Phoenicia and Ancient Spooks

Sgt Pepper

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@Jerry Russell and @Richard Stanley , this four part series kinda touches upon your theory of the structure of Western Civilization.
The author says:
[…] I will attempt to show that the ancestors of today’s spooks were not the nomadic Ancient Hebrews, but another people, well known in fact, whom I shall start out by calling the “Ancient Spookians”. Ancient Israel appears to have been merely set up by them, and was and is only one of their fronts.

Part I: The pun factor in spookery
Part II: Spookish relations
Part III: Link to a spooky past
Part IV: Spookdom’s trail into history
 
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Richard Stanley

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Thx Sarge. This does indeed look to be very compatible with our take on matters, albeit I might quibble with the term 'Jew', which I see as something of a shibboleth, or a Briar Patch of sorts.

And now we can decrypt all the other rules: A Nazir must abstain from alcohol, because he could give himself away when he’s drunk.

I have identified Donald Trump as a Nazir ala Samson, and here we should note that Trump abstains from alcohol. I don't remember the Wikipedia link on Nazir to report the three different types, so I'll have to see if that was a late addition.

And it's very interesting to see that Joseph is accorded this term as well, on which I have made much of the story in Genesis 47, manipulating the markets and making everyone slaves.
 

Richard Stanley

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thx Sarge.

I've only just started into it, so it will take me a little while. I think the bull on Page 3 is Apis, because there is a cobra 'uraeus' in front of the solar disc. I think Miles is generally correct about the connection with the 'Minoans', there definitely was a strong link between them and the city of Ugarit. But, there are strong linkages between them and the Egyptians as well.

It is quite a puzzle sorting out these Semitic and Aryan identities, especially with our red-headed friends in the midst of such as the Phoenicians.
 

Sgt Pepper

Active Member
From https://phoenicia.org/
Salim is from Shalim, Phoenician god of dusk, whose place was Urushalim/Jerusalem
"A Bequest Unearthed, Phoenicia" — Encyclopedia Phoeniciana


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shalim
Shalim (Šalām, Shalem, Salem, and Salim) is a god in the Canaanite religion pantheon, mentioned in inscriptions found in Ugarit (Ras Shamra) in Syria.[1][2] William F. Albright identified Shalim as the god of dusk and Shahar as god of the dawn.[3] In the Dictionary of Deities and Demons in the Bible, Shalim is also identified as the deity representing Venus or the "Evening Star" and Shahar the "Morning Star".[1] His name derives from the triconsonantal Semitic root S-L-M. The city of Jerusalem was named after him and the biblical King Solomon may also have been.[4]

Ugaritic inscriptions
A Ugaritic myth known as The Gracious and Most Beautiful Gods, describes Shalim and his brother Shahar as offspring of El through two women he meets at the seashore. They are both nursed by "The Lady", likely Anat (Athirat or Asherah), and have appetites as large as "(one) lip to the earth and (one) lip to the heaven." In other Ugaritic texts, the two are associated with the sun goddess.[1]

Another inscription is a sentence repeated three times in a para-mythological text, "Let me invoke the gracious gods, the voracious gods of ym." Ym in most Semitic languages means "day," and Shalim and Shahar, twin deities of the dusk and dawn, were conceived of as its beginning and end.[5]

Shalim is also mentioned separately in the Ugaritic god lists and forms of his name also appear in personal names, perhaps as a divine name or epithet.[1]

Many scholars believe that the name of Shalim is preserved in the name of the city Jerusalem.[1][6][7][8] The god Shalim may have been associated with dusk and the evening star in the etymological senses of a "completion" of the day, "sunset" and "peace".[9]
 

Richard Stanley

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It's curious to me that 'ym' can be 'day' and that 'yam' is god of the sea in Canaanite, which was also transformed into meaning something like 'monster of the sea' in the OT.
 
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