In my conversation with Miss Kitty, I was including the Italians and Spaniards in my definition of "Northern European". Are you happy now?
March 28: 'Jews' as a Scapegoat Class
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Richard Stanley
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No. If Spaniards and Italians are Northern Europeans, then what 'prey' tell are Southern Europeans? From Greece, or Malta, or Corsica, or Sicily?
The entire continent of Europe is north of the equator, just like the entire continent of North America. There is no such thing as 'Southern Europe' or 'South Europe'. For that matter, a big chunk of South America is north of the equator, who knew?? And I'm never going to say anything on the phone again.
Richard Stanley
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OMG!!!
You better tell that to the Nordic northern Europeans, who live to the north of the black-headed southern Europeans.
Does the USA have a North and South?
And what divides Western Europe from Eastern Europe?
The terms, north, west, south, east are all relative terms Jerry. And in Christ there is no such thing, as Miss Kitty knows.
And maybe, because you might have had some problems with geography, you need to reconvene that phone conversation question with Miss Kitty?
In any case, the Vikings, as the Rus, liked to enslave the Slavs, selling them to the Byzantine Christians, the Arabs, and the Turks. While the Nordic jarls becme the English, err, Norman earls, who kept their serfs just like the Roman papists did, and before that the sons of Joseph did for the 'pharaoh'.
The white Boston brahmins hired good ol' white Christian boys from the South (of the USA) to manage the Jamaicans and such that they imported into Central America to raise the bananas that Miss Kitty liked to slice onto her breakfast cereal as a girl. They paid them just enough that they could buy their viddles an other 'necessities' at the banana companys' company stores. Therefore, they ain't be no proper slaves, yet slaves nonetheless.
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Now you're just trying to confuse me. Alabama is not in South America.
That's correct, but we were having a conversation in absolute, categorical terms. I knew exactly what I was talking about. And Miss Kitty knew exactly what I was talking about too, even though (in retrospect) we can't agree on what that was.
From now on I think Miss Kitty will want to get everything in writing.
Richard Stanley
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You've given me no confidence here, in either Miss Kitty's geography or yours. For myself I got an A+ in both Geography, and Geometry.
As such, there is a distinct Northern Europe as opposed to Southern Europe. Africa need not apply. The geography of North and South Europe is also roughly corresponding to their peoples and religio-cultural orientations, mainly Protestant vs. Catholic.
Indeed our phone conversation deserves no confidence.
In an effort to redeem myself from this fiasco, I hereby concede that Southern Europe does indeed exist. Although I continue to maintain that there is no such continent as South Europe. In my discussion with Miss Kitty, I was obviously referring to the continent of North Europe, which is universally known as Europe.
Miss Kitty
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You are aware that Jews were expelled over one hundred times because people considered them uniquely evil(?) And you realize by advocating the same idea about us, which is very common now, you are setting us up for genocide. Are you suicidal? Please don't get into analyzing exactly what the charges were in all the different places Jews were expelled. Obviously, people thought they were up to no good.
You are the only person who did not express any sympathy for my tragic bitcoin story. You can't even imagine how upset Ali was. The fact is, I did buy them. Your idea is a mere after the fact fantasy, and not at all a similar experience. You really need to develop a little empathy, or at least learn to mimic some.
So, any participation of any kind by members of another group means that Jews are scapegoats? Even if Jews are the originators of a disaster, such as replacement level immigration in America, because others were duped or joined in later that means Jews can't be responsible? Please take a look at this short video, paying particular attention to the conclusion:
It's "Culture of Critique for Normies - Part VII - Diversifying America" in case you have time...
I relate to this video because I myself had been sold on Jewish multi culti ideas, and I had no idea that this country had really not been about that AT ALL. And now we're all fucked up and on the brink of civil war because of all the different people in one territory, and I observe, the Jews and others pushing race hate, particularly of white Americans.
Jerry, again, you are too literal. I was joking about common Jewish behavior (making moral hazards and hating Christians), and a common Jewish accusation (you are an anti-semite), and a common Jewish fear (you will try to kill the Jews). The implied answer (to the Jew) is, "No, I hate you because you are making violent porn." Jews engage in horrible behavior, then think people hate them because they're Jewish. No self criticism whatsoever. It's crazy.
