. Notice also the triple crown associated with the Babylonian system; the fleur-de-lis, which represents the union of male and female; the split tail, which represents the fish god Dagon; and the winged lion, which is the Bible's symbol for Babylon. Copyright Amazing Discoveries. http://amazingdiscoveries.org/albums/p/40/Basilica-Floor-Pontifex-Maximus.jpg

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Richard Stanley

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Rick

I'll have to listen to the other songs. What do you think about Lennon's last song "I Found Out"
Notice he is resisting people calling my "brother, brother , brother". Is he refering to the Masons?

Joe
Very interesting, I wasn't familiar with it. It seems, to me, that the lyrics are designed to be plausibly deniable as referring just to the typical religious door knockers, who frequently call themselves 'brother' and 'sister', like the Witnesses and the Mormons for example (who have Masonic origins). But on a deeper level it seems he is more likely referring to the real players, such as the people that were the Beatles' handlers. Of course, I have a different take than many on the scope and multi-compartmentalized nature of Masonry.

This seems telling (thx Loren):
I heard something bout my ma and my pa
They didn't want me so they made me a star
I, I found out
I, I found out​

Note that the two 'theys' don't need to be referring to the same people. This all seems consistent with your conclusion that John had indeed had a change of heart about his participation, and making deals with the Devil.

And speaking of Loren's 'too much land in one hand', I wonder what happened with his 400 houses?
 

Sgt Pepper

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From Wikipedia:
[…] in his 1970 solo song "God", admits "I was the walrus, but now I'm John."
About the song "God":
There are three sections in the song:

In the first section, John Lennon describes God as "a concept by which we measure our pain".

In the second, Lennon lists many idols that he does not believe in, ending by stating that he just believes in himself (individuality) and Yoko (his wife). The idols he lists are: Magic, I Ching, Bible, Tarot, Hitler, Jesus, Kennedy (which he also sang as "Kennedys", referring to both John F. Kennedy and Robert F. Kennedy), Buddha, Mantra, Gita, Yoga, Kings, Elvis, Zimmerman (Bob Dylan) and Beatles.

The final section describes Lennon's change since the break-up of The Beatles. He states that he is no longer the "Dreamweaver" or "The Walrus", but just "John". The final line of the song, "The dream is over" represents Lennon's stance that the myth "the Beatles were God" had come to an end. "If there is a God," Lennon explained, "we're all it."[1]
 

Richard Stanley

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Nice follow-up.

"If there is a God," Lennon explained, "we're all it."

In that regard, I recently came across this, The God Dialogues, by Will Thomas. The beginning dialogue is a little tedious, as it is rather more of a monologue, and I knew most all of the religious criticism material there, but then the 'inquisitor' opens up into a dialogue covering theology, philosophy, cosmology, and physics. It comes to the same conclusion as Lennon, and this is my feeling as well.

But religion teaches us that we are all dirtbags that need to pay our ten percent secular surcharge for an empty guarantee to an eternal right to sing songs of praise 24/7 to the creator of the universe that apparently did so just to garner endless praise from us otherwise dirtbags.
 

lorenhough

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Nice follow-up.

"If there is a God," Lennon explained, "we're all it."

In that regard, I recently came across this, The God Dialogues, by Will Thomas. The beginning dialogue is a little tedious, as it is rather more of a monologue, and I knew most all of the religious criticism material there, but then the 'inquisitor' opens up into a dialogue covering theology, philosophy, cosmology, and physics. It comes to the same conclusion as Lennon, and this is my feeling as well.

But religion teaches us that we are all dirtbags that need to pay our ten percent secular surcharge for an empty guarantee to an eternal right to sing songs of praise 24/7 to the creator of the universe that apparently did so just to garner endless praise from us otherwise dirtbags.
Hi Richard




Thomas Pain says best it for me, The Age of Reason (1793–94), in which he advocated deism, promoted reason and free thought, and THE POSTFLAVINA IS THE AGE OF REASON.

Deism (/ˈdiː.ɪzəm/[1][2] or /ˈdeɪ.ɪzəm/, derived from the Latin word deus meaning "god") combines a rejection of religious knowledge as a source of authority with the conclusion that reason and observation of the natural world are sufficient to determine the existence of a single creator of the universe.

