Part 1, the Futurist Apocalypse is Now

Richard Stanley

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The following is from an interview with Jared Diamond regarding his latest book, Upheaval, where he predicts a 49% chance that the world as we know it will end by 2050. Of course, I am targeting 2070, and that the PTB have already started the scripted countdown, but whose quibbling?

Well, it may be a narrative that suggests itself to me because I’m thinking of Guns, Germs and Steel, Collapse, and this new one, Upheaval, but for me it’s interesting to note that each of them arrived when they did in a particular cultural, intellectual moment. That begins with Guns, Germs and Steel — it’s obviously a quite nuanced historical survey, but it was also read coming out when it did, as a kind of explanation for Western dominance of the planet …
I would say you’re giving me more credit than I deserve. But one-third of the credit that you give me I do deserve. And that’s for Collapse. Guns, Germs and Steel, I don’t see it as triumphalist at all.
No, I don’t either. I don’t mean to say that. But it met the moment of Western triumphalism in our culture, I think.
The fact is that you and I are speaking English. We’re not speaking Algonquin and there are reasons for that. I don’t see that as a triumph of the English language. I see it as the fact of how history turned out, and that’s what Guns, Germs and Steel is about. ...

I have not read Guns, Germs, and Steel, so I don't know if he discusses any religious component of the Western dominance as we do here.
 
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Emma Robertson

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Hi Richard and group,

I just arrived at your website and joined the forum, as I have a lot to contribute and I also hope to understand more with your help.

Emma Robertson is not my real name, for safety reasons, and I am not American, so please forgive my English.

I have been researching the topic of end times fake replay for about 18 years now and you are the first people, besides a couple of friends, that I have found who are aware of this.
I don't have a website because my research has been ongoing and I have fallen in many traps before coming to my present understanding, so before putting it all out I want to be sure I don't spread more disinformation to the existing enourmous amount.

Recently, I read Atwill's books, which have helped me a lot to progress in my researches.

I have some experience in scriptures, quite a lot of experience in channelings, ET matters and new age religion and I believed in Jesus for many years before realizing he never existed. I also believed in ETs before realizing that they do not exist. I have been able to link all these cross-field matters together to see the bigger plan that lies behind them all (or at least a part of it), which I will be happy to share with you.

In this post I would like to comment on your article as I believe I have some important clues to share, according to what certain preachers say:

"And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father’s name written in their foreheads. And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps: And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth. (Revelation 14:1-3 KJV)"

This is something yet to happen and it pertains to the 7 years tribulation times just prior the ascent of the Antichrist and during it.
(the "real" Antichrist is yet to come, all these who are called antichrist today are just decoys, or false messiah, to make the deception thicker, as it must be according to the plot, as at the end times Jesus warns there will be many false prophets.)

144.000 is just a symbolic number, not literal. They are the army of God to counteract the Antichrist's world religion, when he forces people to take the mark of the beast to be worshipped. They are not Jews, they are Christians, as Christians are the new Jews, after the Jews rejected Jesus, as Jesus sais to them: "you are the new Jews". So the imagery of mount Sion is simbolic, not literal, as all the Book of Revelation is symbolic.
They will be the first to ascend, and will come back with Jesus as the Saints.

The song from heaven that looks like a new song is the gospel, the original gospel preached by Jesus, that people have misinterpreted and altered along the centuries. So it is necessary to state it once again, stating clearly the ten commandments again. This army of believers, the only ones who are able or willing to learn the original gospel received from God, are sent out to preach it during the tribulation time, as the voice of Truth, to bring people back to God and not be deceived by the false religion and trap of Satan. They are sealed on the front with the seal of God, as opposed to the mark of the beast. By preaching the original gospel they will whisper the voice of God "get out of the harlot", that is the antichrist church, destined to damn all people adhering to it.

At the end times people must either believe one or the other. Those who sit on the fence, not chosing, if they are not killed by the Antichrist will have a chance to convert during the millenial reign of Jesus. The preachers who deny the millenial reign do not give any chance to those sitting on the fence, they will just be judget and go to hell, because who is not with Christ is against Christ, as he said.

