Mirage Men

[smith]

Hello, any comments on this documentatry, here is a link to an interview with the producer:https://soundcloud.com/miragemen/mirage-men-resonance-fm

The documentary is available here:https://thepiratebay.am/torrent/9439241/Mirage_Men_(2013)

 

[smith]

http://www.miragemen.com/
Mirage Men – A tale of US political corruption and mind games involving the life and sanity of UFO-informer Paul Benowitz.
From a talk he gave:
In an epilogue of sorts to Mirage Men, Mark looks at two formerly secret documents, published six decades apart, that reveal the methodologies of psychological manipulation and deception practised by American and British intelligence services. The Art of Deception, Training for a New Generation of Online Covert Operations, an internal presentation for the UK’s GCHQ, was leaked by whistleblower Edward Snowden earlier this year, while The Exploitation of Superstitions for Purposes of Psychological Warfare was published by USAF’s RAND Corporation in 1950.

The similarities between the two papers demonstrate that while the world we live in has changed dramatically in the intervening years, the human mind, and the techniques for manipulating it, have remained very much the same; both papers discuss the exploitation of belief systems and fortean phenomena.

 

[Jerry Russell]

https://miragemen.wordpress.com/about-the-book/

On a journey through the badlands and backwaters of America, Mark Pilkington and John Lundberg uncover a 60 year-old story stranger than any conspiracy thriller.

Through the fascinating account of his travels Pilkington reveals the long history of UFOria and its origins in the murky worlds of espionage, psychological warfare and advanced military technology.

As he meets intelligence agents, disinformation specialists and UFO hunters, Pilkington soon discovers that the truth about flying saucers is stranger and more complex than either the ufologists or debunkers would have us believe: instead of covering-up stories of crashed spacecraft, alien contacts and secret underground bases, the US intelligence agencies had been promoting them all along.

As Pilkington and Lundberg get closer to the source of these rumours, the line between truth and deception begins to disappear: they have entered a mirrored labyrinth, the domain of the Mirage Men.

This agrees perfectly with my own suspicions about the "UFO" scene. I saw Steven Greer give a talk & film about his "Disclosure Project" and felt that it reeked of military intelligence disinfo.

Although at this point, I also wouldn't be completely stunned if it turns out that underneath it all, the government is covering up real alien visitations. I've come to believe that it's risky to rule anything out categorically, even if some explanations are more likely than others.

I'm going to watch the video sometime in the next few days. I'm looking forward to it. Thanks for the tip, Smith!

For those who prefer to avoid pirate bay, the film is also available on Amazon Prime and Netflix Streaming (with subscription), or for rent at all the usual places.

 

[smith]

What sticks in my mind about the documentary is the smug confidence of the government guy, I forget his name, and the callous way he led the productive guy into madness. Also the way government workers have so much time to play around, thinking up ways to screw people over, real parasites.

 

[Mike Dexter]

There's a very credible podcast and website:
http://www.theparacast.com/
I don't listen much any more. Anyway, they really, really don't like Steven Greer and the whole "disclosure" project. They have concluded that it's either disinfo or at the very least, misguided.

 

[smith]

Thanks Mike, I have watched him perform, not sure what he's selling. The ufo scene is going strong. There was a "disclosure" last week, turned out one of the pics was of a child, not an alien. Quite lucrative I think. Saying that I think it comforts many and I,m a little surprised it's not more popular. The pilots seeing ufos might be connected to the toxic fumes in the cabin, same with haunted houses, but mold not fumes.

 

[Jerry Russell]

I watched the first half of the documentary so far, and I was amazed at how little self-reflection or remorse Richard Doty exhibited with regards to his self-admitted behavior of passing on fabricated documents and driving his victim insane. It seemed that he felt this was justified by the cold war situation.

Although one might be tempted to extrapolate from this incident to conclude that all UFO manifestations are faked, strangely Doty himself doesn't believe this. On the contrary, he continues to insist that the famous Roswell incident really did involve a spacecraft from another world, and that the US government captured an alien being. Or at any rate, so he's been told by his superiors, and he sees no reason to doubt it. (??!!)