I believe in one God, and no more; and I hope for happiness beyond this life.
I believe in the equality of man; and I believe that religious duties consist in doing justice, loving mercy, and endeavouring to make our fellow-creatures happy.

But, lest it should be supposed that I believe many other things in addition to these, I shall, in the progress of this work, declare the things I do not believe, and my reasons for not believing them.{as John said}

I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish Church, by the Roman Church, by the Greek Church, by the Turkish Church, by the Protestant Church, nor by any church that I know of.

My own mind is my own church.

All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit.

I do not mean by this declaration to condemn those who believe otherwise; they have the same right to their belief as I have to mine. But it is necessary to the happiness of man that he be mentally faithful to himself. Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe.

Paine advocates reason in the place of revelation. It is revelation to the first person only, and hearsay to every other; and consequently, they are not obliged to believe it. Leading him to reject miracles and to view the Bible as "an ordinary piece of literature rather than as a divinely inspired text". Paine promotes natural religion and argues for the existence of a creator-God.

May I recommend to this; to better understand Paine's thoughts!

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Loren
 
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lorenhough

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Very interesting, I wasn't familiar with it. It seems, to me, that the lyrics are designed to be plausibly deniable as referring just to the typical religious door knockers, who frequently call themselves 'brother' and 'sister', like the Witnesses and the Mormons for example (who have Masonic origins). But on a deeper level it seems he is more likely referring to the real players, such as the people that were the Beatles' handlers. Of course, I have a different take than many on the scope and multi-compartmentalized nature of Masonry.

This seems telling (thx Loren):
I heard something bout my ma and my pa
They didn't want me so they made me a star
I, I found out
I, I found out​

Note that the two 'theys' don't need to be referring to the same people. This all seems consistent with your conclusion that John had indeed had a change of heart about his participation, and making deals with the Devil.

And speaking of Loren's 'too much land in one hand', I wonder what happened with his 400 houses?
Hi Joe and Rich

Don't get you nowhere, don't make you a man [Reminds me of the song where john sings, nowhere man please listen]

I heard something bout my ma and my pa
They didn't want me so they made me a star
I, I found out
I, I found out

Johns father was often away from home but sent regular pay cheques to 9 where Lennon lived with his mother,[3] but the cheques stopped when he went absent without leave in February 1944.[4][5] When he eventually came home six months later, he offered to look after the family, but Julia—by then pregnant with another man's child—rejected the idea.[6] After her sister, Mimi Smith, twice complained to Liverpool's Social Services, Julia handed the care of Lennon over to her. In July 1946 Lennon's father visited Smith and took his son to Blackpool, secretly intending to emigrate to New Zealand with him.[7] Julia followed them—with her partner at the time, 'Bobby' Dykins—and after a heated argument his father forced the five-year-old to choose between them. Lennon twice chose his father, but as his mother walked away, he began to cry and followed her.[8] It would be 20 years before he had contact with his father again.[9]

Throughout the rest of his childhood and adolescence he lived with his aunt and uncle, Mimi and George Smith, who had no children of their own, at Mendips, 251 Menlove Avenue, Woolton.[10] Julia visited Mendips on a regular basis, and when John was 11 years old he often visited her at 1 Blomfield Road, Liverpool, where she played him Elvis Presley records, taught him the banjo, and showed him how to play "Ain't That a Shame" by Fats Domino. Wiki.

Perhaps John found out that "they" his controllers and above, had picked him and made him a star, because they knew that as a child "they" ma and pa's rejection, had done to him. Because 0f that John would be more likely to go along with the craftsmanship, without empathy.

They were wrong. As they found out! 'Nobody controls me. I'm uncontrollable. The only one who controls me is me, and that's just barely possible,' as John said.

We must always remember to thank the CIA and the Army for LSD. That's what people forget. Everything is the opposite of what it is, isn't it, Harry?

[I've seen religion from Jesus to Paul
Don't let them fool you with dope and cocaine ] Most drugs that the big boys give you; only makes you a fool, Johns seems to be saying.

This warning seems real. see pig etc. on car


this is the shorter version of the song by john the craftsman.
John Lennon's Psychedelic Rolls-Royce and George Harrison's Psychedelic MINI Cooper S (1967)

Loren.
 
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Richard Stanley

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Hi Loren,

Maybe I am wrong in interpreting what you just said, but it seems to me that it is more a matter of definitions. As such, why should you feel sorry that I am a 'god' (a part of this entity rather), and also as is the chair that I am sitting on? Actually, just kidding, I believe you are the same 'god', and even Collectivist too. Though the term 'god' is a rather poor construct knowing where it evolved from though.