Jewish humor:
Again, so exacting. Cut me some slack. You know what I mean. But wait, I said I'd stop being so lazy, didn't I? Or I said I'd try to be more precise! Jews are accusing us of terrible things all the time, and constantly taking a defensive attitude towards white Americans, when Americans fucking died in that war. We could have sided with the Germans or stayed out of it, you know - if Chruchill hadn't been under Jewish control because they were paying for his country estate!
Jews are a major MAJOR drivers. They are passing laws to stop people from boycotting Israel. It's outrageous! I've read they made anti-semitism an executable offense in the Soviet Union. I admit, I didn't check it out.
I think the country will break up into territories. I hope we have ten or fifteen years left. Most people will split along racial lines. Multi cultural cities are that way already. There are Jewish neighborhoods, Mexican neighborhoods, Asian neighborhoods, etc., already. To be exact, I'm talking about neighborhoods that are 80-90% one race - like my neighborhood and Mom's neighborhood. Places of worship tend to be very largely homogeneous, also. I think real multi culti areas are usually transient and/or artificial (forced by government programs). A downtown apartment building where people move frequently and where you usually don't know your neighbors might be more multi culti. The Camden Hollywood, where my airbnb is, started multi culti, but now it's mostly black.
I hope it can be done without a war. But I may leave to the Italian countryside, if it isn't too late.
Someone I read says that the military has run endless scenarios. The far right always wins. The military is full of people like us.
But I have to say, that article you sent me about people laughing about launching nukes, but the media didn't care, probably means the Jews do have control of the nukes.And BTW, if you believe a war scenario is likely, why do you think open borders are good? You don't want 200,000 Guatemalans in Eugene. NO, YOU DO NOT.
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My explanation is that they were expelled because they were scapegoated. Blamed as Christ killers.
Tell the truth, no fear, and let the chips fall where they may. And furthermore, the whole concept of "white genocide" is a false extrapolation.
How else are you going to know the facts, if you aren't willing to do the research? Although the charges have always been very similar as far as I know. Blood libel and witch-hunts and blame for lending with interest.
OK. I'm also sorry that you (or I) didn't buy Apple in 1981, or Microsoft in 1986, or Amazon (or any of those others) in 2002 after the first NASDAQ crash. There have been lots of missed opportunities that other people were able to take advantage of. If we'd been smarter, we could've been billionaires. Sucks that we aren't. Does that help?
Richard Stanley
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Miss Kitty, please do not respond by typing inside the quotes. It makes responding to you more difficult.
You should be kissing the "Christ-killers" asses, because without them fake killing fake Jesus for you, you wouldn't have that dumb slave religion that you love so much. In this case, a mind-slave religion based upon the Stockholm Syndrome.
On second thought, maybe you should become a Pastafarian, whether you emigrate to Italy or not.
Could we please not bundle all White Christians as cannibals and such though, as many are decent folk, as opposed to the Volk. I get so tired of being steered into this by such semantic Pharisicism. What was that semantic trick you just admitted to Miss Kitty?
Jerry is wrong I'm guessing about such people having control over the military, and besides the ground troops of the Taliban, as proven by their allies in Afghanistan can easily perform asymmetric tactics and strategy to deal with air weapons. Nukes are mostly a non-starter except in the most extreme circumstances.
If the country merely (and doubtfully) divides 'peacefully', then the White former red states will be in a world of hurt, given their historical and present state of leeching off of blue states. Besides shutting them off from the porn they disproportionately love so much, they wont have any more socialist subsidies for their crops, and then where will they get their opiates from? From the overpriced black market?
Generally, people flee from war zones, unless they are mercenaries, of course.
Speaking of Pharisees Miss Kitty, did you know that Josephus Flavius, the elite (faux) Jewish guy who helped the Romans create the slave religion, Christianity, stated that the Romans exterminated one of two schools of Pharisees while leaving the second one be. The second one became today's Talmudic rabbis.