More on Doty at this link:

http://www.openminds.tv/open-letter-u-s-air-force-allegations-ufo-disinformation/27071

 

[Mike Dexter]

As someone who used to pay a fair amount of attention to the UFO topic, I have these comments:

1. There do seem to be phenomena that are unexplained and cannot be easily written off as military, hallucinations or other common 3D explanations. Terrestrial or extra-terrestrial? Who knows?

2. I wouldn't believe a single word that comes out of the mouth of Richard Doty. He is a pathological liar and disinfo agent through and through. I was glad they spent time with Linda Moulton Howe. She is, I'm afraid, a useful idiot. Just a little bit (sometimes a lot) too gullible.

3. One of the interviewees in Mirage Men was "former" agent Walter Bosley. His writings and many interviews are easily found. I haven't explored his writings very much, but will at least listen to a few more interviews. I think he is probably still acting as some sort of agent, dispensing disinfo with large lashings of truth. That said, he is one hell of a story teller. If you are interested in the ideas that are "out there" is a couple senses of the word, do check him out.

4. The film also demonstrates that we are targets of experimentation and propaganda. If someone like the dead guy they mentioned frequently (forget his name) gets thrown under the bus, then they don't care.

5. I noticed that Jon Ronson had some sort of credit at the end. He is not known to be a purveyor of the truth, so that causes me to be more skeptical of the intent of Mirage Men. He also provides a quote they use to promote the film. There is also praise from Adam Curtis. Cavet emptor. That said, their relentless exposure of Richard Doty is a big plus for me.

 

[Craig_Bickford]

As someone who used to pay a fair amount of attention to the UFO topic, I have these comments:

1. There do seem to be phenomena that are unexplained and cannot be easily written off as military, hallucinations or other common 3D explanations. Terrestrial or extra-terrestrial? Who knows?

2. I wouldn't believe a single word that comes out of the mouth of Richard Doty. He is a pathological liar and disinfo agent through and through. I was glad they spent time with Linda Moulton Howe. She is, I'm afraid, a useful idiot. Just a little bit (sometimes a lot) too gullible.

3. One of the interviewees in Mirage Men was "former" agent Walter Bosley. His writings and many interviews are easily found. I haven't explored his writings very much, but will at least listen to a few more interviews. I think he is probably still acting as some sort of agent, dispensing disinfo with large lashings of truth. That said, he is one hell of a story teller. If you are interested in the ideas that are "out there" is a couple senses of the word, do check him out.

4. The film also demonstrates that we are targets of experimentation and propaganda. If someone like the dead guy they mentioned frequently (forget his name) gets thrown under the bus, then they don't care.

5. I noticed that Jon Ronson had some sort of credit at the end. He is not known to be a purveyor of the truth, so that causes me to be more skeptical of the intent of Mirage Men. He also provides a quote they use to promote the film. There is also praise from Adam Curtis. Cavet emptor. That said, their relentless exposure of Richard Doty is a big plus for me.

Agreed. I found the Ronson credit or mention especially suspicious. That guy writes PR for spooks and psychopaths.

I have not read all of Bosley's books. His first empire of the wheel book was interesting but then he peppered in more arbitrariness about his psychic girlfriend and past life regression. He shows up on the History channel unexplained (fill in the blank) shows now and then I have noticed, so that's red flag number two for me. He tells a good story however, very compelling in my opinion.

 

[Collectivist]

The vast number of dupes who fall for the nonsense of the facilitators are susceptible because the coming deceptions will have been carefully contextualized to cater to the belief systems of various groups.

