OMG!!!The entire continent of Europe is north of the equator, just like the entire continent of North America. There is no such thing as 'Southern Europe' or 'South Europe'.
Now you're just trying to confuse me. Alabama is not in South America.Does the USA have a North and South?
That's correct, but we were having a conversation in absolute, categorical terms. I knew exactly what I was talking about. And Miss Kitty knew exactly what I was talking about too, even though (in retrospect) we can't agree on what that was.The terms, north, west, south, east are all relative terms Jerry.
From now on I think Miss Kitty will want to get everything in writing.And maybe, because you might have had some problems with geography, you need to reconvene that phone conversation question with Miss Kitty?
You've given me no confidence here, in either Miss Kitty's geography or yours. For myself I got an A+ in both Geography, and Geometry.I knew exactly what I was talking about. And Miss Kitty knew exactly what I was talking about too, even though (in retrospect) we can't agree on what that was.
Indeed our phone conversation deserves no confidence.You've given me no confidence here, in either Miss Kitty's geography or yours.
You are aware that Jews were expelled over one hundred times because people considered them uniquely evil(?) And you realize by advocating the same idea about us, which is very common now, you are setting us up for genocide. Are you suicidal? Please don't get into analyzing exactly what the charges were in all the different places Jews were expelled. Obviously, people thought they were up to no good.Maybe you asked on the phone whether Northern European ("Western") Civilization is uniquely evil, and I would have agreed. It's also uniquely high achieving, but I don't need to tell you that.
You are the only person who did not express any sympathy for my tragic bitcoin story. You can't even imagine how upset Ali was. The fact is, I did buy them. Your idea is a mere after the fact fantasy, and not at all a similar experience. You really need to develop a little empathy, or at least learn to mimic some.Right. And if I'd put half my money into Bitcoin then, and got out at the right moment, I'd be richer than God. A missed opportunity. Bygones.
So, any participation of any kind by members of another group means that Jews are scapegoats? Even if Jews are the originators of a disaster, such as replacement level immigration in America, because others were duped or joined in later that means Jews can't be responsible? Please take a look at this short video, paying particular attention to the conclusion:You admit that "White" American business, Democrats in general, and the Pope want open borders? Yet you still want to scapegoat the Jews? The more you argue, the more you prove my point.
Jerry, again, you are too literal. I was joking about common Jewish behavior (making moral hazards and hating Christians), and a common Jewish accusation (you are an anti-semite), and a common Jewish fear (you will try to kill the Jews). The implied answer (to the Jew) is, "No, I hate you because you are making violent porn." Jews engage in horrible behavior, then think people hate them because they're Jewish. No self criticism whatsoever. It's crazy.How am I supposed to have a discussion with someone who can't accurately quote another person's statement, even after they've been corrected once already?
Since the "atavistic hatred" quote is in print, we can look at it again.
Some porn stars viewed themselves as frontline fighters in the spiritual battle between Christian America and secular humanism. According to Ford, Jewish X-rated actors often brag about their ‘joy in being anarchic, sexual gadflies to the puritanical beast’. Jewish involvement in porn, by this argument, is the result of an atavistic hatred of Christian authority: they are trying to weaken the dominant culture in America by moral subversion.
Nobody is actually being quoted as expressing their "atavistic hatred", but the author is imputing this view to others. And it's not hatred of "white Christians" being expressed, it's hatred of Christian authority. Which is a very different thing.
Again, so exacting. Cut me some slack. You know what I mean. But wait, I said I'd stop being so lazy, didn't I? Or I said I'd try to be more precise! Jews are accusing us of terrible things all the time, and constantly taking a defensive attitude towards white Americans, when Americans fucking died in that war. We could have sided with the Germans or stayed out of it, you know - if Chruchill hadn't been under Jewish control because they were paying for his country estate!Actually, it was the Soviet Union that defeated Nazi Germany. Americans came in for a mop-up operation after Nazi Germany was already defeated.
Jews are a major MAJOR drivers. They are passing laws to stop people from boycotting Israel. It's outrageous! I've read they made anti-semitism an executable offense in the Soviet Union. I admit, I didn't check it out.Yes, but there are other forces arrayed against free speech. Catholics and the Deep State don't like it either.
I think the country will break up into territories. I hope we have ten or fifteen years left. Most people will split along racial lines. Multi cultural cities are that way already. There are Jewish neighborhoods, Mexican neighborhoods, Asian neighborhoods, etc., already. To be exact, I'm talking about neighborhoods that are 80-90% one race - like my neighborhood and Mom's neighborhood. Places of worship tend to be very largely homogeneous, also. I think real multi culti areas are usually transient and/or artificial (forced by government programs). A downtown apartment building where people move frequently and where you usually don't know your neighbors might be more multi culti. The Camden Hollywood, where my airbnb is, started multi culti, but now it's mostly black.Trump's tweet about this is pretty interesting. Maybe we should have a new thread about it, and really look into the distribution of sanctuary cities that will get extra immigrants, vs. the ones that will get "protected" from further immigration under Trump's proposal.