Deism is not a religion, so much as a belief system, one where morality has to come from within, because its 'god' was only concerned with condensing matter from the Void and not with what came after. Morality here is only optional, and as such evolves just like everything else. By religion I merely mean man-made constructs meant by a few mis-wired psychopaths and misguided sociopaths to soak the rest of us by making us believe that their external (to us) false god is mandatory and necessary, when in reality we always had everything we needed. Man-made religion puts us in a Bad Cage that creates all kinds of perceptional problems

The purpose for my including the link for The God Dialogues was to show Thomas' elaboration on what, IMHO, might be seen as an intellectual expansion on Deism. In this light, you and I are the collectivist (pun intended) cosmic brain all learning about itself, in fits and starts.

Richard
 

Joe

New Member
Forgive me if this is old news, I ran across this post a while back.

[Philosopher Theodor Adorno wrote the Beatles Songs. The real truth.
Date: January 19, 2013 18:52

Dear beatles fans, Sadly the truth emerges.

Theodor Adorno must be your idol from now on. He pulled the strings.

In the picture Adorno, Horkheimer, Habermas and others after one of their conspirational meetings. Further information regarding The Man




Theodor W. Adorno (Tavistock Institute) was the brains behind the 'Beatles' as he held the rights to the music and eventually his estate sold those rights to Michael Jackson.
Adorno a classical musician wrote their music and it was all filtered down through Paul who could not read a note of music by the way. In fact the only half way real musician in the band was George Harrison. John was a poet who could strum a few chords and Ringo a hack drummer at best. George often wondered why they never wanted to use his songs. Oh and as an aside, Paul ended up being Knighted, and you don't get Knighted unless you have done as you were told and made your masters proud.
The Beatles were introduced to the public as a means to spread youth culture which led to the spreading of the 'New Age' culture and this was all geared to setting up a nihilistic culture that is all to present today. It's called divide and conquer but this gets into a whole different 'Pandora's Box' if you will. Things are not what they seem.]

Theodor W. Adorno ( born Theodor Ludwig Wiesengrund; September 11, 1903 – August 6, 1969)
Maybe that explains why The Beatles broke up when they did. Adorno died in 69. Also I believe Ringo played a Ludwig drum set, wonder how popular Lugwig drums were in England at that time."
Then I came across this video by composer Howard Goodall, after watching it the first time I thought Goodall is inadvertently letting the cat out of the bag.
There is noway four kids from the streets could possess that kind of musical knowledge, after all entertaining groupies is full time work. But after listening to
your podcast with Jan, I now wonder if he is trying to talk to those who understand.
The Beatles - a musical appreciation and analysis - by composer, Howard Goodall CBE
 

lorenhough

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You are right, in above video there are not just talking to the 'who' are in on it; but bragging, also.

But, 'Who' owned the Beatles publishing rights?

Not Adorno.

But Northern Songs; a limited company founded in 1963. Northern Songs passed into the control of ATV, Then M.Jackson bought them and later merged his published catalogue with Sony Corporation of America's to form Sony/ATV Music Publishing.

In the above video of the Beatles at 13:23 min. in talks about 'I am the Walrus' with white baby grand, where? A airplane runway, just like where the filming of walrus was Yes flow the money! The 'Who' that owns the songs is very telling. At 39:59 min. it show the Beatles recording studio with Mosaic black and white checkerboard floor. (x-checker, etc.)


Adorno published the essays "Night Music", "On Twelve-Tone Technique" that creates confusion in the listener. That he used 16 cords in the song I am the Walrus, it may be different style but it still created confusion in the listener; is a finger print.

Loren

As Adorno believed that sociology needs to be self-reflective and self-critical, he also believed that the language the sociologist uses, like the language of the ordinary person, is a political construct in large measure that uses, often unreflectingly, concepts installed by dominant classes and social structures, such as our notion of "deviance" which includes both genuinely deviant individual and "hustlers" operating below social norms because they lack the capital to operate above.