The two religions will be clearly different by the fact that the original gospel requires to worship God and do not work on Saturday, as one of his 10 commandments, going back to the original Sabbath, the day the Jews dedicated to God. The Antichrist will impose worship on Sunday, as it is now, and will persecute all those worshipping on Saturday and refusing to work on Saturday. You probably know that the Antichrist will get all the bibles burned and persecute those who are seen praying and reading it. The Pope will run from Rome and the Antichrist will sit of Saint Peters trone. But that is all a big decoy to pretend that the Christians are being persecuted, as a real antichrist would do.

Jesus tells believers better to be killed than receive the mark of the beast. Because if they try to save their life they will lose their soul.

And those who take the mark of the beast? It will be God to make them die together with the Antichrist, with some huge earthquake or things like that. All the evil servants of Satan will be reached wherever they are, even if they hide underground, and will die unless they truly repent (which is a good excuse as you can guess to justify that people who have oppressed us will still be alive at the end of the apocalipse)

As you can see all the ploy is an giant stage to have people accept to die or accept all these murders, one way or the other, believing that justice is accomplished.

It has been provided a justification why God is so categorical and will send to hell those who accept the mark of the beast: because this mark will be some sort of genetical modifier, a virus, transforming people in nephilim,, which obviously won't be true, but we will be convinced it is, probably through actors transforming into evil beings or changing features (we have had a lot of horror movies to prepare the way).

The story of nephilims which is being spread is another invention, fruit of a deliberate interpretation of scriptures: they are said to be offsprings of fallen angels having mated with human women back in the old testament times. They were wiped out with the great deluge (never happened a deluge on world scale) by God, because they were evil and had corruped all humans, except Noah's family.

Now Satan has changed strategy, and to corrupt human DNA with his, he will inject a virus, that will be the mark of the beast. In this way he will ensure that people don't get eternal salvation as they will no longer be human, so they will have the same destiny as his: burning to hell. He never accepted that God had created man in his image, he hates humans, and he hates God for having been condemned to hell.

God will wipe out from the earth those who have taken the mark of the beast to avoid further contamination. There is a big enfasis on our times being the same as at Noah's time, with the need of a cleansing, through cinematography as well.
The mark of the beast will be just the culmination of Satan's corruption perpetrated in the last centuries (exactly starting with the industrial revolution in 18th century, but that is material for another post).

These are the fairy tales that modern believers are being told.

I have more to comment on the article, but I think it is enough for now.

Thanks for reading, and if you have questions or objections I will try to answer, or that will be a good way to deepen my research.

Emma
 

Richard Stanley

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Hi Emma, welcome to Postflaviana.

I'm always interested in new information and ways to look at this subject, at least since my coming to realize what this is all about.

The article does not fully convey Jerry's and my wider views found elsewhere on the blog and forum, many or most of which, IMHO, link directly or indirectly to this topic. For instance, I am currently working on examining some of author Ralph Ellis's books that discuss that there was indeed an historical man (not a god-man) that represents the Biblical 'Jesus', discussed cryptically by Flavius Josephus (aka Saul/Paul). So while Jesus (of Nazareth -- and Nazareth itself) didn't exist, this other human did, and Josephus went to considerable lengths to encrypt his identity, while he could have otherwise made it easier on himself to just write this person out of history altogether.

Is it safe to assume when you mention Satan and AntiChrist later in your post that you are speaking metaphorically as well, and/or that these are similar narrative constructs as 'Jesus of Nazareth'?
 

Emma Robertson

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Hi Richard,

yes of course, Satan and AntiChrist are fantasy characters that we are being sold as real. Somebody will impersonate phisically the AntiChrist character tough, to make the fiction real.
 

Emma Robertson

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Actually the Dragon represents Satan in current interpretations of Book of Revelations, while the two Beasts are said to be the False Prophet and the Antichrist itself....but these are details that I don't think matter much :rolleyes:.
 