Rick has been predicting Civil War in America, and this would be one way to set the stage. Let's put the Democrats and immigrants into one armed camp, and Republicans and the Trump base and "White Christians" in another. I guess the multiculturalists would get the east and west coasts, and the white nationalists would get the south and the midwest? Maybe social conditions will develop so that people don't have much choice but to take sides, and move to where they feel comfortable.
Someone I read says that the military has run endless scenarios. The far right always wins. The military is full of people like us. But I have to say, that article you sent me about people laughing about launching nukes, but the media didn't care, probably means the Jews do have control of the nukes.Who's going to win? It depends on which side gets control of the US air force and strategic missile command, right? "White Christians" with AR-15s are not going to stand a chance against "White Liberals", Jews and Latinos with jet fighters, bombers, tanks and nukes?
My explanation is that they were expelled because they were scapegoated. Blamed as Christ killers.You are aware that Jews were expelled over one hundred times because people considered them uniquely evil(?)
Tell the truth, no fear, and let the chips fall where they may. And furthermore, the whole concept of "white genocide" is a false extrapolation.And you realize by advocating the same idea about us, which is very common now, you are setting us up for genocide. Are you suicidal?
How else are you going to know the facts, if you aren't willing to do the research? Although the charges have always been very similar as far as I know. Blood libel and witch-hunts and blame for lending with interest.Please don't get into analyzing exactly what the charges were in all the different places Jews were expelled. Obviously, people thought they were up to no good.
OK. I'm also sorry that you (or I) didn't buy Apple in 1981, or Microsoft in 1986, or Amazon (or any of those others) in 2002 after the first NASDAQ crash. There have been lots of missed opportunities that other people were able to take advantage of. If we'd been smarter, we could've been billionaires. Sucks that we aren't. Does that help?You are the only person who did not express any sympathy for my tragic bitcoin story.
HELLO!!!! That's what the whole point about the False Dialectic of Western Civilization is, and you keep taking the bait. Unfortunately, you've triggered upon the subissue of the "scapegoat" that prevents you from understanding the root issue. You virtual Jews are just as stiff-necked as the fake Ashkenazi Jews (your neighbors), and the OG Jews, who were mostly Canaanites to begin with.You are aware that Jews were expelled over one hundred times because people considered them uniquely evil(?)
Here's how I'd summarize this. When it comes to changes in the immigration law, Jews took a heroic stand which was supported by many Americans of good will, as well as by Catholics and business leaders. And, yes: blaming Jews exclusively, for a wonderful change that was supported by a majority of Americans of all races and creeds, is absolutely a form of scapegoating.So, any participation of any kind by members of another group means that Jews are scapegoats?
Although I know it wasn't the video maker's intent, I was very satisfied to see the quote that "America is a nation of ideas, not of people." Like for example, Thomas Jefferson saying "all men are created equal." You can't tell a black man or a Jew (or for that matter, a black or Jewish woman or transsexual) that they are less equal than a white person, just because of their race.Even if Jews are the originators of a disaster, such as replacement level immigration in America, because others were duped or joined in later that means Jews can't be responsible? Please take a look at this short video, paying particular attention to the conclusion:
If "scapegoat" is just a subissue, then I don't know what the root issue is either?Unfortunately, you've triggered upon the subissue of the "scapegoat" that prevents you from understanding the root issue.
I'm not making any predictions, other than to say that in the event of a civil war, control of the military apparatus will be decisive. I believe it's very plausible that one side or the other will wind up in control of the federal government and the war machine.Jerry is wrong I'm guessing about such people having control over the military, and besides the ground troops of the Taliban, as proven by their allies in Afghanistan can easily perform asymmetric tactics and strategy to deal with air weapons. Nukes are mostly a non-starter except in the most extreme circumstances.
The very next sentence of mine provided the answer, the human (synthetic) 'genesis' of the False Dialectic of Western Civilization. Having an institutional human scapegoat class then becomes subsumed under that larger umbrella. And, as stated before, the scapegoats fill a dual use technology as sheepdogs.If "scapegoat" is just a subissue, then I don't know what the root issue is either?
I would've said that the entire system pivots around the scapegoat idea. But, I see what you're saying.And, as stated before, the scapegoats fill a dual use technology as sheepdogs.
There's a new Italian immigration law which is rather complex. I think it's still an EU requirement to accept some asylum seekers, though the italians are trying to establish some limits. As for Miss Kitty, it seems she'll need either a very good immigration lawyer, or 500,000 euro, or both.Further, I find it most sardonic that Italy would allow immigration residence status to People 1 that wont allow People 2 seeking asylum from violence caused by the faux heroes of People 1.
True, it takes very few Jews to subvert a society.To be specific: according to census data (generally based on self-identification of ethnic identity): in Poland in 1942 there were 3 million Jews. As of 2016, there are 3,200. In Germany in 1900, there were 600,000 Jews, in 1970 there were 30,000.
In France as of 2016, Jews make up 3% of the population. In the UK, 2%. In Germany, 1%. It seems that no percentage of Jewish population is small enough to satisfy you, or to protect the "poor liddle" White population from their nefarious schemes.
