Science and Christianity

[Miss Kitty]

How can you support "scientific consensus," then go on to admit that there's a crisis in repeatability of scientific papers? How can you take as valid a scientific consensus that is supported by oligarchs? Isn't that enough to bring it under suspicion?

Here's a fun video for you guys in which Vox Day explains why science is fundamentally dependent upon Christianity. Miss Kitty like:

https://voxday.blogspot.com/2018/04/voxiversity-005.html?m=1

 

[Richard Stanley]

The real Deep State (not discussed by Agent Orange Leaks) is intent on protecting cryptoJews like Miss Kitty from threats, albeit mostly fake. No different than when the globalsit Christian (Judaism Lite) scam was foisted on humanity in the first place.

Christianity is responsible for Science? You mean Fake Science like Intelligent Design.

Oh, you mean Christians known as Freemasons, which some are sure are really Jews. Did you know that: others say that the Slim Mooses are responsible for modern Science, without which Miss Kitty's Jews and such would have been clueless? Well, the Slim Mooses, in their Slim Moose Lodges no doubt, merely served as caretakers for the texts of pagan antiquity, so that when Christianity unwilling uncorked its constipated asses from the dark ages, we're yet dealing with mitigating the inherent extremes of the explosive results. Otherwise, we could have accomplished such mitigations long ago.

 

[Richard Stanley]

Far from me not to own up to my mistakes, I have to admit, once more that Miss Kitty is correct, Here, it seems that the Christian sciences are claiming that such as 5(O)G husbands are indeed better than one. It was indeed those Jews who shortchanged Miss Kitty et al. from their due pleasures and such.

Among other forms of marriage, ordained by Gourd, the following mentions the Levirate Marriage practice used by the early Patriarchs. a problem with on instance of this divine marriage practice was how we ended up with Miss Kitty's Jews in the first place.

All womankind, at least, thank you Miss Kitty.

Oh yes, I did discuss with Jerry that you are indeed correct that the USA was formed as a White Supremacist construct, using the model from the Chosen Other White People (COWP). COWP? Is this why one cannot cook a calf in its mother's milk? No, that's just silly, but it sounds good. Yum!!

Note that 5(O)G stands for 5 OG (Original Gangster) husbands, which '5G' inclusivity allows this thread to stay on topic.

 

[Jerry Russell]

Note that 5(O)G stands for 5 OG (Original Gangster) husbands, which '5G' inclusivity allows this thread to stay on topic.

I'm going to have to rule that out. Off-topic digression moved to new thread.

Here's a fun video for you guys in which Vox Day explains why science is fundamentally dependent upon Christianity.

The video claims that the problem of irreproducible results in science, is caused by lying secular scientists. It goes on to argue that Christian scientists hold themselves to a higher standard, and would never falsify their results.

However, I don't think the problem is "lying" so much as confirmation bias, systematic statistical errors, financial incentives, and other problems that don't rise to the level of conscious and intentional deception. And of course Vox Day doesn't produce any actual evidence in the video to show that scientific studies by Christians are more reliable than those by non-Christians. It's just pure speculation on his part.

If only Christians can do science, how does one account for the remarkable achievements of the medieval Islamic "golden age"?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_in_the_medieval_Islamic_world

Science in the medieval Islamic world was the science developed and practised during the Islamic Golden Age under the Umayyads of Córdoba, the Abbadids of Seville, the Samanids, the Ziyarids, the Buyids in Persia, the Abbasid Caliphate and beyond, spanning the period roughly between 786 and 1258. Islamic scientific achievements encompassed a wide range of subject areas, especially astronomy, mathematics, and medicine. Other subjects of scientific inquiry included alchemy and chemistry, botany and agronomy, geography and cartography, ophthalmology, pharmacology, physics, and zoology.​

 

[Miss Kitty]

I'd say that scientific consensus is virtually worthless now in matters of concern to oligarchs. What would that leave out, I wonder? Oligarchs are in a position to pay unlimited amounts of money. Isn't the reproducibility crisis unprecedented in the West? Vox Day argues that it's probably because of the decline of Christianity, and I agree. My only other thought is that scientists are just dumber now on average due to affirmative action. You can't elevate less talented, less qualified people all over society and expect it to have no impact. And who cares if people are competent when the truth doesn't matter, anyway, to the only people that matter - the oligarchs? I read recently that the engineering school at UCLA is trolling for women and Mexicans to enroll. Why not just forget about standards altogether?