So New Age, and hippie Buddhist types will be presented with deceptive visions of the New Age Christ or Maitreya (Even the Dalai Lama says so)
Some Christians will believe they are seeing the second coming of Christ to redeem us
UFO enthusiasts will be led to believe in benevolent extra terrestrials to save us from the coming calamity (Even the Pope hints to this)
Other fools will be made to believe Asian secret societies or white hats will save us from whats coming
Chabad Lubavitch will see their great leader rise from the dead

The calamities and horrors that will precede these visions of redemption and salvation will also be properly contextualized.

The goal is for each specific group to be led closer and closer towards a collectivist ideology where a one world government is married to a one world spirituality. It is the tired efforts of god men trying to assimilate us all in their image. The deceivers know they must continue to divide and conquer these groups until they have been sufficiently conditioned to accept certain lines of thinking. I have referred to this as seeding or predictive programming and my own research points to a Kabbalistic conspiracy which, itself, is just a tool of control albeit for the initiates at the top of the pyramid. Follow these groups at your own peril.

Consider, for example, the complete transformation of someone like Micheal Ruppert, who once used his hard nosed detective skills, common sense and logic to arrive at certain truths, only to fall victim to New Age spiritual "enlightenment" sadly breaking from reality completely and ending his own life. One need only listen to his use of language (find his last podcast and listen to it ... those of you who listened to him in the past will be startled at his transformation). His facilitator did a masterful job of rewiring his brain.

I have seen others on this site refer to facilitators such as Peter Lavenda, another fraud who is big on the whole Vatican conspiracy who preys on the feeble minds of the gullible. Consider this New Age interviewer, for example. Utter bunk

http://freemantv.com/peter-levenda-alien-seance/

Remember, listen to everyone, follow no one..

 

[Craig_Bickford]

I watched the first half of the documentary so far, and I was amazed at how little self-reflection or remorse Richard Doty exhibited with regards to his self-admitted behavior of passing on fabricated documents and driving his victim insane. It seemed that he felt this was justified by the cold war situation.

Although one might be tempted to extrapolate from this incident to conclude that all UFO manifestations are faked, strangely Doty himself doesn't believe this. On the contrary, he continues to insist that the famous Roswell incident really did involve a spacecraft from another world, and that the US government captured an alien being. Or at any rate, so he's been told by his superiors, and he sees no reason to doubt it. (??!!)

More on Doty at this link:

http://www.openminds.tv/open-letter-u-s-air-force-allegations-ufo-disinformation/27071

This is where I think Jan Irvin might be on to something in regard to the suspicion that Leary wrote the entrance exam for the CIA (I don't know if this is a supposition or an unconfirmed quote, or both). The idea is that Leary, a self admitted psychopath, wrote the entrance exam so that the agency could filter in people with psychopathic personality traits, instead of filtering them out, because that's who they wanted to induct into their ranks. I wonder if the same could be true of the military intelligence corps and their staffing needs. That would explain that Doty character and his utter lack of sympathy for his victims.

 

[Walter Bosley]

I think he is probably still acting as some sort of agent, dispensing disinfo with large lashings of truth. .

Nope. If I were, I'd be getting paid! And I don't spread disinfo, though I understand why people may think so.

 

[Walter Bosley]

Agreed. I found the Ronson credit or mention especially suspicious. That guy writes PR for spooks and psychopaths.

I have not read all of Bosley's books. His first empire of the wheel book was interesting but then he peppered in more arbitrariness about his psychic girlfriend and past life regression. He shows up on the History channel unexplained (fill in the blank) shows now and then I have noticed, so that's red flag number two for me. He tells a good story however, very compelling in my opinion.

I think you may be referring to a time travel novel I wrote based on the Empire of the Wheel data, titled I Will See You In Time. The novel indeed deals with past life stuff and a former girlfriend, etc. But it's definitely identified as fiction. IF there is some reference in the nonfiction Empire of the Wheel to the past life stuff and an old GF, then mea culpa! Tell me what page it's on or in what context. It has been a few years since I wrote that book.