Of course in reality, immigration into Europe is being driven mostly by pressure of immigrants coming from "shithole countries" where imperialism and colonialism have had their worst effect; and by humanitarian and egalitarian feelings on the part of most Europeans. It has little or nothing to do with Jewish preferences.
Sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_population_by_country, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_Jewish_population_comparisons
I had to look up atavistic, too, when I first saw it. I thought, wow, it's true! They hate us! And I had no idea! That explains a lot. Atavistic hate is still hate.I realized I didn't actually know what "atavistic" means, so I looked it up.
Atavistic: Happening because of a very old habit from a long time ago in human history, not because of a conscious decision or because it is necessary now.
So, in choosing that word, the Jewish author of the piece was effectively criticizing his Jewish compatriots in the film business, for harboring obsolete and unnecessary hatred of Christian authority. Which I'm sure some Jewish people do, although I think it's debatable whether some level of distrust of "Christian authority" isn't perfectly reasonable.
I said that immigration into Europe is driven by two factors: basically, supply and demand. If there weren't a lot of people wanting to come in, it wouldn't be happening.Immigration into Europe is not driven by population pressures at all.
We're also into "pattern recognition", seeing the same situation repeated over and over in history. But, you keep focusing on just one little piece of the pattern. You're missing the bigger picture.I think pattern recognition is key to understanding why people get so upset with Jews.
Yes, you thought that, but it's not what the quote said. It said "Christian authority". I am not "Christian authority", and neither are you.I thought, wow, it's true! They hate us!
"the Jew" doesn't make violent porn. The quoted article identified a handful of specific Jewish porn makers, who have made millions if not billions of dollars catering to the demand for these videos. And, it mentions that Catholics eagerly participate as actors.The implied answer (to the Jew) is, "No, I hate you because you are making violent porn."
Jewish pornographic film makers defend that activity on free speech grounds. But, it's generally agreed that there are limits to free speech. Yelling 'fire' in a crowded theatre is the standard example, and I think most people also support a ban on child pornography.Being an American, I can't stand any attempt to shut down discussion about anything!
Today is Passover, and this reminds me that Jews still like to remember having been victims of slavery in Egypt over 3000 years ago. It's a good time for them to express solidarity with American blacks and other minorities, who are the only ones in America who can truly comprehend their sufferings. It's amazing to me that, rather than openly lamenting their own part in the American slave trade, or expressing gratitude for the wealth and security they enjoy here on this occasion, Jews like to further their victim mentality and put down white Americans with articles like this one from the ADL:I'M STARTING A NEW THREAD!
Okay, let's say that I accept part of your thesis. Jews are a scapegoat class because there are always others involved in their more egregious activities. Through no fault of their own, they are singled out and persecuted. Am I hearing you right?
I would like to propose that white Americans are also a scapegoat class, and that Jews are scapegoating us. Let's take slavery as a first example. White Americans are guilty for black slavery in America. Everybody knows that, right?
Here's a scene from the (((Spielberg))) movie, "Amistad." Note the opening with a white man holding up a cross on a slave ship, followed by scenes of horrendous suffering and humiliation by black slaves:
So, here we have a Jew giving everyone the impression that white Christian men are responsible for the slave trade. Where are the small hats? We don't see them. Maybe they are back in America, underwriting the slave ship, or owning it. But who cares? Not the Jews.
Of course, only a tiny percentage of Americans actually owned slaves, maybe 2% of them at the height of the slave trade, right? Jefferson had to send the Navy to stop Barbary pirates from capturing Americans for slavery. And many others were involved in slavery. Black Africans themselves sold slaves in Africa, some blacks in America owned black slaves, and even some Indians owned black slaves. South Americans owned black slaves. And Jews owned black slaves.
Various sources, including Jewish sources, have claimed that 40% of Jewish households in America owned black slaves. Of course, you'll probably dispute these assertions, and it's hard to find a reliable scholarly source. David Duke cites Jewish sources, but you have already rejected Jewish publications as possibly not true. What do you think - they were bragging to themselves?
Here's a source you may be able to accept, concerning (((Aaron Lopez))), the wealthiest person in Newport, RI by the early 1770's, and a man who owned slave ships, according to Jewish sources cited by David Duke. The Wikipedia article describes him as "underwriting" slave ships. This in an age when we have to hear endlessly about the guilt of men like Washington, who did not underwrite slave ships, and who freed his slaves. The whole article seems geared towards minimizing the slave angle, but the man was clearly not without guilt:
It is white people who ended the slave trade in America. Why don't Jews stop pointing the finger at us, and publicly accept their part in it? They control most of the media. Why don't they clear this up for the dumbed down masses?
Here's the Wikipedia article about Washington for comparison on treatment of the slave issue:
Perhaps Americans richly deserve the criticism. The article explains that 60 million people are fleeing for their lives from desperate circumstances, many Americans are denying all responsibility and working to keep borders closed. The author, Jonathan Greenblatt, draws a comparison to a situation at the onset of WWII:Jews like to further their victim mentality and put down white Americans with articles like this one from the ADL: