Jerry, Schauberger was forced by Hitler to work for him. Schauberger detested the Nazi regime. Edited to add that one has to read Schauberger's original works, as well as ignore editor and translator Callum Coats' Theosophical distractions, to enjoy Schauberger's discoveries.
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That's not the point you made, and it's not the point I made. We were not talking about Western liberal democracy. We were talking about the design of Fascist systems, which is to find a murderous psychopathic megalomaniac and put him in control of the power of the State, for the subjugation of everyone else. That's the system you're advocating as the ultimate panacea for all mankind's problems.
Here are a couple of old articles about psychopathy for you:
https://911-strike.com/psychopaths.htm
https://911-strike.com/government.htm
Jerry, there is so much theft, deliberate obuscation and "rerouting" of VS's works it's not funny. All over the internet. I bought all of VS's books from the Schauberger family's recommended publisher in Ireland for that reason.
Here's a free PDF of Viktor Schauberger's, "Our Senseless Toil," for anyone who may be interested.
https://archive.org/details/Our_Senseless_Toil
I believe his other works are also available as free pdfs here too. Again, if you're interested, just please keep in mind that Callum Coats, editor and publisher, does try to put his own Theosophical spin on things, but that's easy to spot.
This really seems unrelated to fascism and this thread, but VS was the archenemy of fascism, and very much a threat to it.
https://archive.org/details/Our_Senseless_Toil
I believe his other works are also available as free pdfs here too. Again, if you're interested, just please keep in mind that Callum Coats, editor and publisher, does try to put his own Theosophical spin on things, but that's easy to spot.
This really seems unrelated to fascism and this thread, but VS was the archenemy of fascism, and very much a threat to it.
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well global “Abrahamic” “messianic” (Trotskyite corporate “Neocon” communism) monarchy is the same schtick, but way way worse!!
Exactly, Trotskyite communism is global “fascist” corporate communist monarchy...
... as Jefferson pointed out as shown by John Devanny Ph.D.: “The story of the American political order, at least to this point, is the collapse of the influence and autonomy of the local into a consolidated [global] political and financial order, what Jefferson’s people called [global, messianic(?)] monarchy. This order is not merely political, it includes cultural, social, RELIGIOUS, and political mores and habits [global] in their scope and often emanating from [extranational] institutions closely aligned with the centers of [extranational] political and economic power.” ~https://www.abbevilleinstitute.org/blog/poison-under-the-wings/
It’s way more than just destruction of the sexes, the whole trans YHWH thing is more than just about the sexes, it’s to transmogrify everything to dehumanization and borgification. The insidious programming of the usury communism matrix of the trans he-she “god” “YHWH“ of A-Brahma suppresses racial identity and seeks to pasteurize all peoples into a raceless, rootless mass of homogenous humatons. The reality of divine oneness (holographical quantum epionitic consciousness) is falsely invoked to legitimize this dehumanization, with the cant that if All are One we should live together in peace and brotherhood forever. The truth is that there is no contradiction between the oneness of Supernal Spirit (of which each of us is a holon or quanta spirit of supernal consciousness), which underlies all creation, and the infinite variety of separate forms and beings which it spawns. In fact if all went back to unity, it would be the end of the cosmos.
Spiritual enlightenment awakens an individual to the love of the God for all beings, called Caritas. We have also awakened to the reality of racial identity; from this arises another kind of love, the deep primordial philos that binds together a family, clan, or tribe. Again there is no contradiction: enlightened individuals have philial feelings exclusively for their racial kindred, and this does not diminish their Caritas for all humanity. Awareness of the overarching unity gives us the wisdom to draw the line of separation exactly where it’s needed. Dharma requires strong boundaries on every front!
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Winter's here where I live, and I have to gear down for "survival mode," which for me means no internet except for weather forecasts (I live off grid and pretty primitively). So everyone take care, and thanks so much Jerry for letting me participate here, I truly enjoyed the experience.
Erc, are you saying that the existing regime in Washington is a 'Trotskyite corporate Neocon communist monarchy' already, or do you mean to say that current trends are pointing in that direction? I can see that a communist monarchy would be equally bad as classic Mussolini or Hitler-style Fascism, but why would you say "way way worse!!"? And can you imagine any better system than Fascism? Is it OK if we aspire to something better than having to choose between left-wing communist monarchy vs. right-wing Fascist dictatorship?
The problem comes when white people lay claim to all the best real estate in temperate climates, and most natural mineral resources worldwide, leaving all other races to fight over the dregs. And the situation isn't much better if white Americans and Europeans extend their privilege to some fortunate people of other races who happen to live within the favored national borders.
