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Jerry Russell

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You completely fail to grasp the implications of Marcuse's hypocrisy.
I still haven't read Marcuse, and I don't intend to. He was, after all, a CIA operative during WWII and after. So I don't look to him for guidance. On the contrary, critiques are more than welcome.

Even so, let's at least try to be accurate, eh Claude? In the quote you presented, Marcuse is stating that the suppression of infantile sexuality is a precondition for the reduction of the individual to the status of a cog in the capitalist machine, enslaved to monogamy and procreation. This is a description, not a prescription for recovery. Perhaps it's possible to recover some sensitivity and appreciation for the "pleasure principal" without reverting to a purely infantile (i.e. small and helpless) state?

The teaching there derives from a fatal flaw dealing with humanity's original tribal societies: they presumed that there was an original situation in which there was group marriage, promiscuous &/or indiscriminate sexual liaisons between males & females.

No such tribe of people has ever been found* - the story of group marriage merely arises from Marx & Engels - and many others' - adolescent fantasies.
Engels discusses the anthropological findings of his time, resulting from studies of Iroquois and Hawaiian native American tribes. He says it was found that these tribes had a different understanding of consanguinity or family relations. "The Iroquois calls not only his own children his sons and daughters, but also the children of his brothers; and they call him father." The argument is that such language could only develop if at some earlier time, men who were brothers shared wives among themselves; or perhaps, women who were sisters shared their husbands; or, the entire tribe enjoyed promiscuous sexual relations.

The text continues:

Lately it has become fashionable to deny the existence of this initial stage in human sexual life. Humanity must be spared this “shame.” It is pointed out that all direct proof of such a stage is lacking, and particular appeal is made to the evidence from the rest of the animal world; for, even among animals, according to the numerous facts collected by Letourneau (Evolution du manage et de la faults, 1888), complete promiscuity in sexual intercourse marks a low stage of development. But the only conclusion I can draw from all these facts, so far as man and his primitive conditions of life are concerned, is that they prove nothing whatever.

Next there is a discussion of the apes, which is admittedly and sadly lacking in factual grounding. Today we know that the bonobo chimps are indeed promiscuous, while gorillas tend more towards polygamy.

With the benefit of another century of anthropological studies, it seems safe to say that we never are going to find a tribe of people who are as promiscuous as bonobo chimps. But on the other hand, we also know that tribes adapt to their situation, and become polyandrous or polygamous when the circumstances warrant it.

The phenomenon of "partible paternity" is an accepted fact: some tribes do not recognize the idea that each child has only one father. Instead, these tribes believe that a woman could have sexual relations with several men at the same time, and persuade each of those men to take responsibility for the child.

*This is also the underlying reason why there was so much conflict over Margaret Mead's Coming of Age in Samoa.
As far as I can tell, the "conflict" has occurred because some giggly teenage girls told Margaret Mead that they had been sleeping around. Those same girls grew up to be old responsible women who told an uptight male anthropologist that they'd been lying.

So who knows what the truth is? Do teenage girls ever have sex with the boys, and then lie about it later?? I think this happens in every culture, authoritarian or not.
 
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Claude Badley

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[Moderator's note: moved from Coronavirus thread...]

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Only a powerful leader, not a Leiter* but a true Fuehrer, can overcome the emerging Western culture police state but in order to do so needs powerful principles behind him/herself. (Even Joe won't say this, as he still publicly hopes for some "restoration of genuine democracy" - though he saw the BS and the crooked agenda behind COVID-19 before I did!)

This is why I can only suspect that this "public-spiritedness" on this website is merely more democratic booze like that found in Marcuse's Eros & Civilization and One-Dimensional Man. Or in other words Ruby, this website remains trapped in Descartes' Tolerance Camp**, Sergeant Jerry Russell so loved (and by more than yourself) for being so easy going - but always obedient to the monocular Kommandantur of modern science where all incisive criticism of the modern agenda is continually dismissed.

Yours faithfully
Claude


*Note that German has two words for leader - Leiter and Fuehrer. Der Leiter is masculine but the meaning of the word is clear from the feminine - die Leiter, which is the German for 'ladder'. The Leiter leads along footsteps already laid out by others - the Fuehrer in contrast has to pioneer a new path requiring the most radical thinking an innovation. Australia's need for a Franco (dedicated anti-Freemason) is becoming more apparent every day as the government is hell-bent on introducing vaccination passports - and the people are helpless as they lack even guns to fight against an always-armed police force hell-bent on suppressing us, as good police are resigning in disgust, the force filling up with thugs. The states of emergencies in Western Australia are continually extended by finding one "positive PCR" case, and eventually they will shut down internet access and any communications countering the MSM genocidal agenda - the Vaccine Salvation Cult of genocide by stealth.

**See General Science Journal #8793 section I:3 at:

Science Journals (gsjournal.net)

For the general tolerance camp principle see: South Park - The Death Camp of Tolerance - Bing video
 
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Jerry Russell

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(Even Joe won't say this, as he still publicly hopes for some "restoration of genuine democracy" - though he saw the BS and the crooked agenda behind COVID-19 before I did!)
So you think that Joe is privately a fascist like you, waiting for the perfect strongman? Good luck with that. I have my running disagreements with Joe, but he's not about to join the Pope's army. Even though Richard used to worry about that.

This is why I can only suspect that this "public-spiritedness" on this website is merely more democratic booze like that found in Marcuse's Eros & Civilization and One-Dimensional Man.
How perceptive of you! Yes, I think democracy is an idea that deserves to be tried out. The people should demand it!

For remarks about Marcuse, though, see post #281 above. When combining the fascist remarks into one thread, one sees how repetitive it all is.

**See General Science Journal #8793 section I:3
Congratulations on your new paper! I will try to find time to offer some sort of review.

For the general tolerance camp principle see: South Park - The Death Camp of Tolerance - Bing video
Very funny. As I don't have anything nice to say about "Critical Race Theory" either, I will see your hilarious video and raise it with two from JP Sears. He's on a roll lately, between starting his own CRT Tolerance Camp, and making fun of Fauci. Although I don't like the way he conflates CRT with classical Marxism, and both of those with Stalinism, Leninism, Trotskyism and Maoism. I have been having an email discussion with a Trotskyite from WSWS, and don't know what to think.


 
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