Like the expelled Jews, the Jesuits were expelled and (fake) Disestablished in the years immediately before the American Revolution, supposedly for being so politically disruptive, especially in Catholic countries of all places. They even supposedly had thousands (fake) of Jesu killed by their own Church. As a result, because of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" principle, the dumb ass Protestant American colonists decided to accept Jesuits into the colonies in large numbers. After a biblical period of 40 years, one generation (remember Scofield), the Antidisestablishment pressure got those once evil Jesuits welcomed back into the Catholic fold with great warmth. As a result, the Jesuit form of Catholicism is dominant in the USA, and Catholicism is the dominant political force in this once 'White' Protestant nation of Proud Boys, Klu Kluxers or not.
So while y'all are in another traditional, irrational, beehive tizzy, something else much larger is what's really going on. And y'all are going to get a lot of white folk and volk killed along with a lot of innocents, albeit 'someone' has indeed been stirring the nest up.
In reality, the 'dead' Jesuits just went underground and joined such as the French Grand Orient Freemasonry and the new Bavarian Illuminati. Bavaria is where the Trump invaders came from and where Hitler got his political start BTW.
HELLO!!!! That's what the whole point about the False Dialectic of Western Civilization is, and you keep taking the bait. Unfortunately, you've triggered upon the subissue of the "scapegoat" that prevents you from understanding the root issue. You virtual Jews are just as stiff-necked as the fake Ashkenazi Jews (your neighbors), and the OG Jews, who were mostly Canaanites to begin with.
You should be kissing the "Christ-killers" asses, because without them fake killing fake Jesus for you, you wouldn't have that dumb slave religion that you love so much. In this case, a mind-slave religion based upon the Stockholm Syndrome.
On second thought, maybe you should become a Pastafarian, whether you emigrate to Italy or not.
Militia leader Ammon Bundy, famous for leading an armed standoff in Oregon, had a tender moment in November of last year. He recorded a Facebook post saying that perhaps President Trump's characterization of the migrant caravan on the U.S.-Mexico border was somewhat broad. Maybe they weren't all criminals, he said. "What about those who have come here for reasons of need?"
Bundy did not say he was breaking with Trump. He just asked his followers to put themselves in the shoes of "the fathers, the mothers, the children" who came to escape violence. It was a call for a truce grounded in empathy, the kind you might hear in a war zone, say, or an Easter Sunday sermon. Still, it was met with a swift and rageful response from his followers, so overwhelming that within days, Bundy decided to quit Facebook.
In an earlier era, Bundy's appeal might have resonated. But he failed to tune in to a critical shift in American culture — one that a handful of researchers have been tracking, with some alarm, for the past decade or so. Americans these days seem to be losing their appetite for empathy, especially the walk-a-mile-in-someone's-shoes Easter Sunday morning kind. ...
Bundy, of course, is a Mormon, and he should have known better about what the virtual cannibals that the White Christian Taliban are.Could we please not bundle all White Christians as cannibals and such though, as many are decent folk, as opposed to the Volk. I get so tired of being steered into this by such semantic Pharisicism. What was that semantic trick you just admitted to Miss Kitty?
Jerry is wrong I'm guessing about such people having control over the military, and besides the ground troops of the Taliban, as proven by their allies in Afghanistan can easily perform asymmetric tactics and strategy to deal with air weapons. Nukes are mostly a non-starter except in the most extreme circumstances.
If the country merely (and doubtfully) divides 'peacefully', then the White former red states will be in a world of hurt, given their historical and present state of leeching off of blue states. Besides shutting them off from the porn they disproportionately love so much, they wont have any more socialist subsidies for their crops, and then where will they get their opiates from? From the overpriced black market?
Generally, people flee from war zones, unless they are mercenaries, of course.
Speaking of Pharisees Miss Kitty, did you know that Josephus Flavius, the elite (faux) Jewish guy who helped the Romans create the slave religion, Christianity, stated that the Romans exterminated one of two schools of Pharisees while leaving the second one be. The second one became today's Talmudic rabbis.
Like the expelled Jews, the Jesuits were expelled and (fake) Disestablished in the years immediately before the American Revolution, supposedly for being so politically disruptive, especially in Catholic countries of all places. They even supposedly had thousands (fake) of Jesu killed by their own Church. As a result, because of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" principle, the dumb ass Protestant American colonists decided to accept Jesuits into the colonies in large numbers. After a biblical period of 40 years, one generation (remember Scofield), the Antidisestablishment pressure got those once evil Jesuits welcomed back into the Catholic fold with great warmth. As a result, the Jesuit form of Catholicism is dominant in the USA, and Catholicism is the dominant political force in this once 'White' Protestant nation of Proud Boys, Klu Kluxers or not.