I'll take a look.
Thank you for your contributions! Perhaps you are Richard's reincarnation, is that possible?? You came along at a remarkable moment, and said exactly the right things.
Hope to see you again in the spring.
yup, since the days of Hamilton ... and
Please, the African continent can hold all of Europe, India, China, and the USA combined ... nationalism for me but not for thee? https://www.timesofisrael.com/knesset-votes-contentious-jewish-nation-state-bill-into-law/ The hypocrisy is astounding! ... and this land grab attempt going on https://thedailycoin.org/2017/04/02/greater-israel-zionist-plan-middle-east/ would be larger than the continental USA! Conspiracies indeed!
But perhaps the Trojans are helping to make good the agreement made on the “Trojan Horse” ... ;-) ——> https://postflaviana.org/community/index.php?threads/the-egyptian-roots-of-freemasonry-the-inner-cult-of-the-kings.2058/post-17235
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This is almost true. I'm not sure India would fit. But it's beside the point, because most of Africa is comprised of either the Sahara desert, or hot humid tropical regions poorly suited for human habitation. In the southern part of Africa, we've seen substantial Western interest in establishing colonial regimes for habitation by white people, much more so than in central Africa or the Saharan regions.
Yes, I agree it is problematic to support Zionist Jewish nationalism while opposing white nationalism. I don't see it as completely hypocritical, because the Jews are a small minority that have suffered greatly from persecution in the past, so it is perhaps understandable why they want to build a power base. But I would prefer to see them honor their own principles, and stop the cruel, horrific apartheid regime they have established over the Palestinians.
See my post above again... a wee bit more added regarding wooden horses ...
It's not possible that i am Richard, no, but it is very possible that he could have influenced my unconscious here and there to connect and convey things to you without my awareness. It's likely no coincidence that I joined here just a day or two before he went Home, isn't it?
I hope you'll like Schauberger, I've a hunch you will.
See you next Spring!
This is quite revealing, "Zionist Jewish nationalism, ... so it is perhaps understandable why they want to build a power base"!!
.... so it appear's on the face of the statement not to live peaceably among the nation's but clearly to established "Zion" as an ethno-nation "power base" "for me" "but not for thee" "you European's" based on some irrational territorial or "resources" nonsense. The Chinese control nearly all of the rare earth metals!! https://www.timesofisrael.com/knesset-votes-contentious-jewish-nation-state-bill-into-law/ https://www.fpri.org/article/2020/10/chinas-monopoly-on-rare-earth-elements-and-why-we-should-care/ ?
Or is it to be a 'power base" (nuclear blackmail, Samson Option, etc.) to continue to create mischief within nations to destroy them as ethno-nations? https://forward.com/news/179296/jews-unite-behind-push-for-immigration-reform/ not only America, but especially Europe https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4299673,00.html.
I don't think the Han Chinese ethno-nation will comply with or allow their ethno-nation being destroyed from within or without .. https://qz.com/945053/china-has-an-irrational-fear-of-a-black-invasion-bringing-drugs-crime-and-interracial-marriage/ ...
or, is it possible the Trojan's and Menelaus are working together now? ... second "Trojan Horse", err... wooden table "new covenant" ...
It appears we are soon to get totalitarian political economy (trotskyite communism) and "messianic" monarchy (Neo-Messiah-Cyrus, aka Totalitarian Political Economic Monarchy, see definitions below, (ie. pesharim ) here in Oceania? :
"Canadian politicians in the loop of “COVID planning” have been told to their horror of a plan for a totalitarian response to an international economic collapse, involving a federal government offer to eliminate all personal debts (mortgages, loans, credit cards, etc) funded by the IMF under “the World Debt Reset program”.
In exchange the individual would forfeit ownership of any and all property and assets forever, and partake in the COVID-19 and COVID-21 vaccination schedule, which would (allegedly) allow individuals unrestricted travel and living, even under a full lock down, through the use of photo ID referred to as Canada’s HealthPass.
The horrific scenario comes from a Liberal Party of Canada (LPC) whistleblower from the party’s Strategic Planning Committee, which is under the control of Canada’s Office of the Prime Minister (PMO). He says the second wave will be hyped up with testing around the end of November.
