Jerry Russell

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Are you serious?
Trying to be.

But, I would think "honeypots" would work best with mid-rank bureaucrats who can't afford to pay for their own escorts. Somebody like Trump: if he gets himself a Slovenian wife, isn't it because that's what he wants? So I don't get how this is supposed to work.
 

Richard Stanley

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There could be a lot of possible scenarios. Trump could be compromised, all that pelt grabbing and such. So she is assigned to him as Miss Pillow Talk.
 

Richard Stanley

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Unlike certain claims Richard is making about Melania Trump, nobody is asking you to believe anything without evidence.
Evidence? A high ranking Russian government official stated that Trump and Putin are twins. Why does the son look so much like Putin? There's no disputin Putin!!! This is incestuous cuckholding no less. How's this for evidence? Note that the man in the rear seat has had some hair added, maybe from his brother's pate.

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Jerry Russell

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A high ranking Russian government official stated that Trump and Putin are twins.
There are also claims that Trump is carrying Putin's baby. But we need to get a grip on the difference between metaphor and reality.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eliot-borenstein/is-donald-trump-carrying-_b_11184738.html

Although the author (Borenstein) says "a Trump/Putin lovechild is a clear and present danger", nevertheless he also states:

Putin and Trump are not twins separated by birth. In many crucial ways, they are opposites. Putin’s watchword is stability. Trump’s...do I even have to continue this sentence? I’m terrified of Trump getting his stubby little paws on the launch button.
This originally appeared in the Einhorn thread. The off-topic digression was all my fault, but I've done amends by moving it back to the Trump thread.
 
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Richard Stanley

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If we can obtain one or more of Trump's (and Putin's) teeth then his general foreign birthplace can be determined, as well as other factors. The birth certificate is obviously bogus.

The Lady of Fatima made an appearance to me last night and was adamant that he was an alien, but could not ascertain the exact locale of entry. Note the evidence of veracity as she could have just made all this up, but she chose to be properly circumspect (whatever that means), as she put it.

I just watched the history of his youth. He sounds like Superman. He even had to be first in the lunch line at military boarding school, no doubt where he learned to dodge the Vietnam War draft (with an inflamed foot boner).

Putin and Trump are not twins separated by birth. In many crucial ways, they are opposites.
This is correct. They are twins of the more normal fraternal variety, and not Siamese conjoined twins. Identical twins are normally very similar in personality, while fraternal twins can differ substantially. To be generous, it is possible that Putin and Trump shared the same womb, but different fathers, and so they could be half-twins, like Castor and Pollux (the half-twin brother saviors of the Greco-Romans).
 

Richard Stanley

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Now that we've settled the twin brother issue, I guess the debate should move on to who led the "Beer Hall Putsch". Trump at the Republican Debates, or Ann Coulter in Iowa? The following excerpted article discusses the Overton Window, of what is contextually permissable to discuss in a political context.

Earlier, in the first paragraph of the article it also touches on the ambiguous nature of the Alt-Right movement that allowed Trump to cuckhold them, as Hitler did IDENTICALLY with the NSDAP. It mentions "neo-monarchists" refering to Trump as their god-emperor, which is more than evoking der Fuhrer's position as leader of the Reich, the first reich being the Roman Empire, the second being the Holy Roman Empire (albeit some account it different with Napoleon included). This also touches on my discussion with 'ousia' about Libertarianism's curious association with the Mont Pellerin neo-monarchists. Neo-monarchists sponsoring Randian anarchists. Anything wrong with this picture? As I explained to ousia, yes, there is a lot wrong with it. Like Prussian aristocrats sponsoring 'Karl Marx wrong'.

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The morning after the election, an influential alt-right blogger who goes by Vox Day wrote, “Donald Trump has a lot to do . . . It is the Alt-Right’s job to move the Overton Window and give him conceptual room to work.” Day and his peers have been doing this job for months. They have flooded the Internet with offensive images and words—cartoon frogs emblazoned with swastikas, theories of racial hierarchy—and then ridiculed anyone who had the temerity to be offended. “Racism and sexism are a) human beliefs, and, b) as legitimately held as any other belief,” Day told me in a recent e-mail. No picture is shocking. No idea is bad. Who gets to define bad, anyway? “Remember that rhetoric is the art of emotional manipulation,” Day added. Last week, on his blog, Day wrote, “There is no more Republican vs. Democrat. It is now whites vs. non-whites and white quislings.”