Adorno was chiefly influenced by Max Weber's critique of disenchantment, Georg Lukács's Hegelian interpretation of Marxism, as well as Walter Benjamin's philosophy of history. Adorno, along with the other major Frankfurt School theorists Max Horkheimer and Herbert Marcuse, argued that advanced capitalism had managed to contain or liquidate the forces that would bring about its collapse and that the revolutionary moment, when it would have been possible to transform it into socialism, had passed. As he put it at the beginning of his Negative Dialectics (1966), philosophy is still necessary because the time to realise it was missed. Adorno argued that capitalism had become more entrenched through its attack on the objective basis of revolutionary consciousness and through liquidation of the individualism that had been the basis of critical consciousness.

One example of Adorno's methods can be found in Paul Lazarsfeld, the American sociologist for whom Adorno worked in the late 1930s after fleeing Hitler. As Rolf Wiggershaus recounts in The Frankfurt School, Its History, Theories and Political Significance (MIT 1995), Lazarsfeld was the director of a project, funded and inspired by David Sarnoff (the head of RCA), to discover both the sort of music that listeners of radio liked and ways to improve their "taste", so that RCA could profitably air more classical music.

Adorno's work sets out from a central insight he shares with all early 20th century avant-garde art: The recognition of what is primitive in ourselves and the world itself. Neither Picasso's fascination with African sculpture nor Mondrian's reduction of painting to its most elementary component—the line—is comprehensible outside this concern with primitivism Adorno shared with the century's most radical art. At that time, the Western world, beset by world-wars, colonialist consolidation and accelerating commodification, sank into the very barbarism civilization had prided itself in overcoming. According to Adorno, society's self-preservation had become indistinguishable from societally sanctioned self-sacrifice: of "primitive" peoples, primitive aspects of the ego and those primitive, mimetic desires found in imitation and sympathy. Adorno's theory proceeds from an understanding of this primitive quality of reality which seeks to counteract whatever aims to either repress this primitive aspect or further those systems of domination set in place by this return to barbarism. From this perspective, Adorno's writings on politics, philosophy, music and literature could be described as a lifelong critique of the ways in which each tries to justify self-mutilation as the necessary price of self-preservation. According to Adorno's translator Robert Hullot-Kentor, the central motive of Adorno's work thus consists in determining "how life could be more than the struggle for self-preservation".[45] In this sense, the principle of self-preservation, Adorno writes in Negative Dialectics, is nothing but "the law of doom thus far obeyed by history."[46] At its most basic, Adorno's thought is motivated by a fundamental critique of this law.

They do this by individualising products to give the illusion to consumers that they are in fact purchasing a product or service that was specifically designed for them. Adorno highlights the issues created with the construction of popular music, where different samples of music used in the creation of today's chart-topping songs are put together in order to create, re-create, and modify numerous tracks by using the same variety of samples from one song to another. He makes a distinction between "Apologetic music" and "Critical music". Apologetic music is defined as the highly produced and promoted music of the "pop music" industry: music that is composed of variable parts and interchanged to create several different songs. "The social and psychological functions of popular music [are that it] acts like a social cement (Adorno, 1990) "to keep people obedient and subservient to the status quo of existing power structures." (Laughey:2007:125)

Wiki
 
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Interesting that RCA had as its logo an animal staring at a gramaphone with the words "His Master's Voice". Of note is the fact that Elvis Presley had the words and image as a belt buckle that he wore while performing.

They have a real sense of humor don't they?

J
 

lorenhough

Well-Known Member
Hi Joe

bROTHER maybe Laughing brother, but he is not Joking!




I found out.

So now we find out;

Interview with Dr John Coleman, who wrote "The Committee of 300" and is about Tavistock and the Beatles and Philosopher Theodor Adorno, and how he help create the new group.

Coleman says That the girls that meet them at Kennedy airport and at the Ed Sullivan show where paid to show up and scream and cry; which always seemed not real, also 'the Beatles name my have came from a beetle in Egypt' {that rolls dung in to a ball as it rolls it across the ground and buries it; in Egypt, like the sun.} or beat nics Loren

 
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Brother has many means, the new age greeting and the 1984 big brother, etc.

I told you before stay away from my door
Don't give me that brother, brother, brother, brother
The freaks on the phone won't leave me alone
So don't give me that brother, brother, brother, bROTHER

Interview with Dr John Coleman, who wrote "The Committee of 300" and is about Tavistock and the Beatles.