My appearance on the History Channel show Ancient Aliens is not unexplained. I was referred to them by a friend who appeared on the show. They looked at my books and asked me to be on the show. Also, I've been friends with David Childress since 2002, met Giorgio through him in '04, and am acquainted with others who have appeared and still do. They gave me the topic they were interested in. My other appearance was on Travel Channel's National Park Mysteries and that was because Empire of the Wheel and my other work is linked to Glacier National Park and that park was the subject. No mystery there either. If it makes you feel better, they simply haven't asked me back yet.

I will take 'compelling' as a compliment!

 

[Mike Dexter]

Nope. If I were, I'd be getting paid! And I don't spread disinfo, though I understand why people may think so.

Walter, it's good to see that you have found Postflaviana. I should not have used the word "agent" in my post of last year. The proper term would be "a person who knows a lot of things about the way the world works in general, and about the way the Deep State operates in particular, and who nonetheless says, for whatever reason, things that are in support of the Deep State that he can't possibly believe are true."

I can't find the podcast featuring you that prompted me to direct that epithet in your direction. I'm pretty sure it was a Paracast podcast from a year or so ago. This is from memory, and please correct me if I'm wrong. I recall that you spoke of the 9/11 terror attacks as though you believed the official conspiracy theory with the 19 hijackers, etc. My thought was (about whatever it was you had said), "Nobody who knows as much as this person knows about the way the world operates could possibly believe that."

I was reminded of John Loftus, who, paid or unpaid, is a Mossad asset and is otherwise a supporter of some good causes and some bad ones. For example, he claims to believe that there was no conspiracy involved in the assassination of JFK. I'm not saying that you another John Loftus or are like John Loftus; it's just that whatever it was you said caused me to make that connection.

 

[Walter Bosley]

I can't find the podcast featuring you that prompted me to direct that epithet in your direction. I'm pretty sure it was a Paracast podcast from a year or so ago. This is from memory, and please correct me if I'm wrong. I recall that you spoke of the 9/11 terror attacks as though you believed the official conspiracy theory with the 19 hijackers, etc. My thought was (about whatever it was you had said), "Nobody who knows as much as this person knows about the way the world operates could possibly believe that."

Then you didn't listen close enough because that's never been my position in its entirety. I don't buy the typical stuff that it was all a Bush-Cheney evil deed. And yes, the planes existed and hit the buildings, and something hit the Pentagon. BUT I'm pretty sure that in enough places I have also added that I have never thought the planes brought the buildings down on their own and I have written on my blog and in a couple of books that I am convinced there was a hidden hand in the whole thing. I do not recall ever stating that I flat out believe the official story. I have always said or indicated that I think the 'official story' is merely a part of the picture. If that part of the discussion was not fleshed out enough to make that clear, I don't control the direction of the conversation when on someone's show. Hopefully that clarifies things on that.

As regards my being any kind of source for the government, having been a federal agent I am quite familiar with the concepts of witting and unwitting sources. A disinfo source requires some sort of contact as a conduit to provide the disinfo. I'm sure some will not take my word, but there is no one feeding me anything to write or talk about. My books are a product of my research and analysis. No one 'suggests' anything to me.

Anyway, I hope that clarifies.

 

[Richard Stanley]

Hi Walter, welcome to our humble ibode. I have to warn you though that you may be setting a bad example for displaying too much civility here.

Prior to your finding your way here, I had only been familiar with Farrell of which I've read 3 of his works. Last night I watched your Breakaway Civilization Conference presentation on the Sonora Aero Club and related. As such I believe that Jerry Russell's and my revisionist historical take on Judaism and Christianity (the basis for Western Civilization) has a lot that dovetails with the Breakaway approach. Most commonly in that the surface narrative is rather different than from what emerges upon deeper investigation.

One of the aspects that struck me about the whole 19th century airship phenomenon, flowing through to the 20th century aspects is the present Catholic Church's official rumblings regarding what I term 'Space Jesus'. Or perhaps better as "preparing the way for Space Jesus", the perceived necessary universal savior figure for crystallizing a globalized humanity. As we've mentioned here before, the Jesuit astronomers on Mt. Graham have been claiming to daily observe UFO's out in the solar system with their amusingly named LUCIFER telescope.

