Shakespeare's Typology & Oligarchy

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Lightning hits Vatican after pope resigns (video)
February 12, 2013, by Matt Knight, edited by loren hough

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Lightning hits Vatican after pope resigns (video) why do I feel this is not a natural strike? LH
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Hi Loren
The insignia seems to represent the same thing that the song I am the Walrus does. That is a a focus on the Book of Revelation and the coming Apocalypse.
Who are these people?
Joe
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The House of Stuart is a European royal house. Founded by Robert II, the House of Stuart—also spelled Stewart in Scottish contexts—first became monarchs of the Kingdom of Scotland during the late 14th century before inheriting the kingdoms of England (including Wales) and Kingdom of Ireland in the 17th century. The dynasty's patrilineal Breton ancestors had held the office of High Steward of Scotland since the 12th century, after arriving by way of Norman England. In 1707, Queen Anne became the first monarch of the United Kingdom of Great Britain. The family also maintained the traditional English claims to the Kingdom of France.

In total, nine Stuart monarchs ruled Scotland from 1371 until 1603. James VI then inherited the realms of Elizabeth Tudor, becoming James I of England and of Ireland in the Union of the Crowns.

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King James devised new coats of arms, a uniform coinage and the like. The creation of a national flag proved contentious, designs acceptable to one side typically offending the other. James finally proclaimed the new Union Flag on 12 April 1606: Scots who saw in it a St. George's Cross superimposed upon a St. Andrew's Saltire sought to create their own 'Scotch' design which saw the reverse superimposition take place. (This design was used in Scotland until 1707.) For years afterwards vessels of the two nations continued to fly their respective "flags", the royal proclamation notwithstanding. The Union Flag only entered into common use under Cromwell's Protectorate.
In all, four Stuart kings ruled the British Isles, with an interregnum of Parliamentary rule lasting from 1649 to 1660 as a result of the English Civil War. Following the Glorious Revolution in 1688, two Stuart queens ruled the isles: Mary II (along with her husband William of Orange) and Anne. Both were the daughters of James II; because of their family's Catholic ties, under the terms of the 1701 Act of Settlement and the 1704 Act of Security, they were not succeeded by closer kin but by George of Hanover, a descendant of a daughter of James I.

During the reign of the Stuarts, Scotland developed from a relatively poor and feudal country into a prosperous, modern and centralised state.[clarification needed] They ruled during a time in European history of transition from the Middle Ages, through the Renaissance, to the midpoint of the Early modern period. Monarchs such as James IV were known for sponsoring exponents of the Northern Renaissance such as the poet Robert Henryson, and others. After the Stuarts gained control of all of Great Britain, the arts and sciences continued to develop; many of William Shakespeare's best known plays were authored during the Jacobean era, while institutions such as the Royal Society and Royal Mail were established during the reign of Charles II.
 
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Symbols of the union
and Royal Mail were established during the reign of Charles II.
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1686 guinea showing the company's logo, an elephant and castle, under bust of James II;

The Royal African Company was a mercantile company set up by the Stuart family and London merchants to trade along the west coast of Africa. It was led by James, Duke of York, Charles II's brother. Its original purpose was to exploit the gold fields up the Gambia River identified by Prince Rupert during the Interregnum, and it was set up once Charles II gained the English throne in the Restoration of 1660. However, it was soon engaged in the slave trade as well as with other commodities.


In the 1680s the Company was transporting about 5,000 slaves a year across the Atlantic. Many were branded with the letters 'DY', for its Governor, the Duke of York, who succeeded his brother on the throne in 1685, becoming King James II. Other slaves were branded with the company's initials, RAC, on their chests.
Between 1672 and 1689 the Company transported around 90,000–100,000 slaves. Its profits made a major contribution to the increase in the financial power of those who controlled the City of London.
The Company continued purchasing and transporting slaves until 1731, when it abandoned slaving in favour of ivory and gold dust. Charles Hayes (1678–1760), mathematician and chronologer, was sub-governor of Royal African Company until 1752, when it was dissolved. Its successor was the African Company of Merchants.
The Royal African Company's logo depicted an elephant and castle.
From 1668 to 1722 the Royal African Company provided gold to the English Mint. Coins made with such gold bear an elephant below the bust of the king and/or queen. This gold also gave the coinage its name—the guinea.[12]

The Company continued purchasing and transporting slaves until 1731, when it abandoned slaving in favour of ivory and gold dust. Charles Hayes (1678–1760), mathematician and chronologer, was sub-governor of Royal African Company until 1752, when it was dissolved. Its successor was the African Company of Merchants.
The Royal African Company's logo depicted an elephant and castle.
From 1668 to 1722 the Royal African Company provided gold to the English Mint. Coins made with such gold bear an elephant below the bust of the king and/or queen. This gold also gave the coinage its name—the guinea.

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  • The flag of the Kingdom of England.


  • Union Flag used in the Kingdom of England, 1606–1707
 
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Definition of DOMINE, DIRIGE NOS: Lord, direct us —motto of the City of London.
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Nickname(s): the Square Mile, the City
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The City of London is a city and ceremonial county within London. It constituted most of London from its settlement by the Romans in the 1st century AD to the Middle Ages, but the conurbation has since grown far beyond the City's borders. The City is now only a tiny part of the metropolis of London, though it remains a notable part of central London. It is one of two districts of London to hold city status; the other is the adjacent City of Westminster.
The City of London is widely referred to simply as the City (often written as just "City" and differentiated from the phrase "the city of London" by capitalising "City") and is also colloquially known as the Square Mile, as it is 1.12 sq mi (2.90 km2) in area. Both of these terms are also often used as metonyms for the United Kingdom's trading and financial services industries, which continue a notable history of being largely based in the City.

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lorenhough

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Hi Loren

The insignia seems to represent the same thing that the song I am the Walrus does. That is a a focus on the Book of Revelation and the coming Apocalypse.

Who are these people?