 
Tavistock also created the Grateful Dead:

"What united the original Provincetown bohemians, playwrights and painters both, was the idea "that Art was the great universal refreshment." Curiously, for such dissimilar folk, this is what united the founders of the Grateful Dead. "What we were interested in was art," recalls Alan Trist, who was nineteen when he was his father, Eric Trist, a Visiting Fellow at Stanford who founded the Tavistock Institute in London, arrived in Palo Alto in 1960. "It was the business of being an artist that totally captured Jerry and Hunter," he states, pointing out to me, when we meet at the bagel shop near the Dead's office in San Rafael..."
pg. 79
https://books.google.com/books?id=SRqkcty3lB4C&pg=PA79&dq="Alan+Trist"+"grateful+dead"+Tavistock&hl=en&sa=X&ei=xK6YVNOTHcjwoATJr4H4BA&ved=0CB8Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q="Alan Trist" "grateful dead" Tavistock&f=false

A Long Strage Trip: Inside the History of the Grateful Dead by Dennis McNally

"One consequence of American Beauty was the return of Alan Trist, Garcia and Hunter's buddy from Palo Alto. When he'd left California, he'd attended Cambridge, eventually marrying Robert Hunter's friend from the same Palo Alto circle., Christie Bourne. Through the sixties, Christie maintained a close friendship with both men, which kept the connection alive. After the Hollywood Festival show in 1970, Alan had gotten together with Hunter and McIntire, and eventually Jon had offered him the job of running Ice Nine, the Dead's music publishing firm. Alan faced an interesting quandary. He was then working with the Tavistock Institute, which studied social change, and now he had the opportunity to live it." pg. 383
https://books.google.com/books?id=sWCRWJnTTF8C&pg=PA383&dq="Alan+Trist"+"grateful+dead"+Tavistock&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Jq6YVIfgC8XioATDwIHQAg&ved=0CCUQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q="Alan Trist" "grateful dead" Tavistock&f=false
[2/2/15, 4:33:49 PM] Jan Irvin: https://webbrain.com/brainpage/brain/6FBA86B0-0C57-9FCA-5CF9-D742DA541AAA#-6928
 

Tyrone McCloskey

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Linguists/authors trolling somewhere in the bowels of British intelligence have been playing with language and its carriers from the Elizabethan age forward- The plays of Shakes the Clown are a prime example of mass induction rituals modifying behavior to suit the powers that be- With the crown at war with the Papacy, the use of a Jewish perspective to negate Christian presumption makes sense-
Another wordsmith whom I’ve suspected worked on language modification was James Joyce- An MI6 spook named John Quinn bankrolled Ezra Pound and Pound was Joyce’s biggest champion- I’ve often wondered how Joyce could spend the last 17 years of his life writing an unreadable novel, Finnegans Wake, without a day job-
The same is suspected of JD Salinger whom we know worked in counter intelligence during and after WWII-
I’d also put semiotician/novelist Umberto Eco on the suspects list- In his satiric novel of high conspiracy, Foucault’s Pendulum, one of the characters realizes that the grand conspiracy has used the “Jewish Conspiracy” as a smoke screen- Always accuse your enemies of what you yourself are actually doing, is the mantra of the book and sounds like a confession, just for the hell of it-
As for the Beatles, the template is Frank Sinatra- When the mob brought a scrawny saloon singer from Hoboken onto the big stage, girls posing as bobbysoxers were paid to scream for Frankie’s attention as the cameras rolled- The footage played in newsreels across the nation and teenage girls, who are very imitative of each other, now had a protocol for engaging the Sinatra persona- The boys, not wanting to be ignored, had no choice but to adopt the Sinatra pose- A decade and a half later, the Beatles project repeated the process verbatim-
And now the punch line: Frank’s then wife, Mia Farrow, was slumming with the Fab Four in India around the time of I Am The Walrus was in circulation- The recording of the song ends in a dissolution of sounds, capped by Shakespeare’s King Lear- By 1968, all hell had broken loose and along with the political bloodbath comes Rosemary’s Baby, with pregnant Mia Farrow vexed by a satanic sex cult, with Roman Polanski in the director’s chair- (Frank actually phoned Mia to tell her the marriage was over just before Mia shot a scene of Rosemary having a breakdown- He’s got a comedian’s timing) The public was now prepped, just like the bobbysoxers, for the Manson charade (likely with Polanski again in the director’s chair)- Thanks to Manson et al. and just like the end of I Am The Walrus, the sixties, and the youth culture with so much promise that came with it, dissolved in a cacophony of meaningless sound and fury…
(In Hindu cosmology- “Pralaya”: During each pralaya, the lower ten realms (loka) are destroyed,[1] while the higher four realms, including Satya-loka, Tapa-loka, Jana-loka, and Mahar-loka are preserved.)
 

lorenhough

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Old hare Krishna got nothing on you.......................You think your greater then God and john knows there not!