The whistleblower warns of a “complete and total secondary lock down much stricter than the first and second rolling phase restrictions”, which is expected to run to the end of December 2020 and early January 2021." https://cairnsnews.org/2020/10/16/canadian-politician-leaks-new-covid-lockdown-plan-and-great-reset-dictatorship-australia-is-part-of-it/
Wow, the oligarchy of the Trojans and Menelaus gets all assets and property FOREVER and we get to be their borg/serf/slave's while they privatize all those benefits, property and profits while communizing all risk and losses on to the proles!! say's so right in their not so holy book: https://web.archive.org/web/20190809113313/https://www.nobeliefs.com/heaven.htm
Totalitarian Political Economic Monarchy (communism): https://www.abbevilleinstitute.org/blog/poison-under-the-wings/
Neo-Messiah-Cyrus: https://www.timesofisrael.com/who-is-king-cyrus-and-why-is-netanyahu-comparing-him-to-trump/ https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2018/october-web-only/donald-trump-cyrus-prophecy-old-testament.html)
Oceania: https://external-preview.redd.it/buzlEeQTUYo9XHk2mp8aSKHUi81kd9JjZS7VrFhADZg.png?auto=webp&s=f35d2421f5efa0fa4153b3c7bdc8a0466c849491
... it is a conspiracy site is it not, just sayin?
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Hello Erc,
Do you think there is room in the world for a cosmopolitan nation where people of any race are welcome and have equal status before the law? Why can't those of us who prefer to live that way, have the USA for our country?
https://thecanadianreport.ca/is-this-leaked-memo-really-trudeaus-covid-plan-for-2021-you-decide/
Unfortunately, the site provides no information that would help to judge the credibility of the leak, simply saying "You decide". FWIW, my gut feeling is that the scenario presented is as credible as any other prediction of the future.
https://postflaviana.org/community/index.php?threads/just-saying-whos-trumping-der-fuhrer.1548/post-9863
For Trump-Samson parallels see this thread:
https://postflaviana.org/community/index.php?threads/the-egyptian-roots-of-freemasonry-the-inner-cult-of-the-kings.2058/
And especially these two posts:
https://postflaviana.org/community/index.php?threads/the-egyptian-roots-of-freemasonry-the-inner-cult-of-the-kings.2058/post-8251
https://postflaviana.org/community/index.php?threads/the-egyptian-roots-of-freemasonry-the-inner-cult-of-the-kings.2058/post-8293
What do you think I revealed? I was expressing empathy on a humanitarian level for the Jewish desire for safety; but NOT support for the Israeli government, its apartheid policy in Palestine, or its foreign policy in the Mideast or worldwide.
If indeed the Han Chinese are racists, how does this justify Zionist racism, or white supremacist racism?
Do you think there is room in the world for a cosmopolitan nation where people of any race are welcome and have equal status before the law? Why can't those of us who prefer to live that way, have the USA for our country?
The original source of this leak traces back to this URL:
https://thecanadianreport.ca/is-this-leaked-memo-really-trudeaus-covid-plan-for-2021-you-decide/
Unfortunately, the site provides no information that would help to judge the credibility of the leak, simply saying "You decide". FWIW, my gut feeling is that the scenario presented is as credible as any other prediction of the future.
Thanks for the links. Richard was monitoring this back in 2018, though we generally think Samson is a closer type to Trump, and we predict his eventual downfall.
https://postflaviana.org/community/index.php?threads/just-saying-whos-trumping-der-fuhrer.1548/post-9863
For Trump-Samson parallels see this thread:
https://postflaviana.org/community/index.php?threads/the-egyptian-roots-of-freemasonry-the-inner-cult-of-the-kings.2058/
And especially these two posts:
https://postflaviana.org/community/index.php?threads/the-egyptian-roots-of-freemasonry-the-inner-cult-of-the-kings.2058/post-8251
https://postflaviana.org/community/index.php?threads/the-egyptian-roots-of-freemasonry-the-inner-cult-of-the-kings.2058/post-8293
We host articles claiming that the creation of the Jewish religion was the result of an Egyptian government conspiracy; that the Christian New Testament was written as Roman wartime propaganda, and that Trump is intentionally carrying out a Samson scenario. Is it a conspiracy site, or is it not?? "You decide...."!!
A) Not exactly the whole truth, ... who was Josephus? It was written as Kenite-Midianite (Who was Jethro? (1,2) )--Aeneas Flavian oligarchy propaganda (ie."Trojan-Menelaus" oligarchy (3) over the bargaining "trojan horse" ) ... for their "Lawd of Doubles" (4).
The Flavian oligarch's would not have been able to create the OT-NT pesherim by themselves... and yes Egyptian influence (ie. R1b Akhenaten and the Nasorean Essene (5) and see (3) of which you should read all the way through)
(B) Regarding the Sampson option scenario: Who are Cyrus' handler's (1,2)? What does plata o plomo mean? We know Samson was a Danite (who is Sampson's "Delilah" a metaphor? similarly as who Helen is a metphor (3) ) , ... it' possible Trump is too, (maternally https://www.britam.org/dan.html, aka Mycenaean Danoi (see the "Trojan Horse" story (3)) also under "Delilah's" persuasion?