And as with your discussion of Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid's trip to South America, I have some factoids regarding a similar trip to SA in the 1850's starting from Nebraska and then SoCal. It seems possible to have some threads to such as Quantrell's Raiders, if that is of interest. But whatever the case, now the name Sundance has garnered new possible significance for me. The Harriman connection to them is fascinating considering the later Harriman and Bush collaboration in Nazi money laundering.

We have something of an ongoing schism here, in the nature of Jews versus non-Jews (sic) which Jerry and I have begun elaborating on in our Old Testament patriarch analysis (now termed the Shepherds and Sheepdog Model - the SSM). I believe that our new framework allows a better insight into such as why Karl Marx was first employed by his aristocratic Prussian friends (to spy on Bruno Bauer), as were the Rothschilds.


Walter's blog: http://empireofthewheel.blogspot.com/

 

[Mike Dexter]

Then you didn't listen close enough because that's never been my position in its entirety. I don't buy the typical stuff that it was all a Bush-Cheney evil deed. And yes, the planes existed and hit the buildings, and something hit the Pentagon. BUT I'm pretty sure that in enough places I have also added that I have never thought the planes brought the buildings down on their own and I have written on my blog and in a couple of books that I am convinced there was a hidden hand in the whole thing. I do not recall ever stating that I flat out believe the official story. I have always said or indicated that I think the 'official story' is merely a part of the picture. If that part of the discussion was not fleshed out enough to make that clear, I don't control the direction of the conversation when on someone's show. Hopefully that clarifies things on that.

Yes it does. Not being familiar with the entirety of your ouvre, I jumped too hastily to an incorrect conclusion.

As regards my being any kind of source for the government, having been a federal agent I am quite familiar with the concepts of witting and unwitting sources. A disinfo source requires some sort of contact as a conduit to provide the disinfo. I'm sure some will not take my word, but there is no one feeding me anything to write or talk about. My books are a product of my research and analysis. No one 'suggests' anything to me.

Anyway, I hope that clarifies.

Yes, it does. As they say in Parliament, I withdraw and apologise.

 

[Walter Bosley]

Yes it does. Not being familiar with the entirety of your ouvre, I jumped too hastily to an incorrect conclusion.



Yes, it does. As they say in Parliament, I withdraw and apologise.

No apology necessary! You guys hear a lot of us former spooks go on these shows and people say a bunch of stuff, much of which sounds nutty. There have been ex-govt guys doing sneaky stuff with the public perception. I try to clarify myself because of that noise out there. The only thing that pisses me off and which will get a serious response from me is someone calls me a fraud. To me, a former law enforcement guy, a fraud is a thief, i.e. you pay for a book and you don't get it. That's fraud. Or I say I'm such and such military rank that I wasn't or I attended a school I didn't. That's a fraud. But having a skeptical or uncertain opinion about someone is a different thing. 'I don't know about that guy, he used to be one of them AFOSI agents and I don't trust that.' That I get. That's why I like to clarify because there have been knuckleheads giving guys like me a bad name. I've also found that when I engage, I usually come away with a positive experience because I'm able to better explain something I said somewhere and people understand that where I'm coming from is closer to their position than they thought, as far as trying to figure all this weird stuff out.

 

[Richard Stanley]

Somewhat sheepishly, I just got around to watching Mirage Men after it popped up on YouTube last night. Maybe that's for the best, as I hadn't formed my notions of what seems to being prepared, the ultimate psy-op. And ironically, that makes the original posting contextually correct under Religion.

Whatever her role, I thought Linda Moulton-Howe's comment was quite apropos that the whole matter was a "hall of broken mirrors with a floor of quicksand".

More importantly, I think, was the comments that it seems the underlying purposes were to inoculate our minds, testing our reactions, while simultaneously reducing the confidence in our government. The latter which seems counterintuitive, unless there is a larger agenda.