Just keep you crazy with nothing to do....................warning they want to make sure you are bored. and crazy, like most schools.

Keep you occupied with pie in the sky.............................with .LSD, drugs, nothings is real, love is all you need! sports bread and circuses.

There ain't no Guru who can see through your eyes..................only john can see through them, because only he knows who and what there up to!


I, I found out
I, I found out.......................what ever it is John is very upset about to sing in the way he does.

So now we find out, John didn't write the songs, making him a life time actor. Now we know what John new but could not tell us but through typology.

 
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Tyrone McCloskey

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I suppose listening to the Beatles now is as bad as smoking- The one question I have left about the sixties is this: Was anyone really killed? Even the Kennedys? How broad and deep are/were the scams?
(Full disclosure: I once dated a woman name Elena Flaviani- No lie!)
 

lorenhough

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I suppose listening to the Beatles now is as bad as smoking- The one question I have left about the sixties is this: Was anyone really killed? Even the Kennedys? How broad and deep are/were the scams?
(Full disclosure: I once dated a woman name Elena Flaviani- No lie!)
The same day the news reported the Beatles were coming to Kennedy airport for the 1st. time every to usa, was the same day JFK DIED. They blow his mind out in a car.



Walter Cronkite describing the wound to the FRONT President Kennedy’s neck, declared as an entrance wound which exited his back; sampled from Evidence of Revision: JFK Assassination Rarities


(1m-4m) President Lyndon B. Johnson casting doubt on the veracity of the Warren Commission Report, speaking with World Federalist Walter Cronkite, who worked for Prescott Bush’s people at CBS.

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(0m-1m) Judge Jim Garrison on the Tonight Show with Johnny Carson
(1m-4m) President Lyndon B. Johnson casting doubt on the veracity of the Warren Commission Report, speaking with World Federalist Walter Cronkite, who worked for Prescott Bush’s people at CBS.
(4m-5m) Walter Cronkite describing the wound to the FRONT President Kennedy’s neck, declared as an entrance wound which exited his back; sampled from Evidence of Revision: JFK Assassination Rarities
(5m-7m) Robert F. Kennedy and RFK Jr. Disagree with Warren Commission
(7m-10m) The Latest News: RFK Jr. Skeptical of “Lone Gunman”
(10m-14m) Meet Lee Harvey Oswald, Sheep-Dipped Patsy by James Corbett, Episode 287
(14m-20m) sample clip from Judge Jim Garrison vs. Johnny Carson, January 31, 1968
(20m-22m) sample clip from JFK Assassination Debate with Mark Lane vs. Warren Commission Supporters/Participants, December 4, 1964
(22m-29m) sample clip from Forgotten Evidence: JFK Conspiracy, linking Nixon, Hoover, LBJ, and Mac Wallace to a meeting the night before the Assassination in Dallas
(29m-33m) sample clip from JFK Assassination Debate with Mark Lane vs. Warren Commission Supporters/Participants, December 4, 1964
(24m-28m) sample clip from Forgotten Evidence: JFK Conspiracy
(33m-37m) sample clip from JFK Assassination Debate with Mark Lane vs. Warren Commission Supporters/Participants, December 4, 1964
(37m-42m) sample clip from Forgotten Evidence: JFK Conspiracy
(42m-43m) Judge Jim Garrison closing speech from Forgotten Evidence
(43m-1h45m) Richard’s Introductory Monologue
Self-Reliance playlist 1:
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLmmQ8peduhsrOl8vuu6830CR8aGvCExQE
Self-Reliance playlist 2 (Advanced Autonomy):
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLmmQ8peduhsruJFARVfkY50nHyLHrl14L
The Origins of the word “Redneck”: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redneck
Graphical Grammar of a Leghold Trap: http://visual.merriam-webster.com/sports-games/outdoor-leisure/hunting/leghold-trap.php
J. Edgar Hoover in the 1956 Elks Magazine, primary source for quotation on the monstrous conspiracy.
CIA Document 1035-960: COUNTERING CRITICISM OF THE WARREN REPORT
Documents relating to disposition of JFK casket
JFK Casket Buried at Sea: Map of Disposition of the Casket
Order to Destroy JFK’s Casket by Attorney General Katzenbach
Why JFK’s Assassination Still Haunts America by Tim Kelly
JFK versus CIA by Tim Kelly