CplCam

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I think the important point here is that our cult-ure of elite enrichment at the expense of the common man is destined to Drag On until that same common man can be induced to question his own Christian faith at least to the point of not sending his social security checks to millionaire televangelists...
 

Richard Stanley

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I mean who needs one beast (let alone two) when you have plenty of American Christians who are already happy to explain how these people "got what they deserved for trying to cross our border?"
Good question. Especially when matters are turning so ugly, it seems inadequate to be discussing ancient religious narrative as a driver for what we're seeing.

Yet, as I discovered about the Nazi phenomenon, they used very similar circumstances to generate that 'apocalypse', with the Jewish foil carried forward 2,000 years. In this sense Hitler was a false messiah. He was the perceived messiah for the Nazis. Besides WWII putting things in play for today, perhaps we can perceive that as a trial run for what's happening now. A test to see if the mass psychology works as desired and decide whether to make any tweaks.

Unfortunately, religious or not, the common man, and even most educated folk, are not willing to consider that our various leaders are willing to manipulate them using Machiavellian ploys. Here, Trump has publicly admitted that his cutting off aid funds to the three Central American nations most involved have indeed increased the numbers of their citizens desperately crossing the border. Is this not creating the problem(s) so that one can appear to provide solutions or claim to? But even his public admission of doing so is getting drowned out by the daily barrage of depravity coming out of the White House.

The dark value of these religious scripts is that they not only act upon the mindsets of the true-believers, but if the scripts are followed the actions take place in the secular world and drive the secular herds of human sheep ... who don't realize they are being manipulated in such a fashion. It's all presented to them as being organically driven, in this case, by the apparent actions of an egomaniac. And egomaniac with handlers.
 

Richard Stanley

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I mean who needs one beast (let alone two) when you have plenty of American Christians who are already happy to explain how these people "got what they deserved for trying to cross our border?"
I was thinking about this some more, and while I share that same frustration, I am perhaps too guilty of not stating nearly enough that this phenomenon is the result of the mass psychology employed by the elites, which Jerry and I call the Shepherds, against the common people, the Sheep. While the Abrahamic religions can be seen as forms of super-tribes in one respect, via the inherent duality (globalist vs. nationalism) that I've recently discussed, the chauvinistic tribal aspects were merely transposed from the primitive localities to higher levels. And these aspects are weaponized just the same, ... well even more systematically.

While the three religions (even Judaism in its proselytizing phases) appear in one sense, from their rhetoric, to transcend geographical bounds, even the prophecies (script in my POV) of Daniel are explicit that the symbology refers to the rise and fall of nations and empires. Like recent forum discussions here, so-called Christian and Islamic nations are more synthetic cultural constructs, just as we've identified Judaism to have been. The original 'converts' to those religions did so because of the underlying pressures applied, frequently bloody pressure -- as they themselves documented. It's only much later that 'we' arise from our literal cradles and assume that for various cultural reasons that our particular social construct is superior, ordained by some god or whatever.

As the Romantic Movement of the 18th Century developed (with no proof), these 'racial' and national notions spring organically from 'Blood and Soil'. As I've discussed before, this concept was the very first 'intellectual' product that sprang from the very first 'modern' university (Gottingen) thanks to the Hanoverian king of England, George II.

Just a few days ago I read the following, which demonstrates that more higher 'education' doesn't necessarily help us in correctly perceiving the thinking of those in the opposite political camp. In many cases, it seems to amplify the problem. I'm guessing that is because each political camp has become entrenched in its own assumptions, no longer in communication with the other.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/06/republicans-and-democrats-dont-understand-each-other/592324/

There are real problems being experienced by the lower stratas of White society, but our political and religious leaders do not seem properly engaged in addressing those specific concerns, for various reasons, and in some cases exploited these issues. Is this because our Liberal democratic republic is failing of its own accord, or are we being pushed over the cliffs of Gadara? As I'm currently re-reading Ralph Ellis's germaine books, we're following an old (divide and conquer) playbook, the psychological dynamics being exactly the same.
 