C) What about Zionist supremacism? I thought there were no "races" or "ethnicities", ... well according to Franz Uri Boas, but I digress ... To intentionally put in place policy to destroy any racialist ethno-nation's is RACISM and ethnocide, and is a form of 4GW!!! Why does Zion get a pass, "victimhood"(?), please what balderdash!! How bout the Irish and Ireland? Why should their tiny nation island and land be flooded with foreigner's? They were slaves of the Trojan's at one time. How bout the Poles and Poland, even the name slave comes from their "slav" peoples being enslaved, especially their women...
Speaking of Zionist supremacism, Many including the Han Chinese don't subscribe to this point of view of Zionist supremacy as discussed in the not so holy book and here: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/23629443-when-a-jew-rules-the-world
(1) https://isthatinthebible.wordpress.com/2016/02/05/the-origins-of-yahweh-and-the-revived-kenite-hypothesis/
(2) https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/23824676-killing-moses
(3) http://www.angelfire.com/hi5/cubaqui/
(4) https://psalmistice.com/2017/03/13/the-lawd-of-doubles/ https://sacred-texts.com/mas/sof/sof26.htm
https://psalmistice.com/2018/07/04/italian-professors-confirm-outright-false-accounting-and-double-nature-of-bank-money/
(5) https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1080724.The_Mystery_of_the_Copper_Scroll_of_Qumran
"You decide...."!!
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Learned it from your old buddy Joseph ;-) :: https://www.spreaker.com/user/11385457/powers-principalities-episode-174_1
I agree with you and Joseph, very credible prediction of the future, and a very "dark winter" coming ... indeed... PS, Elliottwave Theory shows that the collapse of the usury system and it's markets was going to happen regardless of the Covid Op (which is something else altogether, ie. totalitarian global political economy monarchy to continue in oligarchical hands no matter what!!) ... https://deflation.com/
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Why would you expect me to encapsulate the whole truth into a single phrase? And, the Flavians were Roman emperors, right? If they partnered with Jewish and/or Kenite authors, how does that deflect their responsibility?
Sorry, but I've already explained the issue I have with this. I have concerns about the author's religious bias, I'm willing to give it a "pass" on my earlier charge of anti-Semitism, but mainly I'm concerned that the author makes one assertion after another, with never any sources or justification.
I don't know, why don't you explain it to me?
Yeah, whatabout it? Where have I said one single word in favor of Zionist supremacism? Whatabout that chip on your shoulder?
These are fuzzy concepts. Barack Obama, what is he, black or white? Kamala Harris, African or Indian? It's only when you try to use race as a system of categorical organization that you end in absurdities.
This makes me curious if you deny that the European Jews were either massacred by the Hitler regime, or else deported to Siberia where they were massacred by the Soviets (as per Sanning's alternate narrative)? In either case the victimhood of the Jewish people is a historical fact. Which is not to downplay the suffering of the Polish or Irish.
Indeed, Whatabout that chip on your shoulder?!
anti-Polishism”, or even anti-Aryanism ... ever! ... “chips on shoulders” ... please .. bitch like little girls ... and they don’t meddle in the internal affairs of other nations ... fact!
And I’m well aware of the “We host articles claiming that the creation of the Jewish religion was the result of an Egyptian government conspiracy (ie. dialectic, crook (“shepard’s”) and flail (terror)! ) ” ... but unfortunately we are heading for a “dark winter” of immoral totalitarian political economy monarchy (1) in what Eric Blair predicted as Oceania... the only out as I see it is sovereign moral political economy that protects individual property as well as the natural rights of the racialist ethno-nation (anarcho-nationalism). See Gottfried Feder on soveriegn nation moral political economy. It is the only way to prevent dehumanization borgification (ie. anti-Amenism/anti-Sophia for some unnatural transsexual transmogrifying deity with no name!) ..
