Postflavians Confront Anti-Semitism and Anti-Judaism

lorenhough

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howdy

but if we look we may find. there in the mix. the pope the queen the bankers and there family and friends and the ones we don't know you know you know you are near the top of the most powerful and as prince Philip would say there is just to many people and he would come back as a plague to kill them off, means there is a war on the people of the earth that are getting fuk u shima in red in stone gmo pestisides floride loss of bees war vacines school duming us down to be good slaves and the mind control media and religions, drugs sex no children save the earth, see no future with us 500,000,ooo is the plan with the highest tec cites trains etc remember bush 1 getting knighted by the queen? there anti-people

good stuff jerry and Richard I am glad you are here .. we are all in the same boat. though Fiji is a small dot far away from it all, cant tell you how wonderful any one that wants to come see I greet you at the airport.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/22/books/review/gods-bankers-by-gerald-posner.html?_r=0
 
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Jerry Russell

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Posner's book on the JFK assassination, 'Case Closed', is the most notorious white-wash in the history of JFK investigations, second only to the Warren Commission report.

A critique of the book is here:

http://assassinationweb.com/ecc.htm

Wikipedia reports that Posner is Catholic and went to Jesuit high school at St. Ignatius College Prep.

So now he's writing an 'expose' of Catholic banking?? Hmm, where there's smoke, there's fire....
 
Hi Jer:

You wrote:

"We also know a great deal about the genealogies of the elite, and in many cases these genealogies can be traced back five or ten generations without finding any Jews,"

This statement is complete nonsense. If a group is hiding its ethnicity - as Jews are in fact known to have done - going back ten generation will reveal nothing.

We need DNA evidence not hot air.

Joe
 
Jer:
To your point:

"I don't remember any stories about the Rothschilds leaving their wealth equally to all Jews in order to elevate their status."

Didn't they promote and fund the state of Israel?

Joe
 

Richard Stanley

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This statement is complete nonsense. If a group is hiding its ethnicity - as Jews are in fact known to have done - going back ten generation will reveal nothing.
Would you assert that this ability to hide its ethnicity is a unique genetic ability, or that it is driven by culture. A synthetically inverted (Mosiac) culture that pervades their mindset regardless of internal polity and other schisms?
Didn't they promote and fund the state of Israel?
Isn't this culture driven in any case. Do you believe that their (yours and mine) bible is an artifact of culture first and foremost.

Didn't the Jesuits create and promote the Futurist End Times school, and at the same time create and promote the Preterist End Times School? As an answer to the Protestants regarding the nature of the Antichrist?

If the Futurist School is to be fulfilled, maybe the Rothschild sponsorship of Zion was in doing the bidding of their masters? How else do you expect Space Jesus to come without the proper tribulation?
Rick

No.

Joe
This comparison project was your idea, and now we are having a discussion without your taking a position? Do you at least agree on the acronym?

r
 

Jerry Russell

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Hi Joe,

If a group is hiding its ethnicity - as Jews are in fact known to have done - going back ten generation will reveal nothing.
The prototypical example of the Crypto-Jew phenomenon would be the Sephardic Jews of Spain who continued to practice Judaism in secret, while claiming to have converted to Christianity. If any such Crypto-Jews were detected in their duplicity, they were likely to be immediately executed.

Emilia Bassano and Ignatius Loyola would be examples of individuals who might very well have been Crypto, although never definitively nailed as such.

However, in no case could these Cryptos hide their racial / genetic background! Everybody knew they were descended from Sephardic Jews. I might even say that although they hid their religion, pretending to have changed it, they could not hide their 'ethnicity'.

To your point:

"I don't remember any stories about the Rothschilds leaving their wealth equally to all Jews in order to elevate their status."

Didn't they promote and fund the state of Israel?
Yes they did, but such funding did not necessarily trickle down in any significant way to the Jewish hoi polloi. According to the SSM model, this funding was primarily to make a land grab for the purposes of promoting Anglo-American interests in the Middle East.
 

Richard Stanley

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According to the SSM model, this funding was primarily to make a land grab for the purposes of promoting Anglo-American interests in the Middle East.
Yes, that's true, but this may only be the surface cover narrative.

John D. Rockefeller, possible genetic input to Bubba Clinton, was a Baptist Sunday School teacher. These people generally support Zionism, but for a different cultural reason than the Jew's cultural reason. Namely, the evangelicals (CryptoCatholicism in my book) support this as part of the Futurist End Times scenario that, not so ironically, the Jesuits articulated. The Rockefeller's are generally considered to be under the Rothschild financial umbrella.

The Jews, especially in Israel are quite aware of the evangelical's ghoulish intent, but because the Jewish sheep, at least, have not yet figured out the SSM (except for maybe the likes of Sand) they are stuck in this mental prison along with those goy (nationalists) adherents of the CCM.
 