Jerry Russell

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Whitney Webb at Mint Press News has just published this story about the movement to build the Third Temple at Jerusalem.

https://www.mintpressnews.com/israel-jerusalem-al-aqsa-third-temple/259926/

While the push to destroy Al-Aqsa and replace it with a physical Third Temple has gained traction in Israel in recent years, this effort has advanced at a remarkably fast pace in just the past few weeks, owing to a confluence of factors. These factors, as this report will show, include the upcoming revelation of the so-called “Deal of the Century,” the push for a war with Iran and Lebanon’s Hezbollah, and the Trump administration’s dramatic lenience in regards to the activity of Jewish extremist groups and extremist settlements in Israel.
The push for war with Iran is largely posed in secular terms in the US mass media and political discourse. The suggestion is intriguing, that the real reason for the hunger for war could be related to the biblical prophecies for this Temple.
 

Richard Stanley

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And near the end of the article:

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Arrests of other key Al-Aqsa personnel have continued in recent days, such as the arrest of seven Palestinian residents of Jerusalem, including guards of the mosque, and their subsequent ban from entering the site. The Palestinians were arrested at their homes last Sunday night in early morning raids and the official reason for their arrest remains unclear. So many arrests in such a short period have raised concerns that, should the spate of arrests of important Al-Aqsa personnel continue, future incidents at the site, such as the mysterious fire that broke out last April at Al-Aqsa while France’s Notre Dame was also ablaze, may not be handled as effectively owing to staff shortages.
Soon after those arrests, 60 members of a settler extremist group entered the al-Aqsa compound under heavy guard from Israeli police. Safa news agency reported that these settlers have recently been accompanied by Israeli intelligence officials in their incursions at the site.
All of these recent provocations and arrests in connection with the mosque come soon after the King of Jordan, Abdullah II, publicly stated in late March that he had recently come under great pressure to relinquish Jordan’s custodianship of the mosque and the contested holy site upon which it is built. Abdullah II vowed to continue custodianship over Christian and Muslim sites in Jerusalem, including Al-Aqsa, and declined to say who was pressuring him over the site. However, his comments about this pressure to cede control over the mosque came just days after he had visited the U.S. and met with American Vice President Mike Pence, a Christian Zionist who believes that a Jewish Temple must replace Al-Aqsa to fulfill an end times prophecy.
In May, an Israeli government-linked research institute, the Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs, wrote that Abdullah II had nearly been toppled in mid-April, just weeks after publicly discussing external pressure to relinquish control over Al-Aqsa. The report stated that Abdullah II had been a target of a “plot undermining his rule,” which led him to replace several senior members of his government. That report further claimed that the plot had been aimed at removing obstacles to the Trump administration’s “Deal of the Century,” which is supported by Israel’s government. ...

The article goes on to discuss the insane idea to have the Saudis (Wahhabis) take over control of the Temple Mount sites from the Jordamians, and possibly to move them to Mecca.
 

Sgt Pepper

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Joe was on a roll recently regarding his views on the 3rd Temple.
A neat little bit that he pointed out is that on the Sgt Pepper album cover, there are 3 cutouts of Shirley Temple. Shirley, the 3rd Temple will be built! :D
 

Ruby Gray

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Before I forget, indeed before I have read all the foregoing, therefore at the risk of having already been pre-empted, I will just make a comment re this paragraph.

"Ironically, the word ‘rapture’ means ‘pleasure’. Albeit that specific word (‘rapture’) does not appear in the canon, but rather being an artifact of certain prior and popular evangelical interpretations, yet stemming from such canonic notions as “being redeemed from the earth”.Indeed, it is likely a relative pleasure to be able to bypass such 7 years of war and disasters. But the word’s root is from ‘rapt’ and the Latin rapio, meaning to seize, plunder, and to agitate. This latter as related to passion or animi motus. Emotionally seizing the collective mind is a form of performance magic, distracting all from the true underlying machinations."