So while y'all are in another traditional, irrational, beehive tizzy, something else much larger is what's really going on. And y'all are going to get a lot of white folk and volk killed along with a lot of innocents, albeit 'someone' has indeed been stirring the nest up.
In reality, the 'dead' Jesuits just went underground and joined such as the French Grand Orient Freemasonry and the new Bavarian Illuminati. Bavaria is where the Trump invaders came from and where Hitler got his political start BTW.
Here's how I'd summarize this. When it comes to changes in the immigration law, Jews took a heroic stand which was supported by many Americans of good will, as well as by Catholics and business leaders. And, yes: blaming Jews exclusively, for a wonderful change that was supported by a majority of Americans of all races and creeds, is absolutely a form of scapegoating.
Although I know it wasn't the video maker's intent, I was very satisfied to see the quote that "America is a nation of ideas, not of people." Like for example, Thomas Jefferson saying "all men are created equal." You can't tell a black man or a Jew (or for that matter, a black or Jewish woman or transsexual) that they are less equal than a white person, just because of their race.
The video mentioned "scientific racism" and eugenics. That line of thinking is thoroughly discredited, and for very good reason.
"Replacement level immigration in America", a disaster? I haven't agreed to that. For one thing, "replacement" is not an accurate description, because whites are not being replaced. Whites are still here, and other races are also here. An addition, not a replacement.
If multiculturalism presents challenges, then I say those challenges need to be addressed.
The video quoted some fellow who said that America was founded as an Anglo-Saxon country. This is false on multiple grounds. Of course it originally belonged to the Native Americans, an Eastern European race. The original 13 colonies were settled not only by the British protestants, but also by the Dutch, Swedes, British Catholics, and Germans. Louisiana was colonized by France, and Alaska by the Russians. So the growing US annexed all these peoples.
Texas, Florida and California were Spanish colonies, along with Mexico and much of South America. So most of the immigrants you're concerned about, are genetically an admixture of Spanish and Native American descent. Spain is part of Europe, and a component of Western Civilization, right?
Italy didn't colonize anywhere in the Americas, but oddly they had a finger in every pie. The explorers Christopher Columbus, John Cabot, and Amerigo Vespucci were all Italian.
If "scapegoat" is just a subissue, then I don't know what the root issue is either?
I'm not making any predictions, other than to say that in the event of a civil war, control of the military apparatus will be decisive. I believe it's very plausible that one side or the other will wind up in control of the federal government and the war machine.
People say that the US lost the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, but I'm not so sure. Certainly the economies of those countries, and the lives of their people, have been devastated. The American/NATO military is still present in both countries, having returned to Iraq in 2014. And, the West gets the opium and the oil.
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Richard Stanley
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The very next sentence of mine provided the answer, the human (synthetic) 'genesis' of the False Dialectic of Western Civilization. Having an institutional human scapegoat class then becomes subsumed under that larger umbrella. And, as stated before, the scapegoats fill a dual use technology as sheepdogs.
The Jews's (and Christians) own holy book has the formation of their synthetic (Phoenician) tribe as stemming from a shiksa, no less, having to con father-in-law Judah into procreating with her. It involves Tamar, posing as a street hooker, taking Judah's three items of his personal Identity as collateral in exchange for boinking her. When Judah proclaims that he can't possibly be the father of Tamar's child, she shows him his three items of personal identity. Thus, the tribe of Judah.
Judah, the son of the hated wife, Leah, is the one who convinces his brothers to sell Joseph into slavery for a few coins. The progeny of Judah, throughout the Jews (and Christian) holy book, perform one problematic act after another, reaching its peak, or bottom, by killing fellow Jew, Jesus. Jesus, that guy who had a problem with Greek pigs, because they had no eyes to see, or ears to hear.
Meaning people who can't discern such as subtext. The serfer Christians, superficially as always, will say: "Ahah, you see, even the Jews own holy words say that they are evil". But, Levites Moses (actually pharaoh) and Aaron, imposed the Cultural Inversion upon the 'Hebrews' (aka the broader Canaanite Israelites), meaning that the 'original' Judaeans and their Hebrew neighbors were not of the later 'Jewish' Culture.