(1h45m-4h35m) T&H Casual Café: JFK 50th Anniversary / A Cold Case Investigation (become a T&H Advanced Access member to see the video version of this discussion)
(4h35m-6h35m) Forgotten Evidence: JFK Conspiracy
(6h35-7h) Evidence of Revision: JFK Assassination Rarities (not part of “Evidence of Revision” series)
(7h-8h) Project Censored: JFK 50 interview with Mark Lane
(8h-9h30m) The JFK Assassination: The Jim Garrison Tapes 1992
(9h30m-12h5m) JFK Assassination Debate with Mark Lane, December 4, 1964
(12h5m-12h50m) Jim Garrison vs. Johnny Carson, January 31, 1968
(12h50m-14h20m) “Rush to Judgment” by Mark Lane, 1967
(14h20m-19h38m) L. Fletcher Prouty: The Secret Team / JFK Assassination


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Peace Revolution episode 023: How to Free Your Mind / The Occulted (Hidden) Keys of Wisdom
Peace Revolution episode 046: Liberty is Life / Practical Applications of Rationality
Peace Revolution episode 047: Slavery is Death / Practical Applications
 
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lorenhough

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Rick
What do you think about Lennon's last song "I Found Out"
Notice he is resisting people calling my "brother, brother , brother". Is he refering to the Masons?
Joe
"brother, brother , brother". Is he refering to the Masons?

They have a real sense of humor don't they?

Hi Joe

bROTHER maybe Laughing brother, but he is not Joking or our brother's brother brother

Brother has many means, the new age greeting , for hippies or hipeyes, and freaks, and the 1984 big brother, and secret fraternity menbers, so called family etc.

I told you before stay away from my door
Don't give me that brother, brother, brother, brother
The freaks on the phone won't leave me alone
So don't give me that brother, brother, brother, bROTHER

bROTHER=big brother by choosing to capitalize just ROTHER but putting them down by not captlising the first letter b. Or Big Sister as John said.

They pick people with the names they like, there look etc for the boy band. John-bible [Winston 1984] Lennon-marx. Whats the odds? They had to change Ringos name. They can make anyone a star!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Found_Out
The musicians who performed on the original recording were as follows:[1]
John Winston; found out he was Winston in 1984 ! Assignation's can happen for many reason, like someone says to much or could say. Or it could also be to, just make them a martyr, planed form the start, or if need? Or all of the above and more etc. etc.


From the m0vie 1984;2 columns, check, checkerboard, check, IBM I-beam, the all seeing eye, check, john Winston the word Smith 'wasting time going crazy' PLAYING CHESS, by himself, winning and Losing.

Digressing to walrus; [waiting on the van to come]........at the end of film the eggmen etc. figuratively all on board as the the yellow Val=Van is coming to take them away. 1964 Bedford VAL coach.
A built VAL70 with Duple Viceroy in England.

Expert textpert choking smokers
Don't you think the joker laughs at you? (Ha ha ha! He he he! Ha ha ha!).......At the end of Magical Mystery Tour film; the Joker King Lear's Court fooling Jester midget admires his work as he watches walking following and taking pictures of the show, as king Lear says kill kill kill kill kill!
After recording Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band, Paul McCartney wanted to create a film based upon the Beatles and their music. The film was to be unscripted: various "ordinary" people were to travel on a 1964 Bedford VAL coach and have unspecified "magical" adventures. The Magical Mystery Tour film was made and included six new Beatles songs. The film originally screened on BBC-TV over the 1967 Christmas 'messianic' masonic bloodline, Secret holidays.

The album was nominated for a Grammy Award for Album of the Year in 1968 and reached number 1 in the US for eight weeks. The original review by Rolling Stone consisted of a one-sentence quote from;

John Lennon: "There are only about 100 People in the World who Understand our music."

follow the 'rock'stars? I am finding out. Loren
 
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lorenhough

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Who Gave us the Beatles and why?