Joe
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Albert Edward, while Prince of Wales; "His devotion to the cause of Masonry (he was first elected grand master of the Freemasons of England in 1874), and his position as a bencher of the Middle Temple, where he also became (1887) treasurer.

It was the particular distinction of Albert Edward, while Prince of Wales, to have been a substantial support of the throne before he was called upon to fill it. This cannot be said of any of his predecessors except Edward the Black Prince.

Edward VII, King of Great Britain and Ireland, and of the British Dominions beyond the Seas, Emperor of India, the eldest son and second child of Queen Victoria and of Albert, prince consort, was born at Buckingham Palace on the 9th of November 1841. He was created Prince of Wales and Earl of Chester on the 4th of December following, and was baptized on the 25th of January 1842. He afterwards resided at Edinburgh, studying chemistry in its industrial applications under Professor (afterwards Lord) Playfair at the university; at Christ Church, Oxford; and at Trinity College, Cambridge.

He was a keen patron of the theater, and his thoroughly British taste for sport was as pronounced as his inclination for most of the contemporary amusements of society. have twice won the Derby with his horses Persimmon (1896) and Diamond Jubilee (1900) -- his third victory, in 1909, with Minoru, being the first occasion on which the race had been won by a reigning sovereign; and his interest in yacht racing was conspicuously shown at all the important fixtures, his yacht "Britannia" being one of the best of her day.

(1897) of the Prince of Wales's Hospital Fund, his devotion to the cause of Masonry; he was first elected grand master of the Freemasons of England in in 1874.

From the time of their marriage the prince and princess were prominently before the country. Queen Victoria remained in retirement, but they filled her place at important public functions. The most important external event of these years was a tour to Egypt, undertaken in 1869 in company with the Duke of Sutherland, Sir Samuel Baker and others, an account of which was published by Mrs. William Grey. The prince also visited Ireland more than once, and opened the International Exhibition of 1871.

Upon the completion of his Cambridge course in June 1861 he joined the camp at the Curragh. The prince consort died on the 13th of December, and in 1862 the Prince of Wales went for a tour in the Holy Land (February to June) under the guidance of Arthur Penrhyn Stanley, afterwards dean of Westminster.


* In 1859 he travelled in Italy and Spain, and in 1860 paid a visit as "Lord Renfrew" to the 'United States' and Canada. 1st to visit since the revolution.

Edward visited Canada and the United States in the fall of 1860, helping to give a final push to secession and civil war. In 1862 he was in Egypt and the Middle East. In 1875-76 Edward visited India, where he helped to prepare the Afghan war of 1878, which was waged against the influence of Russia. One of the members of Edward’s party on this tour was his fellow rake, lifelong friend, and political ally, Lord Carrington.


When Edward VII wanted to start the Boer War, he did so through Joseph Chamberlain, who was the Colonial Secretary between 1895 and 1903, serving for years in Lord Salisbury’s cabinet. Chamberlain was an architect of the Fashoda crisis with France and of the Boer War.

In the midst of all this, Edward and Joseph Chamberlain had started the Boer War against Transvaal and the Orange Free State, two small states dominated by the Dutch-speaking settlers of the Cape area of South Africa. The British attempt to force the Afrikaners to knuckle under led to the celebrated “Black Week” of December, 1899, with a stunning series of British military defeats on the ground.

A wave of anti-British hatred swept the world as press accounts from the front showed that the bullying imperial colossus had feet of clay. German, French, and Russian newspapers fulminated against London. The Russian government asked Paris and Berlin if they might not consider an intervention to stop the British. Agitation increased when the British responded to their defeats with increased atrocities. The British set up the century’s first concentration camps where Afrikaner children were systematically starved to death.

But if Edward needed to be friendly, he could do that too. During the Boer War, in November 1899, when Britain’s diplomatic isolation was at its height, Edward was able to con the Kaiser into making a state visit to Britain.

The Boxer Rebellion in China, with its overtone of white racial solidarity against the “yellow peril,” was also made to order for duping the Kaiser. In Wilhelm’s dockside harangue to the German contingent setting out for Peking, he urged his soldiers on to cruelty against the Chinese.

As king, Edward played a role in the modernisation of the British Home Fleet and the reorganisation of the British Army after the Second Boer War. He re-instituted traditional ceremonies as public displays and broadened the range of people with whom royalty socialized.

Edward VII’s favorite pen pal was U.S. President Theodore Roosevelt, who was handled from day to day by Cecil Spring-Rice of Sir Edward Grey’s Foreign Office. Edward can hardly have been ignorant of the British role in the assassination of President William McKinley. Starting in 1904, Edward wrote Teddy letters about how the two of them had been placed in command “of the two great branches of the Anglo-Saxon race.”

Teddy wrote back about the need for “understanding between the English-speaking peoples,” and discussing his race theories about “our stock.” Teddy wrote to Edward his view that “the real interests of the English-speaking peoples are one, alike in the Atlantic and the Pacific.” Roosevelt served Edward’s goals in his mediation of the Russo- Japanese War, in his support for the British at the Algeciras Conference, and in raising naval disarmament at the Hague Conference.

Behind his back, Edward’s envoys mocked the U.S. President as a semi-savage who gave primitive lunches at Oyster Bay. Later, Sir Edward Grey exerted a decisive influence on Woodrow Wilson through the intermediary of his key adviser, Col. Edward House.

Queen Victoria retreated to her castle at Balmoral in the Scottish highlands, 500 miles north of London. The court was organized as a death cult, with every pretense that Albert was still alive.

His laundry had to be done, and his nightgown laid out every night. Hot water was brought to his room every morning, and the chamber pot cleaned. There were two guest books, one for the queen, one for Albert, and so on. Victoria made repeated attempts to contact the shade of Prince Albert in the underworld – or the beyond – and these became the origins of the modern British occult bureau. As a result of these seances, the queen became convinced that John Brown, her Scottish gillie (attendant), was a powerful medium through whom the spirit of Albert addressed her. Gossip seeped out from Balmoral to London that John Brown was “the queen’s stallion,” granted every conjugal privilege, including adjoining bedrooms far from the ladies-in-waiting. A pamphlet about the queen appeared entitled “Mrs. John Brown.”Edward VII - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://tarpley.net/online-books/aga...miurge-of-the-triple-entente-and-world-war-1/
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breaking news see what there breaking. humpty dumpty had a great fall*"this whole (video) thing is staged for us!" LH* see why and how;Vito Corleone - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia GODFATHER
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In the lodge we use them only as symbols, save in the dedication, ... "And thou shalt command the children of Israel that they bring pure olive oil;

The oil pressed from the olive was as important to the Jews in Palestine as butter and other fats are among occidentals. Because it was so necessary, and hence so valuable, it became an important part of sacrificial rites. There is no point in the sacrifice which is only a form.

To be effective it must offer before the Altar something of value; something the giving of which will testify to the love and veneration in which the sacrificer holds the Most High.

Oil was also used not only as a food but for lighting purposes; more within the house than in the open air, where torches were more effective. Oil was also an article of the bath; mixed with perfume it was used in the ceremonies of anointment, and in preparation for ceremonial appearances.

The "Precious ointment upon the head, which ran down upon the beard, even Aaron's beard, that went down to the skirts of his garment;" as the quotation has it in our entered Apprentice Degree, (and Nevada's Master Mason opening and closing) was doubtless made of olive oil, suitably mixed with such perfumes and spices as myrrh, cinnamon, galbanum and frankincense. Probably oil was also used as a surgical dressing; nomadic peoples, subject to injuries, could hardly avoid knowledge of the value of soothing oil. Oil was obtained from the olive both by pressing - probably by a stone wheel revolving in or on a larger stone, mill or mortar - and also by a gentle pounding. This hand process produced a finer quality of oil.

"And thou shalt command the children of Israel that they bring pure olive oil beaten for the light, to cause the lamp to burn always." (Exodus, 27-20.)

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Europe
There has been a long tradition for royalty predominantly to marry those of their own class. As a result, the ruling houses of Europe have tended to be closely related to one another, and descent from a particular monarch will be found in many other dynasties – all present European monarchs, and a great many pretenders, are descendants of William I of England, for example.

Another reason for the greater number of descendants from chronologically distant monarchs is that likelihood of descent from a monarch increases as a function of the length of time between the monarch's death and the birth of the particular descendant. Thus, it is theoretically true that "statistically, most of the inhabitants of Western Europe are probably descended from William the Conqueror.

According to American genealogist Gary Boyd Roberts, an expert on royal descent, most Americans with significant New England Yankee, Mid-Atlantic Quaker, or Southern planter ancestry are descended from medieval kings, especially those of England, Scotland, and France. William Addams Reitwiesner documented many U.S. descendants of Renaissance and modern monarchs. Some Americans may have royal descents through German immigrants who had an illegitimate descent from German royalty.

Due to primogeniture, many colonists of high social status were younger children of English aristocratic families who came to America looking for land because, given their birth order, they could not inherit. Many of these immigrants initially enjoyed high standing where they settled. They could often claim royal descent through a female line or illegitimate descent. Some Americans descend from these 17th-century British colonists who had royal descent. There were at least 650 colonists with traceable royal ancestry, and 387 left descendants in America (almost always numbering many thousands, and some as many as one million).These colonists with royal descent settled in every state, but a large majority lived in Massachusetts or Virginia.

Several families which settled in those states, over the two hundred years or more since the colonial land grants, intertwined their branches to the point that almost everyone was somehow related to everyone else. One writer observed, "like a tangle of fish hooks".

Between 1903 and 1911, the Marquis de Ruvigny published volumes titled The Blood Royal of Britain which attempted to name all the then-living descendants of Edward III of England. He gave up the exercise after publishing the names of about 40,000 living people, but his own estimate was that the total of those of royal descent who could be proved and named if he completed his work at that time was 100,000 people. His work, however, was heavily dependent upon those whose names were readily ascertainable from works of genealogical reference, such as Peerages and Burke's Landed Gentry.

Royal descent is now recognized as not infrequent among residents of the United States, as in other countries. At one time, publications on this matter stressed royal connections for only a few families. One example included James Pierpont and others.[7] Too, we see NEHGS articles on "tycoon" families and US presidents of royal descent that emphasize the discriminating notion.[8] That is, those of royal descent excel (to wit, Roberts' article on eminent descendants of Mrs. Alice Freeman Thompson Parke

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Hi Loren

The insignia seems to represent the same thing that the song I am the Walrus does. That is a a focus on the Book of Revelation and the coming Apocalypse.

Who are these people?

Joe
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I am a son of the revolution my relatives came over on the mayflower and I had one relative in schull and bones, meet a guy who's father was in it now, in ca. my friends girl friend I met dated bones at Yale and was in tomb and saw Geronimo skull, a female friend of mine during the day got to go to bohemia club in ca and said the bush family were in the hillbilly camp as wiki says was the Texas group; my grandfather was a 33 mason and was a great guy. LH
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The Indians always tried to live peaceably with the white soldiers and settlers. One day during the time that the soldiers were stationed at Apache Pass I made a treaty with the post. This was done by shaking hands and promising to be brothers. Cochise and Mangus-Colorado did likewise. I do not know the name of the officer in command, but this was the first regiment that ever came to Apache Pass. This treaty was made about a year before we were attacked in a tent, as above related. In a few days after the attack at Apache Pass we organized in the mountains and returned to fight the soldiers.
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At the end of his military career, he led a small band of 38 men, women, and children. They evaded thousands of Mexican and American troops for over a year, making him the most famous Native American of the time and earning him the title of the "worst Indian who ever lived" among white settlers.[22] His band was one of the last major forces of independent Native American warriors who refused to accept the United States occupation of the American West.
 
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LONDON AT THATCHERS FUNERALBy The Unhived Mind – 17 April 2013
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Notice how Dame of Malta, Queen Elizabeth the second [in servants black] symbolically curtsies to the King of The City of London via her positioning on the steps. Notice the Masonic brotherhood handshake over the third step of the Master Mason blue lodge degree and notice the white Freemasonic gloves of the King and the black gloves of the Queen uniting in duality or the yin and yang, and the black and white checker board.

She is greeting a power far greater than her’s within the sovereign state of The City of London.
Sovereign king, Roger Gifford of the City of London is mastered by the Order of Malta Grandmaster Matthew Festing in Rome dominating the The Most Venerable Order of the Hospital of Saint John of Jerusalem through The Alliance of the Orders of St John of Jerusalem.

Margaret Thatcher was a member of the Vatican commanded Le Cercle, and she was mastered by the Roman Catholic, Powell family which is highly connected to The Worshipful Company of Mercers, one of the pirates of the Livery.

All of these are servants to the powerful Society of Jesus shock-troopers and the Jesuit Pope subordinated to the Superior General at the Curia Generalizia in sovereign, Borgo Santo Spirito.

Make note of how St. Paul’s Cathedral is located on the Ludgate Hill at the highest point in The City. This is pagan worship of hills seen as high energy points of power and being closer to the gods of the heavens. We also see moon worship seeing as this was an ancient Goddess Diana temple area. Not surprising knowing The City is all about finance and the word money exists from the moon-eye seeing as the moon controls the oceans on Earth. The oceans is where the power of the maritime admiralty law comes from as well as the ecclesiastical power of the Pope and Roman Catholic Church commanding the admiralty system based on Vatican Canon Law. May I remind you that the King James Bible is really the Bishop of London’s Bible which was mastered by Enochian occultist, Sir John Dee of The Worshipful Company of Mercers. The true power of Britain is the City of London not England, Scotland or Wales. The British Empire is really the City of London Corporation and the pirates of the Livery.

The video below-Notice how her carriage stops and pauses whilst she has to touch the pearl-encrusted Sword of State the Lord Mayor places towards her. Notice she is in normal dress wear as she has zero powers within the City of London and this goes all the way back to 1215 and the signing of the Magna Carta. This removed the Monarchy powers over the Kingdom and the City of London in the blink of an eye as it was a going against the 1213 contract with the Pope and the clause was this very power hand over away from the Monarchy. Today its just an illusion given to the populace that the monarch has power and its done in order to veil the real power. The power over the City of London is the Knights of Malta using the Ad Providam Papal Bull of 1312 by Pope Boniface VIII. Notice the Lord Mayor is in full regalia showing his power over all including over the Monarchy within New Jerusalem. Remember that the Monarchy outside of the City of London was granted their full powers back in 1688 with the English Bill of Rights nullifying all what Oliver Cromwell had done previous.
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“Whenever the Queen makes a state entry to the City, she meets a red cord raised by City police at Temple Bar, and then engages in a colourful ceremony involving the lord mayor, his sword, assorted aldermen and sheriffs, and a character called the Remembrancer. In this ceremony, the lord mayor recognises the Queen’s authority, but the relationship is complex: as the corporation itself says: “The right of the City to run its own affairs was gradually won as concessions were gained from the Crown.” - Nicholas Shaxson (Tax journalist
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From "Pig's Eye" Parrant to John Dillinger to Jesse "The Body" Ventura, downtown St. Paul has seen its share of larger-than-life characters—but even so, a 26-foot, 10-ton Egyptian god is bound to raise a few eyebrows. A giant statue of Anubis, the jackal-headed majordomo of the afterlife, was installed in Landmark Plaza on Tuesday to advertise Tutankhamun: The Golden King and the Great Pharaohs, a major exhibit opening February 18 at the Science Museum of Minnesota. St. Paul mayor Chris Coleman gamely showed up to apply a St. Paul sticker to the suitcase of Anubis, who has previously accompanied Tut to London, Vienna, Toronto, New York City, and Atlanta.
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If you take a look at the logo for the The Most Noble Order of the Garter you will see it is exactly the same as the logo of Fordham University. May I remind you that all the Scottish clans also use this logo as well such as clan Kerr which is connected to the mighty power of the Catholic Howard family of Normans who’s head is the Duke of Norfolk and a powerful figure behind the Archbishop of Westminster. The logo is representative of witchcraft with the buckle symbolizing a coven of a Magus or a witch.
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The Order of the Garter does not control the City of London Corp and it certainly has not been under the control of the Most Venerable Order of Saint John which only came into existence in the 19th Century. The control over the City of London Corporation comes by the Ad Providam Papal Bull and the Order of Malta aka Sovereign Military Order of Malta on behalf of its Cardinal Grandmaster for the Holy See. Prior to 1312 the area was mastered by the Knights Templar from 1215 onwards. To understand the control over Great Britain you have to understand that it is completely run from the City of London aka New Jerusalem which is sovereign. When one understands this and how the Vatican has dominated the region for over a thousand years then you can see through the true command in that region.
King Juan Carlos came of power in 1975 which was twelve-years after the assassination of U.S. President John F. Kennedy. Notice he came into power on November (11) the 22nd the same dating that Kennedy was slaughtered years before. This is the symbolism of Judas and also Saturn’s reaping judgment and the light of Lucifer tied to death and chaos. Kennedy was slaughtered by the Vatican power structure in conjunction with its control base as the City of London Corporation commanding the British Government. Kennedy was connected in the end with the non-aligned Nations and many of these detested all sides of the same Roman Empire coin. Kennedy could not be allowed to challenge the banking system of The Worshipful Company of Mercers. The economy is what rules the World for the merchants and their masters the Priesthood. This is the exact same reason Gaddafi was executed in the fashion he was by the French DGSE and with no trial etc being held unlike Saddam Hussein and Hosni Mubarak. Ask yourself why?
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The three most prominent historical models for the kinds of economic and financial warfare operations carried out by the financial oligarchy as described in John Perkins' recent book Confessions of an Economic Hit Man[1] are: 1) the Venetian empire during the period leading into the Hundred Years War and the Dark Ages of the 14th Century; 2) the Venetian-style empire established by the British East India Company following the Treaty of Paris at the conclusion of the Seven Years War in 1763; and 3) the Anglo-American-German cartels established in the 1920s. The purpose of this report is to examine the latter as the most immediate precedent for the current danger presented by a private financier oligarchy bent on world domination under the guise of "globalization."

The Legacy of History: The Venetian Factor
In 1582, the 40 or so families which controlled the vast fortunes and far-flung intelligence capabilities of Venice, split into two factions: the nuovi (the "new" houses, or families) and the vecchi (the "old" houses). On the surface, the appellations seemed to refer to those families ennobled since the serrata, the closing of the Grand Council in 1297, who were called the nuovi; whereas those who had already held titles of nobility, were the vecchi. In fact, the upheaval was the result of the establishment of sovereign nation-states for the first time in history, as a consequence of the Renaissance. The city-state of Venice, never more than 200,000 people, could not stand against the new powers that were coming into being, founded to promote the Common Good of their citizenry; the sheer numbers, the science and technology, the military power, were too much for even the powerful and devious masters of La Serenissima (as Venice is famously called).

The nuovi realized that, notwithstanding the bloody religious warfare which Venice had unleashed in Europe following the failure of the League of Cambrai to defeat Venice in 1511, its days were ultimately numbered. They took several strategic actions. First, under the leadership of Paolo Sarpi, they created the philosophy of empiricism, as a sense-certainty-based fraud whose purpose was to destroy the creative method of Platonic hypothesizing. Second, also under Sarpi's leadership, they launched a fierce war against the Vatican, posing as the bastion of "enlightened" Europe against obscurantist Rome. Third, they brought the newly emerging Protestant powers England and Holland (whose rise came largely thanks to Venice itself), into what had always been the cornerstone of Venice's fortunes—its trade with the East Indies. The Venetians founded the British East India Company in 1600 (from a merger of the England-based Venice Company and the Turkey Company) and the Dutch East India Company in 1602, and the wealth derived from this trade helped create or enrich a number of great aristocratic families in both countries, along the Venetian model. And, as LaRouche has often emphasized, the British East India Company became the foremost power in the world in 1763, in the wake of the British-rigged Seven Years' War among contending European powers, in the classic Venetian "divide and conquer" method. Fourth, they moved much of their fortunes (and even some of their families) north, first into Holland, and then into England, where they created what would be known in the 18th Century as "the Venetian Party." As part of this, they established the famous Wisselbank (Exchange Bank) of Amsterdam in 1609—the most powerful bank in the world—modelled upon their own private, patrician-controlled banks, followed by the Bank of England in 1694, both serving as the models upon which all central banks have been established since then.

In part because of these redeployments, Venice's financial power remained huge well into the 18th Century, as did its legendary spy system, brilliantly chronicled by Friedrich Schiller in his novella Der Geisterseher (The Ghost-Seer), and American intelligence operative James Fenimore Cooper in his novel The Bravo.[8] Barings Bank in England, the bank of the British East India Company, for instance, was the vehicle for Venetian funds in Britain, and was at the center of the "Venetian Party," together with the Bank of England.

Napoleon Bonaparte had been partially sponsored and funded by Venetian and Genoese families: The Genoese Princess Pallavicini of that era famously punned that her family owned "la buona parte"—"the best part"—of him. His Corsican family had been retainers for the Genoese and Venetian nobility for centuries; and, as noted above, his favorite sister married a Borghese. When Napoleon's ravages had ended, Count Giovanni Capodistria, a Venetian nobleman acting as a government minister of Russia, almost single-handledly wrote the essential documents issued by the 1814-15 Congress of Vienna, which established the ultra-reactionary Holy Alliance. Capodistria also pulled together the modern nation of Switzerland, in part as a repository for Venetian family funds (fondi), which were also used to found several insurance companies in the late 18th Century. These later included the Riunione Adriatica di Sicurtà (RAS) and the Assicurazioni Generali di Venezia e Trieste.[9]

At the turn of the 20th Century, the "ancients" of Venice, although diminished, still commanded important financial and intelligence power, both on their own behalf, but also because they deployed as part of the British- (and subsequently Anglo-American-) dominated world which their ancestors had created. In the wake of the split/redeployments of 1582, they cloned themselves and their institutions and methods to dominate northern Protestant, often freemasonic Europe, while they still maintained their power in their historic seats of control in the formerly Hapsburg-ruled southern, more Catholic portions of Europe, in particular in Italy and Spain, and in the Church at Rome. They played a crucial role in organizing the Balkan Wars which laid the immediate basis for World War I, for which Britain's King Edward VII had schemed for decades. In the early 20th Century, a group of Venetian financier patricians, led by Count Piero Foscari of an ancient family of Venetian Doges, established a number of companies and banks. Chief among the latter, was the Banca Commerciale Italiana (BCI), and in particular its Venice branch.[10]

Though Foscari was the undisputed leader of this Venetian group, its most active public figure was Giuseppe Volpi, later known as Count Giuseppe Volpi di Misurata, after his early-1920s rule of Italian-occupied Libya on behalf of Mussolini. Acting as the point-man for an international financial syndicate including the Bank of England, the Mellons, and the House of Morgan, Volpi organized Mussolini's rise to power, precisely as Schacht did later for those same forces in installing Hitler in Germany. Volpi was Mussolini's Finance Minister from 1925 to July 1928, following which he became a member of the Grand Council of Fascism, and, in 1934, chairman of the Industrialists Association. He designed Mussolini's economic doctrine of corporatism along the model originally laid down by Alexandre Saint-Yves d'Alveydre (1842-1909), the founder of the Synarchy of Empire movement, and the inspiration for the Martinist freemasonic lodges through which the modern Synarchy was organized. Nominally a tripartite pact among corporations, the state, and labor, it was basically rule by corporations, i.e., private financiers.
 
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The Pro-Hitler British Faction
In Great Britain, there was a powerful oligarchical faction which supported Hitler throughout the 1930s, and in 1940 advocated a negotiated peace with Hitler. The Link was a British organization of highly placed Nazi sympathizers. The leader of the pro-Nazi faction in Britain was Lord Halifax, the British Foreign Minister who would become ambassador to Washington. Among the leading pro-Nazis was also the Duke of Windsor. In the Summer of 1937, the Duke had met with Hitler's envoys Rudolf Hess and Martin Bormann at the Hotel Meurice in Paris; the Duke promised to help Hess contact the Duke of Hamilton, who had a direct link with Himmler and Kurt von Schröder, to the Schroder Bank and to the synarchist Banque Worms. Hess was determined to forge an alliance with Great Britain, which explains his dramatic landing at the Hamilton estate in 1941. Also among the rabid British supporters of Hitler was Montagu Norman, of the Bank of England and the BIS, and Lord McGowan.

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Hi Loren

The insignia seems to represent the same thing that the song I am the Walrus does. That is a a focus on the Book of Revelation and the coming Apocalypse.

Who are these people?

Joe
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Japan's FUKUSHIMA Nuclear Disaster w/ Alex Jones March 15, 2011 (yes eleven) the eyes of march the death of Caesar Christ when all hell blows up at Fuk u shima! japan is a day ahead of use unit 3 mox fuel with sfp blew up there then! with unit 4 spent fool pool sfp.
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This show's date was 3/15/2011 - Right when the Fukushima Explosions happened.

Here we see Alex Jones covering the Fukushima event, as it happened, with all the mention of uranium, plutonium, strontium, cesium, iodine; all the more well known names of the isotopes Fukushima released, and is STILL releasing, 4 years later, but if you look up anything with Alex Jones and Fukushima within the last few months, he may occaisionally focus a show on it, but most times he will just mention it, but it is brief, and the subject is quickly changed to other things to divert the attention of the audience away from Fukushima. hmmmmm

One more point I want to add, is On AJ's show, one caller said the stores had been 'sold out' from day one of the event. No way it was all sold out that fast. It was pulled by government order; my local pharmacy verified that to me. She said it had been the government that had them pull it off the shelves, and they were not allowed to sell it to anyone...

Alex covers this in detail, and he had been going along with the "It is sold out" story all along, then added that if people go to the stores for the iodine pills, that "It just isn't there; EVEN THOUGH IT IS..." HUH??! So even though he was agreeing with everyone that iodine was 'sold out, his final comment says he knows the iodine had been pulled. Why didn't he bring that up?

At least he does report that iodine was ordered NOT to be given out at any clinics.

Yet another point to show, is at at 50:00 is was implied that the US fleet HAD been close enough to Fukushima, and had to head out to sea when the wind changed to an easterly direction... Too bad the courts deemed them liers, so the sailors that have died, and those that are dying will never be given recognition for the help they tried to give; instead, they are called liers, and shamed.

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Fukushima April 10th 2015 150 melon-headed whales dead in Ibaraki - Duration: 23 minutes.
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While these whales might not off died from radiation they also might of died from radiation, one is easier to prove than the other .
 
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The Ides of March (Latin: Idus Martiae, Late Latin: Idus Martii)[1] is a day on the Roman calendar that corresponds to 15 March.

It was marked by several religious observances and became notorious as the date of the assassination of Julius Caesar in 44 BC.

The death of Caesar made the Ides of March a turning point in Roman history, as one of the events that marked the transition from the historical period known as the Roman Republic to the Roman Empire.[2]


Although March (Martius) was the third month of the Julian calendar, in the oldest Roman calendar it was the first month of the year
Religious observances


Panel thought to depict the Mamuralia, from a mosaic of the months in which March is positioned at the beginning of the year (first half of the 3rd century AD, from El Djem, Tunisia, in Roman Africa)

The Ides of each month was sacred to Jupiter, the Romans' supreme deity. The Flamen Dialis, Jupiter's high priest [Shepard, led the "Ides *"sheep" (ovis Idulius) in procession along the Via Sacra to the arx, where it was sacrificed.[4]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ides_of_March

In the later Imperial period, the Ides began a "holy week" of festivals[9][10][11] for Cybele and Attis. The Ides was the day of Canna intrat ("The Reed enters"), when Attis was born and exposed as an infant among the reeds of a Phrygian river.[12] He was discovered—depending on the version of the myth—by either shepherds or the goddess Cybele, who was also known as the Magna Mater, "Great Mother".[13] A week later, on 22 March, the day of Arbor intrat ("The Tree enters") commemorated the death of Attis under a pine tree. A college of priests called "tree bearers" (dendrophoroi) cut down a tree,[14] suspended from it an image of Attis,[15] and carried it to the temple of the Magna Mater with lamentations. The day was formalized as part of the official Roman calendar under Claudius.[16] A three-day period of mourning followed,[17] culminating with the rebirth of Attis on 25 March, the date of the vernal equinox on the Julian calendar.[18]

In modern times, the Ides of March is best known as the date on which Julius Caesar was assassinated in 44 BC. Caesar was stabbed to death at a meeting of the senate. As many as 60 conspirators, led by Brutus and Cassius, were involved. According to Plutarch,[19] a seer had warned that harm would come to Caesar no later than the Ides of March. On his way to the Theatre of Pompey, where he would be assassinated, Caesar passed the seer and joked, "The ides of March have come," meaning to say that the prophecy had not been fulfilled, to which the seer replied "Aye, Caesar; but not gone."[19] This meeting is famously dramatised in William Shakespeare's play Julius Caesar, when Caesar is warned by the soothsayer to "beware the Ides of March."[20][21] The Roman biographer Suetonius[22] identifies the "seer" as a haruspex named Spurinna.
Reverdaggersse side of a coin issued by Caesar's assassin Brutus in the fall of 42 BC, with the abbreviation EID MAR (Eidibus Martiis - on the Ides of March) under a "cap of freedom" between two daggers;

Octavian executed 300 senators and knights who had fought against him under Lucius Antonius, Lucius was always a strong supporter of Mark Antony. In 44 BC, the year of Antony's consulship and Julius Caesar's assassination, Lucius as a tribune of the plebs brought forward a law authorizing Caesar to nominate the chief magistrates during his absence from Rome. After the murder of Caesar, he supported his brother Marcus. He proposed an agrarian law in favor of the people and Caesar's veterans, and took part in the operations at Mutina (43 BC) the brother of Mark Antony.[25] The executions were one of a series of actions taken by Octavian to avenge Caesar's death. Suetonius and the historian Cassius Dio characterised the slaughter as a religious sacrifice,[26][27] noting that it occurred on the Ides of March at the new altar to the deified Julius.
 
Parts of the analysis of The Tempest given in the article above are incorrect. I will be producing a revision shortly.

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lorenhough

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Parts of the analysis of The Tempest given in the article above are incorrect. I will be producing a revision shortly.

Joe Atwill
Ireland & America Vs. The New Venetian Empire

Ever since as early as 1689, when both the citizens of Massachusetts Bay and of Ireland waged parallel and simultaneous revolutions against William of Orange and his "New Venetian Empire", Irish and Americans have found ourselves in solidarity in an unbroken struggle which continues to the present day. The long arm of this history is now acting to shape the present.

See video here; http://archive.larouchepac.com/node/17692

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Ireland & America Vs. The New Venetian Empire

Ever since as early as 1689, when both the citizens of Massachusetts Bay and of Ireland waged parallel and simultaneous revolutions against William of Orange and his "New Venetian Empire", Irish and Americans have found ourselves in solidarity in an unbroken struggle which continues to the present day. The long arm of this history is now acting to shape the present.

See video here; http://archive.larouchepac.com/node/17692

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Tarpley? Lets not poison the well but just look at what's said;
How the Venetian System Was Transplanted Into England
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Webster G. Tarpley, Ph.D.
New Federalist, June 3, 1996

Under the impact of the War of the League of Cambrai, the Venetian oligarchy realized the futility of attempting a policy of world domination from the tiny base of a city-state among the lagoons of the northern Adriatic. As was first suggested by the present writer in 1981, the Venetian oligarchy (especially its “giovani” faction around Paolo Sarpi) responded by transferring its family fortunes (fondi), philosophical outlook, and political methods into such states as England, France, and the Netherlands. Soon the Venetians decided that England (and Scotland) was the most suitable site for the New Venice, the future center of a new, world-wide Roman Empire based on maritime supremacy. Success of this policy required oligarchical domination and the degradation of the political system by wiping out any Platonic humanist opposition. Also because of the new route to the old world around Africa had been found, and the opening up of the new world.

Henry VIII was King of England between 1509 and 1547. His accession to the throne coincided with the outbreak of the War of the League of Cambrai, in which most European states, including France, the Holy Roman Empire (Germany), Spain, and the papacy of Pope Julius II della Rovere joined together in a combination that bid fair to annihilate Venice and its oligarchy. The League of Cambrai was the world war that ushered in the modern era. Henry VIII attracted the attention of the Venetian oligarchy when he – alone among the major rulers of Europe – maintained a pro-Venetian position during the crisis years of 1509-1510, just as Venice was on the brink of destruction. Henry VIII was for a time the formal ally of Venice and Pope Julius. The Venetian oligarchy became intrigued with England.

Three times within the span of 25 years the English population was thus coerced into changing their religion under the threat of capital punishment. Three times, the supposedly eternal verities taught by the village parson were turned upside down, clearly because of dynastic ambition and raison d’état. The moral, psychological, and intellectual destruction involved in this process was permanent and immense.

James I was a leading theoretician of the divine right of kings. He delivered long speeches to the parliament, telling the wealthy latifundists and the Puritan merchant oligarchs of London that they could as little tell him what to do as they could tell God what to do. Policy, said James, was “king’s craft” and thus “far above their reach and capacity.” James I was an enthusiastic supporter of Paolo Sarpi in Sarpi’s 1606 struggle against the Papal Interdict. James I did this in part because he thought he had received his crown directly from God, without any mediation by the Pope. Venetian influence at the Stuart court was accordingly very great. Sarpi even talked of retiring to England.
James was also an occultist. Shakespeare left London not long after the coming of James, and died after unwisely sitting down to drinks with the Aristotelian hack Ben Jonson.

James’s feeble pro-Spanish appeasement policy bitterly disappointed Paolo Sarpi, Cecil’s boss and the leading Venetian intelligence chief of the era. James made peace with Spain in 1604, ending 19 years of war. Cecil then tried to induce James into an anti-Spanish policy with a planned provocation – Guy Fawkes and the Gunpowder plot of 1605. Sarpi schemed to unleash the Thirty Years’ War (1618-1648) as an apocalyptic confrontation between Protestant and Catholic Europe, and he wanted England in the fray. James’s adviser, Sir Francis Bacon of the Cecil family, urged James to enter the war against Spain and Austria, but James first attempted to mediate the conflict and then did nothing. Charles I was equally disappointing: He married the Catholic Princess Henrietta Maria of France, and helped France to defeat the French Calvinists or Huguenots – a Venetian asset – in their stronghold of LaRochelle.

So what had the Puritan Revolution accomplished, beyond killing 500,000 persons? First, Cromwell had founded the British Empire. Between 1651 and 1660 he had added 200 warships to the British Navy, more than the early Stuarts had managed to build during their 40-year tenure. Cromwell’s war with the Dutch (1652-1654), which hardly made sense for a Puritan, made plenty of sense in the light of the 1,700 Dutch ships captured. Cromwell set up a convoy system for English merchant vessels, including those bringing coal from Newcastle. The basis of British naval domination was thus laid. After making peace with Holland, Cromwell made war on Spain, in exact conformity with Venetian requirements. Cromwell conquered: Jamaica, St. Helena, Surinam, Dunkirk, Nova Scotia and New Brunswick (in Canada). In addition, he established the status of the Portuguese Empire as a satellite and auxiliary of London. It was under Cromwell that English ships established a permanent presence in the Mediterranean; in his last years, he was considering the conquest of Gibraltar to facilitate this stationing. Jamaica, a center of the slave trade, stood out in what was called the Western Design – making war on Spain in the New World.

The Anglo-Venetians decided that they were fed up with the now-Catholic, pro-French and wholly useless Stuart dynasty. Representatives of some of the leading oligarchical families signed an invitation to the Dutch King, William of Orange, and his Queen Mary, a daughter of James II. John Churchill, the future Duke of Marlborough, was typical of James’ former supporters who now went over to support William and Mary. William landed and marched on London. This is called by the British the “Glorious Revolution” of 1688; in reality, it consolidated the powers and prerogatives of the oligarchy, which were expressed in the Bill of Rights of 1689. No taxes could be levied, no army raised, and no laws suspended without the consent of the oligarchy in Parliament. Members of Parliament were guaranteed immunity for their political actions and free speech. Soon, ministers could not stay in office for long without the support of a majority of Parliament. Parliament was supreme over the monarch and the state church. At the same time, seats in Parliament were now bought and sold in a de facto market. The greater the graft to be derived from a seat, the more a seat was worth. Within a few years after the Glorious Revolution there was a Bank of England and a national debt.

When George I ascended the throne in 1714, he knew he was a Doge, the primus inter pares of an oligarchy.

The regime that took shape in England after 1688 was the most perfect copy of the Venetian oligarchy that was ever produced. Tarpley

Central banks telling timeline;
bank of Amsterdam 1609,
the bank of Hamburg, just up the coast in 1619;
Sweden 1656
London 1689, made possible by the bank of Amsterdam putting in William of orange from Holland on the English throne.
page 58 'secrets of the FR.' by Mullins.

In Parke Godwin’s Sherwood, the Fighting Man is hidden away after the Battle of Hastings by an English warrior, and brought out years later as the stirring standard for a significant battle, but in reality it seems that William the Conqueror sent it as tribute to Pope Alexander II, perhaps in thanks for the Papal banner and ring Alexander conferred on William before the battle. From there it seems to have vanished into the dusty recesses of Vatican archives, never to be seen again.
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In Parke Godwin’s Sherwood, the Fighting Man is hidden away after the Battle of Hastings by an English warrior, and brought out years later as the stirring standard for a significant battle, Fighting Man banner around which King Harold and his housecarls made their last stand against the Normans.
but in reality it seems that; William the Conqueror sent the fighting man flag as tribute to Pope Alexander II, perhaps in thanks for the Papal banner and ring Alexander conferred on William before the battle. From there it seems to have vanished into the dusty recesses of Vatican archives, never to be seen again.

Loren, in the context of your original posting on this matter, what is the significance of the Fighting Man banner? One moment you are talking about William of Orange and the Venetians, then you switch to William the Conqueror, many centuries earlier.

In the other thread recently, you asked Jerry who he thought were the real PTB today. What you are discussing here, is yet the real PTB today, and they represent the Biblical House of Ephraim, descended from the 18th Egyptian Dynasty and that of the Mittani, (aka the real Sabeans > Sabines).

Yet, you and Joe are convinced that today's Ashkenazi Jews, who claim as 'Jews' in their own Bible (albeit adopted from the OG) to be subservient to Ephraim, have openly jumped the shark, so to speak. If I have characterized yours and Joe's position correctly, would we be better off returning to .... what?

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Where did you go wrong fellow Sabean? :rolleyes:

The Norman Conquest was a 'millennial' 1,000 years after the Jewish War BTW. And then the Normans decided that this 'Domesday' (Doomsday) wasn't enough, so they decided to foment the Crusades, and visit Jerusalem, detouring to Abraham's hometown of Urfa (Edessa) on the way, (where the Jolly Roger - skull and bones came from). Just a few miles down the road from Urfa was Harran, where the actual Sabean (star watchers) lived, and where Abraham's father lived, and where they were known for worshiping the Moon god, Sin.

Flavio Barbiero, in his Secret Society of Moses, claims that the Normans were not rude Vikings converted to Christianity, but rather descendants of the Hasmonean priestly family (and that of Josephus Flavius extended family that came to Rome with him). They 'merely' piggybacked (cuckholded?) upon Rollo's Vikings, as well as had their entourage of subservient 'Jews' that came with them from Normandy/Brittany to England and Scotland.

The late Nicholas DeVere (that Norman family of Oxford) claimed that the now Norman DeVere's were the real PTB of the Bible, not those rude 'Jews'. Hmmm -- Maybe he meant they are Ephraim? But, he also claimed those Venetians were out to get all the DeVeres. Apparently the "tinker merchant" Venetians weren't too successful after so many centuries of trying.

The book, When Scotland was Jewish, claims that the famous Kennedy clan is Melungeon, like Elvis Presley, and therefore 'Jewish', albeit by conversion. We recently learned from Paul Fitzgerald, that the original Fitzgerald in Ireland was in reality a Norman noble, ostensibly a rogue one, from the common Norman POV. In Ireland it is thus said that the Fitzgeralds are more Irish than the Irish. Hmmm --- How can this be, JFK?

Tyrone McCloskey asserted that the Bauer (Rothschild) family is associated with Bavaria. I don't know, but if so, this is indeed consistent with the Josephan / Maccabee schema of Barbiero, and that fact that the Romans genetically insinuated themselves throughout Christianized Europe by intermarriage. This is also why the Roman historian and lawmaker was accused of being a Levite.

Imagine, people claiming the name and identity of others. What did Tonto (for stupid, or duped?) call the Lone Ranger? Quimo Sabe
 
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