The pharaoh(s) synthetically created the Jews as a living, eternal piñata for the muggles to bash, distracting the muggles from who created the system in the first place.
As I've explained, the Scapegoat concept was not a new invention (either) of the day, as the practice of using a human scapegoat exists in primitive human tribes even today. The Trumplike leader of a tribe and his coterie of brown nose-ers picks out a hapless human patsy to be the goat and they are thus absolved of blame.
Thus, it's no wonder that Jews are collectively neurotic, they have to live around ignorant, induced schizo-paranoics, aka serfer class White people.
Further, I find it most sardonic that Italy would allow immigration residence status to People 1 that wont allow People 2 seeking asylum from violence caused by the faux heroes of People 1. And furthermore, that it all originated in Italy to begin with.
As for the war, ultimately it will be won by the Globalizers, as this is the subtext of the serfers' own holy books, the basis of their Pied Piper, schizo cannibal culture.
I would've said that the entire system pivots around the scapegoat idea. But, I see what you're saying.
There's a new Italian immigration law which is rather complex. I think it's still an EU requirement to accept some asylum seekers, though the italians are trying to establish some limits. As for Miss Kitty, it seems she'll need either a very good immigration lawyer, or 500,000 euro, or both.
https://www.politico.eu/article/an-italian-residence-permit-yours-for-e500000-reduce-debt-migration-schengen-area/
Miss Kitty
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True, it takes very few Jews to subvert a society.
Immigration into Europe is not driven by population pressures at all. Europe has hostile elites that do not care about the native cultures and populations - like America. We had no problem with Mexicans coming in prior to 1965. How can you believe something so ridiculous? A country that wants to keep people out, keeps people out - like Israel. Americans pay for Israeli walls, and those walls work.
Here's a Jew pushing multi culti in Sweden and Europe, and admitting that Jews will be resented because of it:
Here's a rabbi admitting that Jews are pushing third world immigration, but he does the usual Jewish move: he claims that the Jews who do this are not following the scripture and are, therefore, not really Jews. It's like claiming that Bolshevic Jews were not Jews because they were atheists. Israel now defines Jews by DNA. In the end, the rabbi supports ethnic/cultural nation states for all.
I think pattern recognition is key to understanding why people get so upset with Jews. They are so small in numbers, and yet they are so prominent in so many areas that subvert culture. E. Michael Jones calls this "the Jewish Revolutionary Spirit." He claims they can't help it. They are just gonna keep trying.
Here's a research question for you, Miss Kitty.
In all the hundred plus times when Jews have been expelled from a society, in the last 2000 years, has anything ever actually gotten better as a result? Or do the same old problems persist or get worse?
In all the hundred plus times when Jews have been expelled from a society, in the last 2000 years, has anything ever actually gotten better as a result? Or do the same old problems persist or get worse?
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Miss Kitty
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I had to look up atavistic, too, when I first saw it. I thought, wow, it's true! They hate us! And I had no idea! That explains a lot. Atavistic hate is still hate.
Right now, people are afraid to talk about Jews, and Jews are desperately trying to shut down talk about Jews with name calling, guilt tripping about the Holocaust, Hollywood propaganda, etc. Being an American, I can't stand any attempt to shut down discussion about anything! And I don't think it's helpful to Jews! When you wake up to it, you think, Man, these people are sneaky!
My whole life, I've been surrounded by Jews. Jaye Reiser was a Jew, remember her? I could have married a Jew I was dating at college. (His mother wanted to get rid of me, but it hardly registered. I just thought, you know, probably not a good situation to be in.) I didn't think about Jews at all! I thought they were just white people with a different religion. Funny little hats...
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I said that immigration into Europe is driven by two factors: basically, supply and demand. If there weren't a lot of people wanting to come in, it wouldn't be happening.
I agree, however, that countries making a determined effort to keep immigrants out, can accomplish that goal at least to some extent.
We're also into "pattern recognition", seeing the same situation repeated over and over in history. But, you keep focusing on just one little piece of the pattern. You're missing the bigger picture.