Trump connected to the segment of the population that was prepared to believe that racism was realism, misogyny was locker-room talk, inconvenient facts were media myths, and viciousness was the new normal. Just as surely as he has redrawn the electoral map, he has radically altered the Overton window. No Presidential candidate before him had ever mocked a disabled reporter, or bragged about his penis size during a debate. What kept every other candidate before him from stooping to these tactics, presumably, was deference to social norms. But norms can be swept aside.

On Election Day, I stood outside a small Methodist church in Greensboro, North Carolina, that was serving as a polling place. Standing next to me, passing out flyers promoting a candidate for district-court judge, was a man named Larry, an African-American in his sixties. He made amiable small talk with everyone who passed, including people wearing pro-Trump T-shirts. “I know I don’t want that crazy man to be President, but I don’t have hate in my heart for anybody,” he said. Just before nightfall, a white man with a gray beard left the polls. On his way to the parking lot, he stopped in front of Larry and delivered an unsolicited monologue about why he had just cast his vote for Trump. “Bill Clinton has an illegitimate mulatto child—you know that, don’t you?” the man said. “That’s fine; I’m O.K. with mixed people, but I’m just saying—why doesn’t he talk about it?” The man mentioned George Wallace, and segregation, and the myriad pathologies he ascribed to “the inner city.” Larry looked at the pavement and didn’t say much. Eventually, the man got in his car and drove away. When he was gone, Larry said, “I’ve seen a lot in this state. I’ve known people whose kin got lynched. In the last twenty years, or thirty, you didn’t hear people saying the things that man said. These days, suddenly, they feel like they’re allowed to say it.”

http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/the-alt-right-hails-its-victorious-god-emperor?mbid=gnep&intcid=gnep&google_editors_picks=true
 

Richard Stanley

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This is correct. They are twins of the more normal fraternal variety, and not Siamese conjoined twins. Identical twins are normally very similar in personality, while fraternal twins can differ substantially. To be generous, it is possible that Putin and Trump shared the same womb, but different fathers, and so they could be half-twins, like Castor and Pollux (the half-twin brother saviors of the Greco-Romans).
Sorry to beat a dead horse, but I just remembered that the statement referenced above about their not being brothers "separated by birth" is also likely meaning that they were both removed from their mother's womb by Caesarian Section. Hence they were never 'born' ala naturale, like Julius.

Hello!!!! Putin is the new Czar (Caesar), as is twin brother Trump - who will finish the destruction of the Glorious Republic.

Maybe this is also why The Donald likes to grab women by the beaver pelt, because he never came from there?
 

Richard Stanley

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Well, actions speak louder than words, and Trump is making Preibus and Bannon co-equals at his top aides.

Priapus and Boner. With Nixon it was said: "Don't change dicks in the middle of a screw". Now Trump can manage doing so.

Preibus is the "inside" man and Bannon is the "outside" man. This is starting to appear like 50 Shades of The Hidden Hitler (Tibor Machtan). Well, Julius Caesar was bisexual, and Jesus of Nazareth was NOT a normative Jew in remaining single.

All seriousness aside, the selection of these two should indicate that Trump is up for some internal White House fireworks, as others are suggesting. And here I think this is indicative of his being a globalist fox in the White Nationalist Zealot's henhouse. I'm guessing from his background bona fides (Catholic, Navy, Georgetown, Harvard, Wall Street) that Bannon is globalist Cointelpro as well. Why would someone go from a Master's Degree in National Security from Georgetown to running an extremist Alt-Right Interwebz outlet? Is this our Goebbels or Himmler?

Trump stated that he did not know of his Brown Shirts actions since the election, only the protests against him. And so he limply says to his Brown Shirts: "Stop fellas". This while he continues to Tweet about other matters and says he will continue to do so.
 

Richard Stanley

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What Trump may or may not accomplish in a few months or years is besides the point, for anyone with a conscience that is, and cared about the ideals they were raised with. As I stated before, even Hitler and Mussolini made the trains run on time, ... and more. That I was cynical about the process before, Trump has only made it worse. Sardonically the best we might hope for is that Trump is going to pull the rug out from under his Brown Shirts.