We must return to meritocracy. And that means mostly white men should run the labs. And they should return to Christianity.

 

[Richard Stanley]

We must return to meritocracy. And that means mostly white men should run the labs. And they should return to Christianity.

What about things like having men be chefs, cooking food for others, which is clearly a woman's job. But then, if this is a woman's job, should there be anything like restaurants at all? As such cooking should only be done in the confines of the domicile.

Ooooh? What if robots did all the cooking at restaurants, as well as busing tables and taking customer orders? Because women (especially white women, unless they are slaves, ordained by true Christianity (Judaism Lite)), should not be doing such perversion either. Their job is to make babies, lots of babies, and then feed them and their subsequent babies. And to make wool yarn and cotton thread, but this already was automated --- by SATAN. EVIL!!!

I'll bet all of your clothing is home spun right? Or at least made by slaves ... somewhere on Yahweh's Earth right?

We must return to meritocracy. And that means mostly white men should run the labs. And they should return to Christianity.

Your use of the word 'mostly' is explicit that you have some exceptions to the Chosen People. Who are these bastards?

And as we discussed before, there are gradations of White People, the lesser of them are clearly Mud People, at best. As you strongly agreed before, by your silence, the term slave is intimately related to Slavs.

What kind of Christianity should they return to, or what if they were never Christian in the first place? Should we burn them at the stake, or disembowel them (first) -- for their own good?

 

[Miss Kitty]

I know you guys are pretty down on Christianity, but you might entertain this video by Vox Day for a few minutes. Or did you already? I think it's beyond dispute that most important scientific discoveries have been made by white men, and probably white Christian men at that. I believe that the current crisis in science probably relates to the loss of Christianity in the West. Aren't diiscussions of scientific papers pretty much rendered useless these days? Vox seems to think so. Are you looking only at studies that have been replicated?

And why this big push to get minorities into science? It just isn't going to help anyone to go on denying the obvious. Jerry has a patent or two - and I don't. Why? Nobody was preventing me from doing whatever I wanted in life. Nobody oppressed me because thank god I was born into Western Culture. I would especially like to know if you guys have any evidence that what Vox says about women's rights being founded in the Christian West - and nowhere else - isn't true. I mean, since you're so left wing and anti West and all. Sorry I'm off topic again, but you guys bug me. : D

 

[Jerry Russell]

you might entertain this video by Vox Day for a few minutes. Or did you already?

You don't actually read what we write here, eh? See post #4 in this thread.

Aren't diiscussions of scientific papers pretty much rendered useless these days? Vox seems to think so.

No, but it helps to actually read the studies and see if they make the common errors that lead to irreproducible results.

 

[Richard Stanley]

I know you guys are pretty down on Christianity, but you might entertain this video by Vox Day for a few minutes. Or did you already? I think it's beyond dispute that most important scientific discoveries have been made by white men, and probably white Christian men at that. I believe that the current crisis in science probably relates to the loss of Christianity in the West. Aren't diiscussions of scientific papers pretty much rendered useless these days? Vox seems to think so. Are you looking only at studies that have been replicated?

Both Jerry and I have gone over this, that if it was up to Christianity you'd be making mud pies in a feudal cabbage patch.

Science is no different than Religion in being subject to political pressures, so what's your point. However, Western Religion, at least, is always about reframing property theft and genocidal murder as being justified by its shitty god.

THIS IS YOUR SUPERIOR ETHIC, which you have consciously and/or subconsciously embraced.

And why this big push to get minorities into science?

Why are you so threatened? We need these minorities to learn the sciences, so that we can send them to Russia, before the White Russians destroy the Earth with nuclear radiation and such.

Nobody was preventing me from doing whatever I wanted in life. Nobody oppressed me because thank god I was born into Western Culture.

Obviously, because you never tried to do anything that women were prevented from doing when you became a woman. Is there a bottom to your pool of circular logic?

I would especially like to know if you guys have any evidence that what Vox says about women's rights being founded in the Christian West - and nowhere else - isn't true.