Or, "rapture" is one of the many English words having disparate meanings, dependent on context.
Here, it is the approximation of the Latin verb "rapiemur", which was the translation of the Greek verb "harpazo", which means, "to snatch or catch up, to seize, to take by force", etc.

Thus the connotation of the "rapture" is that certain individuals will at some determined time, be snatched away out of the coming conflict. This is correlated with the ascension of Christ of course.
Or in fact, of the Jewish Messiah, which designation is more pertinent than the Greek appellation in the Hebrew context of 144,000 redeemed of the 12 tribes of Israel.

And of course, when I say "Jewish", I refer to the entire Hebrew race here, as representatives of all tribes did survive the Exile after which they were collectively known as Jews and also Israelites. The apostle Paul was of the tribe of Benjamin; Anna the prophetess was of the tribe of Asher, and the Levites of course, were from the tribe of Levi. The others were also represented, even though the majority of the wayward tribes went into ethnic oblivion.
 

Richard Stanley

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Yes, the 144,000 Hebrew Elect are to be 'seized up' (raptured), to allow them to escape the 7 years of Tribulation that other believers must endure. If the dead of the latter are deemed worthy then they will get to be resurrected (so that they can buy some swamp land in Florida from the (predestinated) Elect). In the Preterist process, these Elect were told to flee to Pella, to avoid the bloodshed of the war.

That said, the so-called Lost Tribes were forced to migrate variously. Interestingly, in this regard Genesis lays out the pecking order of the tribes, where Judah must serve Ephraim (the youngest son of Joseph born from an Egyptian mother selected for Joseph by Pharaoh), until the two tribes are made one (the joining of the sticks). What is curious here, then, is that Ephraim was one of the tribes (half-tribe in this case) that had to absquatulate from the Promised Land. This was just a cover story, so we don't need to feel sorry for them. :)

The Bible also says that Esau would regain his inheritance, the blessing of Abraham, from Jacob -- meaning specifically ... Ephraim. The Talmud states that the Romans are Edomites, aka Esau (just like the Herodians). This is one reason why Titus Flavius (the Second Coming and the Graft of Romans 11) got along so well with Berenice (aka .... MM).

That said, the entire concept of the Jewish people is a 'social construction', a synthetic 'identity' cleverly cobbled together by the Egyptian pharaohs of the 18th and 19th Dynasties. As the French rabbis, the Sabbah brothers pointed out in their Secrets of the Exodus, the Yahud were the personal prelature priesthood of Amenhotep III, the father of Akhenaten.

The apostle Paul is one and the same as your friend, Josephus Flavius, with no Velikovskian time shift required here. Postflavians of all types agree that Josephus and his literary team created the canonic gospels which are textually interwound with Josephus' histories, per the analysis of Joseph Atwill in his Caesar's Messiah. Postflavians such as myself, also extend this thinking (per the analyses of Ralph Ellis in such as King Jesus) to that Josephus is one and the same as Saul/Paul, and that he shaded the Truth only mostly in changing the names to protect the Guilty. (Well, that and that he conflated John the Baptist's birth narrative onto that of Jesus of Gamala's).

Thus the man that Josephus (of Arimathea) saved from the cross in 70 AD was Jesus of Gamala (aka Justus of Tiberius, aka King Izates Manu VI of Edessa). This Izates is the Prophet Isa of the Muslims that also did not die on the cross and will return to fulfill the Islamic End Times (at the same time as everybody else's).

Interestingly, Edessa (aka Sanliurfa and Ur of the Chaldees) is generally where Abraham started his career, as Harran is literally just a few miles down the road. The Crusaders made a detour on their way to Jerusalem to first take care of some business in Edessa. Harran is a city known to have been occupied by people known as the Sabeans. These people, famous star watchers and such, are the real Elect, regardless of the tribal and surnames taken by them in various places and time. This interpretation is, with some exceptions, generally complementary with that of Nicholas DeVere's explanation in his From Transylvania to Tunbridge Wells now titled The Dragon Legacy. Here DeVere calims that his red-headed, green eyed clan were the real players of the Bible, not those rude Hebrews or Jews (the latter being mostly imported Gomers and Ashkenazim - non-Shemites. Read Hosea 1:1).
 