The following excerpt is from a letter by a Joseph Britt from Wisconsin, a traditional Republican with the same underlying concerns.

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They
[the writer's fellow expedient Republicans - rs] knew Donald Trump was ignorant and dishonest, and it didn’t matter to them. They knew he was a sex predator who fathered children by various women, and it didn’t matter. Cheating on his taxes, cheating on his wives, consumer fraud, the bogus charity, the sponsorship of the Russian intelligence services, the anti-Semitic associates, cheating contractors who had done work for him, the picking on individuals before massive rallies, the insufferable racism, the continual running down of America—none of that mattered.

No, the only thing that mattered to Republicans of means once Trump was nominated by the Republican Party was that he had been nominated by the Republican Party. Loyalty to party took precedence over loyalty to American democracy, its mission, and traditions. What counted—all that counted—was that Trump had been chosen to lead Our Team.

What a pathetic thing is decadence. Millions of Republicans as comfortable and secure as any people who have ever lived, who owe everything to the historic miracle that is the United States, chose to go along with a presidential candidacy shot through with moral degeneracy and contempt for the public good. They had other choices in the primaries; they were warned by their own former leaders what Trump represented. They voted for him anyway, hoping to give their team a win in the game, the shallow entertainment that is all they think of politics.

They have put this Republic that has been the light of the world for 240 years in danger. They have put freedom in danger. Years of easy prosperity and soft living have taught them that America could be taken for granted. Lincoln, Roosevelt, Stimson, Eisenhower, Reagan might just as well be random groups of letters to these people, stifled by material wealth and physical sensation.

They will have second thoughts, these comfortable Republicans of means. They will flake off from Trump long before the sad nostalgists and struggling rural voters who actually believe his promises of magic. They will lower his approval ratings. But they made him President, and gave him a Congress full of cyphers, slackwits, and doddering old men to work with. What a price our country and the world will pay, and for how long they will pay it, because those Americans most richly blessed failed so completely in their duty as citizens.

http://www.theatlantic.com/notes/2016/11/after-the-election-what-a-pathetic-thing-is-decadence/507635/
 

Richard Stanley

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Did the Koch bros help Trump this election? Seems like they were ineffective.
The Koch brothers are very cagey. Being the major backers of the Tea Party, and the Libertarians before that, they pulled away from Trump, claiming they were offended. But they did more than just help light the match.
 

Richard Stanley

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I'm guessing from his background bona fides (Catholic, Navy, Georgetown, Harvard, Wall Street) that Bannon is globalist Cointelpro as well. Why would someone go from a Master's Degree in National Security from Georgetown to running an extremist Alt-Right Interwebz outlet? Is this our Goebbels or Himmler?
This morning I happened to catch the Morning Joe clip referenced below. Mr. Priapus said that Mr. Boner also attended the elite London School of Economics as well as Georgetown and Harvard. Quite a CV for a seeming looney extremist. If we remember, I posted somewhere on the forum that Bannon and Breitbart News had established an extremely sophisticated data mining operation to feed (predominantly accurate) data about left pols to the MSM.

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Scarborough began the interview by asking, "There are some concerns about Steve Bannon because of the Breitbart connections. What would you say to those people that have those concerns right now?"

Priebus replied, "That's not the Steve Bannon that I know and I've spent a lot of time with him. And here's a guy who's a Harvard Business School, London School of Economics, 10-year Naval officer advising admirals. He was a force for good on the campaign at every level that I saw, all the time." ...

http://crooksandliars.com/2016/11/reince-priebus-tries-normalize-steve
 

Jerry Russell

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Richard, would you be significantly happier, or feeling that the world is in better hands, if Hillary had won the election? We'd just be complaining about Huma Abedin and John Podesta, instead of 'Priapus' and 'Boner', right?

Bannon and Breitbart News had established an extremely sophisticated data mining operation to feed (predominantly accurate) data about left pols to the MSM.
Breitbart does have their bias, but considering the scale of their operation, the few outright factual errors that have been caught strike me as entirely trivial. I seriously doubt that Reuters or AP does any better.
 