The big problem that I had was with how the Doty disinfo business with Paul Bennewitz started. Namely, that supposedly top secret operations (revealed by their visual aspects) would originate out of Kirtland AFB, where there is surrounding homes of civilians not just next door, but on the rising hillsides. This would not happen, unless this was what the desired result. Whether the goal was to fool the Soviets about stealth weapon development or to manipulate the public (or both) the likely IMHO then Bennewitz, a successful defense contractor himself, was playing along only seeming to have lost his good witz.

And here, I have to believe that the Soviets just aren't that stupid to buy into this, because they would see the same problems. The USA has plenty of remote places to conduct secret testing, like Groom Lake.

People like Doty littered the post-9/11 scene, and still do, surely having taken psyop lessons from the UFO tableau. And thanks to 9/11 we now have things like the (seemingly) Bottomless Pit, where the pope stopped on 9/25/15 before going on to celebrate mass. A mass where the Bible reading (in Spanish at Madison Square Garden no less) was to announce the coming birth of the savior from Isaiah 9. And on 9/23/17, in the heavens at least, that happened ... in the first year of Trump.

Is gravity really just an electrical phenomenon, and such top secret electrogravitics being tested and deployed, stemming from the efforts of such as Tesla and others? Electrogravitics enabling such as the Jesuit astronomers running the LUCIFER telescope in Arizona to see God's heavenly army being assembled, awaiting the maturation of the just born Space Jesus?

Or, is all of this just part of the same psyop as with alien UFO's? Is being distracted by such as this and the 5 ring Trumpian beastly circus actually helping us to keep our good witz about us, as opposed to hysterically pondering the real possibility of an apocalyptic space rock crossing our path? Are Hollywood movies about such designed to inoculate (most of us) us from considering the real possibility of such?

And yet, we are told that funding for dangerous space objects is being curtailed. With the Preterist End Times scenario of 70 AD, the extra-Biblical story tells of the Flight to Pella, where the insiders were sent to escape the Roman apocalypse. With 9/11 most of the Twin Tower executives were away at a conference in Omaha, Nebraska, where the airport there is the closest one to Pella, Iowa. Even the then President put in a stop there that day, after reading a story about a goat to school kids in Jupiter, FL, just down the road from Mar-a-Lago.

Nothing new here folks, this literally happens all the time. As a means of occasional distraction, I've been watching episodes of Penn and Teller's Fool Us on YouTube. It has literally struck me that we are constantly subjects to such 'magic', just as Penn and Teller frequently say.

 

[Richard Stanley]

Forum member Sgt Pepper posted the following interview with Jason Reza Jorjani on the From Chrest to Christ thread and I have decided to repost and comment on it here:

I was not expecting that JRJ would be into this topic, but I guess if one is into all the topics that he into that all those would logically take one there.

This is perhaps the best overview of the topic of Breakaway Civilization that I have seen so far. Especially as he ties so many different elements together, crossing the bounds of Europe to the Americas from the 19th century till today. And thus seeing so many deep elite American and British linkages to the Nazis, and how those ties are still impacting us. Deep State? Hitler being the first to express the phrase New World Order in the modern era?

Not long ago I sent JRJ an email, after his discussion on Mythvision, in which I perhaps made the mistake of questioning his misplaced faith in Trump, as I feel that Trump is a deep member of this cabal, a so-called Lifetime Actor. JRJ did not reply to me.

As well, all of this begs the question of just what the real alignments are in terms of the elite institutions versus each other in relation to this deep state concept. Almost everything is interlinked, making surface narrative and dialectics rather useless - or distractionary.

Is it possible that all these supposed enemies on the surface level are really part of the 'Space Jesus' delivery package for the coming new age? Were some of these people, such as the German program to radicalize Islam were part of the 'create a problem' thesis needed to justify the desired synthesis? One requiring a new savior.