‘The insidious programming of the oligarchical usury communist matrix beholding to no kinship (kinship can only occur via families, ie. Male and Female, cannot occur with transsexualism, which is promotion of ethnocide and genocide, ie. 4th and 5th generational warfare, in the old days it was called “fifth columns”) or nation suppresses racial identity and seeks to pasteurize all peoples into a raceless, rootless mass of homogenous humatons (trotskyite neocon corporate (ie. All borgs of the corporations) hierarchical communist oligarchical monarchy, aka Rollerball). The reality of divine oneness is falsely invoked to legitimize this dehumanization, with the cant that if All are One we should live together in peace and brotherhood forever. The truth is that there is no contradiction between the oneness of Supernal Spirit, which underlies all creation, and the infinite variety of separate forms and beings which it spawns (via the Goddess Spohia/Isis/Mater/matter). In fact if all went back to unity, it would be the end of the cosmos, and our individuation via the Goddess Isis/Sophia. (yes the gnostics are cucks too!)
Spiritual enlightenment awakens an individual to the love of God for all beings, called Caritas. We have also awakened to the reality of racial identity; from this arises another kind of love, the deep primordial philos that binds together a family, clan, or tribe. Again there is no contradiction: enlightened white individuals have philial feelings exclusively for their racial kindred, and this does not diminish their Caritas for all humanity. Awareness of the overarching unity gives us the wisdom to draw the line of separation exactly where it’s needed. Dharma requires strong boundaries on every front!’
(1) https://psalmistice.com/2017/03/13/the-lawd-of-doubles/ https://sacred-texts.com/mas/sof/sof26.htm
https://psalmistice.com/2018/07/04/italian-professors-confirm-outright-false-accounting-and-double-nature-of-bank-money/
You don’t ever hear the Irish or the Pole‘s screaming “anti-Irishism“ or
anti-Polishism”, or even anti-Aryanism ... ever! ... “chips on shoulders” ... please .. bitch like little girls ... and they don’t meddle in the internal affairs of other nations ... fact!
And I’m well aware of the “We host articles claiming that the creation of the Jewish religion was the result of an Egyptian government conspiracy (ie. dialectic, crook (“shepard’s”) and flail (terror)! ) ” ... but unfortunately we are heading for a “dark winter” of immoral totalitarian political economy monarchy (1) in what Eric Blair predicted as Oceania... the only out as I see it is sovereign moral political economy that protects individual property as well as the natural rights of the racialist ethno-nation (anarcho-nationalism). See Gottfried Feder on soveriegn nation moral political economy. It is the only way to prevent dehumanization borgification (ie. anti-Amenism/anti-Sophia for some unnatural transsexual transmogrifying deity with no name!) ..
‘The insidious programming of the oligarchical usury communist matrix beholding to no kinship (kinship can only occur via families, ie. Male and Female, cannot occur with transsexualism, which is promotion of ethnocide and genocide, ie. 4th and 5th generational warfare, in the old days it was called “fifth columns”) or nation suppresses racial identity and seeks to pasteurize all peoples into a raceless, rootless mass of homogenous humatons (trotskyite neocon corporate (ie. All borgs of the corporations) hierarchical communist oligarchical monarchy, aka Rollerball). The reality of divine oneness is falsely invoked to legitimize this dehumanization, with the cant that if All are One we should live together in peace and brotherhood forever. The truth is that there is no contradiction between the oneness of Supernal Spirit, which underlies all creation, and the infinite variety of separate forms and beings which it spawns (via the Goddess Spohia/Isis/Mater/matter). In fact if all went back to unity, it would be the end of the cosmos, and our individuation via the Goddess Isis/Sophia. (yes the gnostics are cucks too!)
Spiritual enlightenment awakens an individual to the love of God for all beings, called Caritas. We have also awakened to the reality of racial identity; from this arises another kind of love, the deep primordial philos that binds together a family, clan, or tribe. Again there is no contradiction: enlightened white individuals have philial feelings exclusively for their racial kindred, and this does not diminish their Caritas for all humanity. Awareness of the overarching unity gives us the wisdom to draw the line of separation exactly where it’s needed. Dharma requires strong boundaries on every front!’
(1) https://psalmistice.com/2017/03/13/the-lawd-of-doubles/ https://sacred-texts.com/mas/sof/sof26.htm
https://psalmistice.com/2018/07/04/italian-professors-confirm-outright-false-accounting-and-double-nature-of-bank-money/
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I have no idea what you're talking about. No chip on my shoulder!! Just doing my job as the moderator....
Actually the Irish and Polish have both been subject to racist hatred. If they aren't screaming about it, maybe they should be.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Irish_sentiment
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Polish_sentiment
So if you were being consistent here, you would want to protect the rights of Israel (as a racialist ethno-nation)? Again I ask, what about the right to live in a cosmopolitan, diverse society?
On the one hand I don't support the promotion of transsexualism and homosexuality by billionaire or government mass media or institutions. On the other hand, it's important to respect and protect the rights of transsexual or homosexual individuals. Do you agree?