What we're saying is that if the oligarchs of "Western Civilization" want to get something done, and yet they know it will be unpopular, they don't act directly. Instead, they use the Jews as their advocates, to instigate the desired action. Rick likes to use the shepherd / sheepdog metaphor. The sheep see the dogs circling them, and don't understand that the sheepdogs are barking at them because they've been trained to act that way by the shepherds.
Israel Shahak studied the phenomenon of "court jews", that is, Jews deeply embedded into European royal courts, by marriage and as advisors. This phenomenon is clearly in play in Trump's family and his cabinet, with Jared Kushner.
Shahak showed that ever since late Roman times, the Jews were maintained & supported by European and Islamic royalty, as a fifth column, within and opposed to the broader society. The Jews had their own rulers and their own tax system. And, they were taught to despise the surrounding commoners, but to revere the king who was their benefactor. This "classical" system only broke down beginning in the 17th century, or perhaps it simply became more sophisticated.
See:
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/jewhis4.htm
The shepherd-sheepdog analogy breaks down, in the sense that from time to time the "sheep" turn against the "sheepdogs", and drive them away. The shepherds laugh at the stupid sheep, use their crooks directly to keep the sheep in orderly formation, and bring the sheepdogs back the next day.
Yes, you thought that, but it's not what the quote said. It said "Christian authority". I am not "Christian authority", and neither are you.
"the Jew" doesn't make violent porn. The quoted article identified a handful of specific Jewish porn makers, who have made millions if not billions of dollars catering to the demand for these videos. And, it mentions that Catholics eagerly participate as actors.
Do you realize, Miss Kitty, that the way you speak about Jews comes across as intensely hateful? When you accuse Jews of hating "us", it comes across as psychological projection? That is, seeing the same evil in another person, that you yourself are guilty of?
Now, you'll notice above that I've stated that Jews are indeed taught in the Talmud, to hate non-Jews in general, and Christians in particular. But fortunately, many or most Jews don't pay any attention to that wicked teaching.
Jewish pornographic film makers defend that activity on free speech grounds. But, it's generally agreed that there are limits to free speech. Yelling 'fire' in a crowded theatre is the standard example, and I think most people also support a ban on child pornography.
Can you understand that some people feel that incendiary hate speech such as you're expressing here, is in the same category as child porn or stampeding a theater? And furthermore, even if such speech is not criminalized -- there's no obligation on the part of a publisher or web host, to provide a forum for such hateful content?
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Miss Kitty
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Today is Passover, and this reminds me that Jews still like to remember having been victims of slavery in Egypt over 3000 years ago. It's a good time for them to express solidarity with American blacks and other minorities, who are the only ones in America who can truly comprehend their sufferings. It's amazing to me that, rather than openly lamenting their own part in the American slave trade, or expressing gratitude for the wealth and security they enjoy here on this occasion, Jews like to further their victim mentality and put down white Americans with articles like this one from the ADL:
https://www.adl.org/blog/this-passover-let-us-remember-that-once-we-were-strangers-too
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Perhaps Americans richly deserve the criticism. The article explains that 60 million people are fleeing for their lives from desperate circumstances, many Americans are denying all responsibility and working to keep borders closed. The author, Jonathan Greenblatt, draws a comparison to a situation at the onset of WWII:
In July 1938—three years after the Nuremberg Laws had stripped Jews of German citizenship, deprived them of most political rights, and left hundreds of thousands of Jews seeking international refuge—Fortune magazine asked Americans, “What is your attitude toward allowing German, Austrian, and other political refugees to come to the U.S.?” Shamefully, more than two-thirds said we should keep the refugees out.
The following year the St. Louis, carrying 937 German refugees—mostly Jews fleeing Nazi Germany—set sail for Cuba. Most had applied for U.S. visas. Turned away from Cuba, as the St. Louis sailed so close to Florida that the passengers could see the lights from Miami, they appealed to President Franklin D. Roosevelt to give them safe harbor. With public opinion opposed to lifting the stringent immigration quotas or to making an exception for the ship’s passengers, the St. Louis returned to Europe. Almost a quarter of the passengers perished in the Holocaust.
The article never actually mentions "white Americans". It speaks of "we", which is appropriate since Jewish people have been in America since colonial times, and there were 2 million Jewish people here in the USA by 1925.