Richard Stanley

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Based upon the extremely bloody nature of traditionalist Catholic reaction to social reforms in Spain, Latin America, Vietnam, etc. I find the whole notion of such traditionalists meekly accepting a rogue Jewish Cuckoo Coup (the basis for the CCM), at any point in time, rather hilarious.

This is why I must accept Joe's rejection of my first notion of a rogue operation to spread LSD. Instead my second synthesis is much stronger, i.e. that it fits with the co-optation of individuals' pre-existing predilections, to be used to engineer a reformed society amenable to the desired global integration (via cultural means). This underlying oligarchic motivation understood from the lessons of Alexander and Akhenaton. They made and own America, and now they want to remodel it for exigent circumstances, the bleating of the deluded sheep be damned.
 

Richard Stanley

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Joe, do you agree with the following notion? What does this say about the impact of "culture"?

From Hadas's Hellenistic Culture pp. 42 - 44:

... Organized opposition [to Hellenization], where it occurred, was motivated not by antipathy to hellenism but by normal desire for independence or by the ambition of rivals for power. ...

The one rebellion which has been recorded in history as directed against hellenism, that of the Maccabees in Judea, was not, in its origin, a reaction against hellenism. 41 From the contemporary or almost contemporary accounts in I and II Maccabees it is clear that hellenism had proceeded very far indeed, and apparently without protest, before the insurrection began, Violence started in consequence of rivalry between equally hellenized contenders for the high priesthood, and religion was not an issue. The standard of religion was raised in the countryside, and then served to rally the people to the cause. It was only after religion had become the battle cry of the rebels that Antiochus IV issued his decrees against the observance of central religious rites, and it is highly significant that as soon as the anti-religious decrees were rescinded the pietist group withdrew from the fighting. The object of the Hasmonean rulers was not to protect religion---their bitterest opponents were pietists---but to maintain a sovereignty which should be able to hold its head up among others which were being carved out of the weakened Seleucid empire. They were permitted to do so as the price of their support of one or another rival to the Seleucid succession. Neither the nationalists nor even their opposition objected to hellenism as such; both parties, as we shall see, borrowed freely from Greek political and literary models. Among the Jews as among the other self-conscious peoples in the Seleucid empire the controlling principle was something like "Accept the largest possible measure of hellenization and retain the greatest possible measure of loyalty to the native tradition." Obviously the simultaneous pursuit of discrepant objectives necessitated compromise or self-deception. ...
Address : <http://postflaviana.org/community/index.php?threads/maccabees-populist-jews-or-elitist-manipulators.1222/#post-2311>
Is it interesting to you that the elite Jews (before Jesus's and Titus's time) had aligned themselves with the notion of Hellenization's efforts at harmonization, centrally focused on cultural aspects? What has changed in your CCM?

How would you equate the cultural engineering project of Hellenization with the cultural engineering project of the Mosaic inversions, in terms of scale or otherwise? And then onto the cultural engineering project of the gentil in slipstreaming Jesus onto the backs of the pagans (not gentile - meaning elite, or goyim - meaning nations) over a course of centuries.

r
 

Richard Stanley

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Hi Jer:

You wrote:

"We also know a great deal about the genealogies of the elite, and in many cases these genealogies can be traced back five or ten generations without finding any Jews,"

This statement is complete nonsense. If a group is hiding its ethnicity - as Jews are in fact known to have done - going back ten generation will reveal nothing.

We need DNA evidence not hot air.

Joe
Ye who skateth on thin rime perforce must deflecteth the huffs that melteth their precarious perch.

There is a principle known as the preponderance of evidence, on which you are revealing that your only defense of the CCM variant of the traditionalist cultural construct is DNA, which you know that you are unlikely ever to obtain, critically from the most elite.

It is classically acknowledged that Air is the most powerful of the four elements. It sometimes issues forth from the fingered pens and keyboards to yon paper and monitors, before the Air is spoken forth from the lips of actors and thespians such. The greatest of which is Gwyneth Paltrow. All hail Gwyneth. She is indeed HOT.

r
 
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lorenhough

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Jun 19, 2016
20 min starts talking about Jewish identity; [Power]
Gilad writes on political matters, social issues, Jewish identity and culture. His papers are published on very many press outlets around the world. Here is just a short list of his recent publications: World News, Press Tv, Rebelion, The Daily Telegraph, Uprooted Palestinians, Veterans Today, Palestine Telegraph, Counterpunch, Dissident Voice, Aljazeera Magazine, Information Clearing House, Middle-East-Online, Palestine Chronicle, The People Voice, Redress, Shoa (The Palestinian Holocaust) , The Guardian, transcend and many more.
Jewish Identity Politics With Gilad Atzmon cut from his website ..

http://www.thevinnyeastwoodshow.com/s...

Gilad Atzmon www.gilad.co.uk
An incredible discussion with a musician and non-fiction author explaining that Jewish History is just a chain of holocausts with a few tea breaks and how they select certain cultures to be their destroyer.