Richard Stanley

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Whitney Webb at Mint Press News has just published this story about the movement to build the Third Temple at Jerusalem.

https://www.mintpressnews.com/israel-jerusalem-al-aqsa-third-temple/259926/
Part 2 of the Whitney Webb series:

For that reason, and as this report will show, there is a significant degree of overlap between the dominant parties of Israeli politics today and the Temple Activist movement, with a majority of current Israeli government ministers, including Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu himself, and a large and influential lobby of lawmakers in Israel’s Knesset openly supporting the Israeli government takeover of Al-Aqsa mosque and its destruction and replacement with a Third Temple. Subsequent installments of this series will show how such an outcome is a grave threat to peace — not just in Israel/Palestine, but the entire Middle East — and a major yet widely overlooked motivation behind the foreign policy objectives of not only Israel’s current government but the Trump administration. ...
Part 3 demonstrates that various Anglo-American interests (importantly including Germany's Kaiser Wilhelm) originated the Zionist movement before the Jews did, with most Jews opposed to it until enough 'influencers' were won over:

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Now this installment (Part III) will show how this movement’s Christian counterpart in the United States, Christian Zionism, has likewise become a dominant force in American politics, particularly following the election of Donald Trump to the presidency, where this apocalyptic vision is a major driver behind his administration’s Middle East policy.
Yet, this fire-and-brimstone vision of the end times has long been a guide for prominent figures in American history and the American elite, even predating Zionism’s founding as a political movement. Thus, Christian Zionism’s influence on Trump administration policy is merely the latest of a long list of examples where prophecy and politics have mixed in American history, often with world-altering results. ...

Regarding Kaiser Wilhelm, via the works of Peter Levenda I have discussed his involvement with his agent, Max von Oppenheim, to radicalize Islam of the day into violent Global Jihad with the assistance of the Ottoman Turks. This effort was subsequently carried forwards by the Nazis and then taken over by such as the CIA. See:

 

Richard Stanley

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Member Seeker has brought it to my attention that the tribe of Dan was left out of the list of Hebrew tribes that would be sealed. This was accomplished by replacing Dan with the half-tribe of Manasseh, that is technically of the tribe of Joseph.

Since the end of the Book of Genesis, the tribe of Joseph was split into the two half-tribes of Manasseh and Ephraim. This allowed for some creative accounting to allow for 12 tribal regions even though the priestly tribe of Levi was not accorded their own tribal lands. Instead, the Levites were accorded ruling control over the 48 largest cities of Canaan, throughout the 12 tribal regions. This, of course, was all identity shell games, as the priestly tribe was originally known as Amenhotep III's personal priesthood of the Yehud.

The 12 Tribes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelve_Tribes_of_Israel

From Revelation 7:

4And I heard the number of those who were sealed. One hundred and forty-four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel were sealed:
5of the tribe of Judah twelve thousand were sealed;
of the tribe of Reuben twelve thousand were [a]sealed;
of the tribe of Gad twelve thousand were sealed;
6of the tribe of Asher twelve thousand were sealed;
of the tribe of Naphtali twelve thousand were sealed;
of the tribe of Manasseh twelve thousand were sealed;
7of the tribe of Simeon twelve thousand were sealed;
of the tribe of Levi twelve thousand were sealed;
of the tribe of Issachar twelve thousand were sealed;
8of the tribe of Zebulun twelve thousand were sealed;
of the tribe of Joseph twelve thousand were sealed;
of the tribe of Benjamin twelve thousand were sealed.