Islam was far ahead of Christianity in granting non-slave women liberal rights. Why are you, of all people concerned about womens' rights? You are a baby factory, chattel (cattle), and the satisfier of mens' hormonal needs. Even Trump get's Mel to satisfy those guys from North Korea and Canada, right? Agent Orange says that Mel knows them real well, wink, wink. #MelaniaLovesTrudeau

I mean, since you're so left wing and anti West and all. Sorry I'm off topic again, but you guys bug me. : D

As stated before, the American revolutionary experience is inherently Liberal, this is why real Americans are repelled by literal kings and queens, and those that pretend to such, whom you express such adoration for. As such, leave my country now, and take that Eastern Phoenician camel jockey with you. If Lebanon is so great why isn't he there, fighting for it? Send them back, send them back!!!!

And, he can go help the Israelis build the second Third Temple ... to please your genocidal god..

As per established conventions, I vote to have Miss Kitty permanently banned for failure to engage with the materials and dialogue on this site, while relentlessly trolling her ironicly racist meme agenda. This is not a platform such.

"If It Makes You Happy"

I've been long, a long way from here
Put on a poncho, played for mosquitos,
And drank til I was thirsty again
We went searching through thrift store jungles
Found Geronimo's rifle, Marilyn's shampoo
And Benny Goodman's corset and pen

Well, o.k. I made this up
I promised you I'd never give up

[Chorus]
If it makes you happy
It can't be that bad
If it makes you happy
Then why the hell are you so sad

You get down, real low down
You listen to Coltrane, derail your own train
Well who hasn't been there before?
I come round, around the hard way
Bring you comics in bed, scrape the mold off the bread
And serve you french toast again

Well, o.k. I still get stoned
I'm not the kind of girl you'd take home

[Chorus]

We've been far, far away from here
Put on a poncho, played for mosquitos
And everywhere in between
Well, o.k. we get along
So what if right now everything's wrong?

[Chorus]​

The previously unknown, even to Sheryl Crow, extended last chorus:

If it makes you happy
It can't be that bad
If it makes you happy
Then why the hell are you so sad
Just chop off their fucking heads

Well, o.k. I made this up
Hopefully so soon I can give up​

As I was writing this, President Trump sent me a brilliant email saying how he was touched by my yuuuge civility and decency here to all real humans.

 

[Claude Badley]

Greetings again Miss Kitty...

How can you support "scientific consensus," then go on to admit that there's a crisis in repeatability of scientific papers? How can you take as valid a scientific consensus that is supported by oligarchs? Isn't that enough to bring it under suspicion?

Here's a fun video for you guys in which Vox Day explains why science is fundamentally dependent upon Christianity. Miss Kitty like:

https://voxday.blogspot.com/2018/04/voxiversity-005.html?m=1

...but why did you refer us to a video post that lets Schrodinger's Cat out of the bag? In claiming that science is fundamentally dependent on Christianity, you underscore the fact that the West is now falling behind in science.

This is because the West, confusing Christianity with science, believes in mathematical BS like the Big Bang (finite universe) and the idea that science is deterministic, history reduced to mathematical prediction and probability (i.e. is the cat alive or dead or in some 'quantum intermediate' state?). It was Japan that discovered neutral mutation theory and fuzzy logic, not the West - and China too is starting to overtake the West as it is not hampered by Christianity-science harmonizing pseudoscientific theories like Einstein's. Indeed monotheism, especially in the hypocritical form of Judaeo-Christianity (i.e. the polite version of Zionism), is the very thing that is now holding the West back, and threatening WW3 too!

Yours faithfully
Claude

 

[Richard Stanley]

Please don't get her started.

But since you've gone there, we must remind her that real men, even Jesus, once only wore dresses or skirts (by different names). Then came the Persians with their 'civilized' pants which have overwarmed all our two balls.

 

[Claude Badley]

So you do believe in Global Warming...

Please don't get her started.

But since you've gone there, we must remind her that real men, even Jesus, once only wore dresses or skirts (by different names). Then came the Persians with their 'civilized' pants which have overwarmed all our two balls.

...after all! At least where it counts.

Yours faithfully
Claude