June 14-15, 2016. Dr. Hans Utter joins Joe Atwill and Jan Irvin to continue their discussion on the history of FM radio, networks, and the intel community. cut from video
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authoritarian_personality

can we ask if jews have the same Problem with the Palestinians
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Authoritarian_Personality
cut from the above; Frankfurt School", a predominantly Jewish[7] group of philosophers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_School


joe brings up the authoritarian Personality book ..just came out hope you like this on mass mind control and how it is working today lh
 
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Jerry Russell

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Gilad Atzmon has been accused of errors such as anti-semitism, holocaust denial, and so forth. So I was concerned when Loren posted this video. I found this seemingly even-handed review of his book, arguing that he's not guilty.

http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/02/01/the-case-of-gilad-atzmon/

But, now I've listened to the podcast, and I do feel that Atzmon and Eastwood, the host, are anti-Jewish. Basically, they don't acknowledge any distinction between elite Jews and the vast majority of other Jews, they exaggerate the power of Jews in context with other elites, and they put the onus solely on the Jews for their own problems. This is inflammatory and divisive rhetoric, rather than constructive analysis.
 
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lorenhough

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https://redice.tv/red-ice-tv/red-ice-live-the-final-solution-to-white-people

This is an excerpt from the second episode of “Weekend Warrior,” a live show exclusively for Red Ice members. Henrik & Lana discuss the genocidal comments casually made on Anthony Bourdain's show, Parts Unknown where he provides the 'only solution' to White people. Then, they play a trip Anthony took to Israel exploring his Jewish roots.

Watch the entire episode here
to solve Germany Problems with Arabs raping they should all mix?
maybe jews should mix with Arabs to bring Peace to Israel LH
 
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lorenhough

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gentile

next you will here joe on the Jewish question; and anti gentile


cut from you tube above
Joseph Atwill is an independent scholar who has set the world of New Testament scholarship in a new direction. In his book Caesar's Messiah, Atwill outlines the series of events in Jesus' ministry that are parallels with the events of the battle campaign of Titus Flavius. He returns to discuss his latest work, Shakespeare's Secret Messiah. Continuing his exposé on the New Testament, Atwill demonstrates that the thrust behind the famous playwright's work was to wreak literary revenge against Titus, Rome and Christians. Joseph explains how the plays are a reversing of the typology of the gospels, from a Jewish perspective. The Bard's hidden war on the Roman Catholic Church, encoded in 'puzzle passages' in the plays, is the key that finally unlocks the true identity of 'Shakespeare,' explaining why the real author chose to hide behind a pseudonym. In the second hour, we'll discuss how religion was used as part of the futile system. We also talk about A Course in Miracles, the 60's hippie movement and entertainment as mind control ops that are part of today's slave system. Then, we'll continue on neo-feudalist techniques going on today. Later, we talk about deliberate actions aimed at destroying the west and the current vengeance on the European people.
 

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Henrik Holmgren spoke with Joe about having us back on his show again, but we told him we wanted to ask some questions about why he uses neo-Nazi symbolism such as the Black Sun prominently on his website, and about his support for white nationalism. I guess Henrik didn't want to discuss those sort of topics, he decided not to have us back after all.
 

lorenhough

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Prime minster Mahatir says Jews rule the world. How? find out

https://www.google.com/#q=jews+rule+the+world+Prime+Minister+Mahatir

right after that to Planes go down from is country mmmmm what uP with that? says texe marrs here;
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lorenhough

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Jews_and_Their_Lies

cut from above, they tried to keep this from you but here it is for you,
On the Jews and Their Lies
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Title page of Martin Luther's On the Jews and Their Lies. Wittenberg, 1543
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On the Jews and Their Lies (German: Von den Jüden und iren Lügen; in modern spelling Von den Juden und ihren Lügen) is a 65,000-word anti-Judaic treatise written in 1543 by the German Reformation leader Martin Luther.

Luther's attitude toward the Jews took different forms during his lifetime. In his earlier period, until 1537 or not much earlier, he wanted to convert Jews to Christianity, but failed. In his later period when he wrote this particular treatise, he denounced them and urged their persecution.[1]

In the treatise, he argues that Jewish synagogues and schools be set on fire, their prayer books destroyed, rabbis forbidden to preach, homes burned, and property and money confiscated. They should be shown no mercy or kindness,[2] afforded no legal protection,[3] and these "poisonous envenomed worms" should be drafted into forced labor or expelled for all time.[4] He also seems to advocate their murder, writing "[w]e are at fault in not slaying them".\
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In the treatise, Luther describes Jews as a "base, whoring people, that is, no people of God, and their boast of lineage, circumcision, and law must be accounted as filth."[6] Luther wrote that they are "full of the devil's feces ... which they wallow in like swine,"[7] and the synagogue is an "incorrigible whore and an evil slut".[8]\\

the man you puts it to the pope puts it to the Jewish leaders who hate you lh

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lorenhough

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