So what does this imply, by the clearly purposeful omission of the Danites, the tribe of the Nazarite Samson. Samson, the bringer of Trumpian Chaos and sexual Degeneracy?

And, why was Ephraim replaced by his better known father Joshua, while brother Manasseh got to stay in the mix? Just a better name for PR sake?
 
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Seeker

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Perhaps Joseph and Ephraim were meant to be conflated and synonymous, as they were both favored sons.
 

Richard Stanley

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Once more the Seeker seeked and thus foundeth. In this case we now have verification that the Nazarite Samson is a partial fulfillment of the Antichrist:

This first from Irenaeus in his Against Heresies, Book 5 Chapter 30:


2. These men, therefore, ought to learn [what really is the state of the case], and go back to the true number of the name, that they be not reckoned among false prophets. But, knowing the sure number declared by Scripture, that is, six hundred sixty and six, let them await, in the first place, the division of the kingdom into ten; then, in the next place, when these kings are reigning, and beginning to set their affairs in order, and advance their kingdom, [let them learn] to acknowledge that he who shall come claiming the kingdom for himself, and shall terrify those men of whom we have been speaking, having a name containing the aforesaid number, is truly the abomination of desolation. This, too, the apostle affirms: When they shall say, Peace and safety, then sudden destruction shall come upon them. 1 Thessalonians 5:3 And Jeremiah does not merely point out his sudden coming, but he even indicates the tribe from which he shall come, where he says, We shall hear the voice of his swift horses from Dan; the whole earth shall be moved by the voice of the neighing of his galloping horses: he shall also come and devour the earth, and the fullness thereof, the city also, and they that dwell therein. Jeremiah 8:16 This, too, is the reason that this tribe is not reckoned in the Apocalypse along with those which are saved.

Then with Hippolytus' On Christ and Antichrist:

14. Thus did the Scriptures preach before-time of this lion and lion's cub. And in like manner also we find it written regarding Antichrist. For Moses speaks thus: Dan is a lion's cub, and he shall leap from Bashan. Deuteronomy 33:22 But that no one may err by supposing that this is said of the Saviour, let him attend carefully to the matter. Dan, he says, is a lion's cub; and in naming the tribe of Dan, he declared clearly the tribe from which Antichrist is destined to spring. For as Christ springs from the tribe of Judah, so Antichrist is to spring from the tribe of Dan. And that the case stands thus, we see also from the words of Jacob: Let Dan be a serpent, lying upon the ground, biting the horse's heel. Genesis 49:17 What, then, is meant by the serpent but Antichrist, that deceiver who is mentioned in Genesis, Genesis 3:1 who deceived Eve and supplanted Adam (πτερνι'σας, bruised Adam's heel)? But since it is necessary to prove this assertion by sufficient testimony, we shall not shrink from the task.
15. That it is in reality out of the tribe of Dan, then, that that tyrant and king, that dread judge, that son of the devil, is destined to spring and arise, the prophet testifies when he says, Dan shall judge his people, as (he is) also one tribe in Israel. Genesis 49:16 But some one may say that this refers to Samson, who sprang from the tribe of Dan, and judged the people twenty years. Well, the prophecy had its partial fulfilment in Samson, but its complete fulfilment is reserved for Antichrist. For Jeremiah also speaks to this effect: From Dan we are to hear the sound of the swiftness of his horses: the whole land trembled at the sound of the neighing, of the driving of his horses. Jeremiah 8:16 And another prophet says: He shall gather together all his strength, from the east even to the west. They whom he calls, and they whom he calls not, shall go with him. He shall make the sea white with the sails of his ships, and the plain black with the shields of his armaments. And whosoever shall oppose him in war shall fall by the sword. That these things, then, are said of no one else but that tyrant, and shameless one, and adversary of God, we shall show in what follows.

The next to last sentence is rather odd, for it seems to evoke imagery from the Sea Peoples and/or the Trojan War and the face that launched a thousand ships. Again, the right general time period, but the wrong locale for a bunch of otherwise land-lubbing Hebrews.
 
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