Pruned "dead heads", or just "grateful(there)dead? Which Master do they serve?

Yes, Edgar's Pruning of the Kennedy family - Ozwald maybe typology depicting of the restoration of the real 'messianic' masonic bloodline. King (kill killl) Lear, Shake-speare’s Secret Mess.
You is the fool who the wise man beggar Pope or king? Whether poor or rich, all's the same in Death.

In this Catholic Church, the god Anubis, the Phoenix, and the skull and crossbones symbols are all part of the decor.
S&B bones

Pope Paul VI - wearing the Judaic "Cohen Breastplate," and the yarmulke. . The chief Jesuit is referred to as "The General" a term Akhenaton used for himself. The skull cap, that is also worn by Jewish rabbis, was originally worn by the sun priests of Egypt. http://www.irishoriginsofcivilization.com/irishoriginsexcerpts/book2_chap41.html

“Those who will not use their own brain they are nothing more than meat on the table and beasts of burden by choice and consent.” Albert Pike (1809-1891) who taunt himself 16 language's, was the pope of free masonry.
This is were his bones are aginst his wishes;
The House of the Temple

House of the Temple in Washington, D.C.

Address 1733 16th St NW

Construction started October 18, 1911
Completed October 18, 1915

Client Scottish Rite of Freemasonry

The House of the Temple

The full name of the Supreme Council is "The Supreme Council (Mother Council of the World) of the Inspectors General Knights Commander of the House of the Temple of Solomon of the Thirty-third degree of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry of the Southern Jurisdiction of the United States of America."

Freemasonry, as it exists in various forms all over the world, has a membership estimated by the United Grand Lodge of England at around six million worldwide. The fraternity is administratively organised into independent Grand Lodges (or sometimes Grand Orients), each of which governs its own Masonic jurisdiction, which consists of subordinate (or constituent) Lodges. The largest single jurisdiction, in terms of membership, is the United Grand Lodge of England (with a membership estimated at around a quarter million). The Grand Lodge of Scotland and Grand Lodge of Ireland (taken together) have approximately 150,000 members.
In the United States total membership is just under two million.

After the American Revolution, U.S. Grand Lodges formed themselves within each state. Some thought was given to organising an overarching "Grand Lodge of the United States," with George Washington (who was a member of a Virgin-ian lodge) as the first Grand Master, but the idea was short-lived, as the people were not ready for a open world federation run by 12 wise men that Ben Franklin spoke of.

Stained Glass Window in The White House Chapel Washington;
"One Nation Under God" Notice George Washington on bended knee before the Great Seal'

Also Ben said he hoped USA would be the begging of the world federation. 12 men 12 stars on the EU (means one in France) on the blue flag following the stars that rule over all of you.

Geneva Conventions establishing laws dealing with humanitarian relief during wartime, and the international Hague Conventions of 1899 and 1907 governing rules of war and the peaceful settlement of international disputes, then came ww1.

The League held its first council meeting in Paris on 16 January 1920, six days after the Versailles Treaty and the Covenant of the League of Nations came into force. On 1 November 1920, the headquarters of the League was moved from London to Geneva, the only country in the EU that its public can own guns including machine guns, where the first General Assembly was held on 15 November 1920
I remember visiting the palace and looking down on to this view in 1976.

The Palace of Nations (French: Palais des Nations) in Geneva, Switzerland, was built
between 1929 and 1936 to serve as the headquarters of the League of Nations. It has served as the home of the United Nations Office at Geneva since 1946 when the Secretary-General (military) word of the United Nations signed a Headquarters Agreement with the Swiss authorities, guards for the pope, although Switzerland did not become a member of the UN until 2002.

In 2012 alone, the Palace of Nations hosted more than 10,000 intergovernmental meetings

Peace Revolution episode 082: The British Elephant in the American Living Room / The Empire Always Listens, and Never Forgets

Peace Revolution episode 084: Builders of Empire / How Fraternal Orders Create World Order

Podcast: Play in new window | Download (Duration: 10:37:59 — 584.5MB)

Reference Map to Episode 84
(0m-2m) Enter the secret world of the Freemasons courtesy of CBS Morning News
(2m-5m) Sample 1 Cecil John Rhodes’s conquest, David Livingston’s mission and the British Empire — Jeremy Paxman

Shakes-spear Loren
 
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