Richard Stanley

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Richard, would you be significantly happier, or feeling that the world is in better hands, if Hillary had won the election? We'd just be complaining about Huma Abedin and John Podesta, instead of 'Priapus' and 'Boner', right?
No I would not feel any better Jerry, excepting that Hillary conveys the sense of a known quantity without as much of the Nazi parallels.

Funny that Abedin's recent ex is a Weiner. :D:D:D:D And I think that this whole email affair with him and Comey was rigged, the October Surprise du siecle.

Breitbart does have their bias, but considering the scale of their operation, the few outright factual errors that have been caught strike me as entirely trivial. I seriously doubt that Reuters or AP does any better.
Accuracy was not the point Jerry. My point is pointing out that Bannon is very, very sophisticated, far above the level of the Brown Shirts that paid his salary recently. Hitler's inner circle was similarly very sophisticated. I'll bet that Bannon did not dress like he does now while he worked on Wall Street, or give that affect while he was briefing admirals at the Pentagon.

Priapus is claiming in that clip that Boner was a calming influence on Trump's hard on. Thank Dogod.

The two have apparently talked Trump into allowing some see-through panties in certain stretches of The Wall, but the Wall will be built and gilt.

Trump is going to keep two expensive provisions of Obamacare, so he is apparently going to rebrand Obamacare with his own name. The hillbillies liked the ACA, but they did not like Obamacare. It was the same thing. Who knows, maybe we'll finally get Single Payer after all.
 

Richard Stanley

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Chinese Wall?

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Trump tweeted Putin a personal invitation to attend the pageant, and a one-on-one meeting between the New York businessman and the Russian leader was scheduled for the day before the show.

Putin canceled at the last minute, but he sent a decorative lacquered box, a traditional Russian gift, and a warm note, according to Aras Agalarov, a Moscow billionaire who served as a liaison between Trump and the Russian leader.

Still, the weekend was fruitful for Trump. He received a portion of the $14 million paid by Agalarov and other investors to bring the pageant to Moscow. Agalarov said he and Trump signed an agreement to build a Trump Tower in the heart of Moscow — at least Trump’s fifth attempt at such a venture. And Trump seemed energized by his interactions with Russia’s financial elite at the pageant and a glitzy after-party in a Moscow nightclub.

Almost all of the oligarchs were in the room,” Trump bragged to Real Estate Weekly upon returning home.

Trump’s relationship with Putin and his warm views toward Russia, which began in the 1980s when the country was still part of the Soviet Union, have emerged as one of the more curious aspects of his presidential campaign.

[Read biographical stories about presumptive GOP nominee Donald Trump]

The overwhelming consensus among American political and national security leaders has held that Putin is a pariah who disregards human rights and has violated international norms in seeking to regain influence and territory in the former Soviet bloc. In 2012, one year before Trump brought his beauty pageant to Moscow, then-Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney called Russia the United States’ top geopolitical threat — an assessment that has only gained currency since then.

Trump has conveyed a different view, informed in part through his business ambitions. Since the 1980s, Trump and his family members have made numerous trips to Moscow in search of business opportunities, and they have relied on Russian investors to buy their properties around the world.


“Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets,” Trump’s son, Donald Jr., told a real estate conference in 2008, according to an account posted on the website of eTurboNews, a trade publication. “We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia.”


The dynamic illustrates the extent to which Trump’s worldview has been formed through the lens of commerce rather than the think tanks, government deliberations and international diplomatic conferences that typically shape the foreign policy positions of presidential candidates.

It also reflects Trump’s willingness to see world leaders through his own personal connections. In a Republican Party in which an ability to stand up to Putin has been seen as a test of toughness, Trump’s relationship with the Russian leader is instead one of mutual flattery. Putin said in December that Trump was a “colorful and talented” person, a compliment that Trump said at the time was an “honor.” ...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/inside-trumps-financial-ties-to-russia-and-his-unusual-flattery-of-vladimir-putin/2016/06/17/dbdcaac8-31a6-11e6-8ff7-7b6c1998b7a0_story.html
 

Richard Stanley

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President-elect The Donald just had Mitt Romney (amid many others) pay him a visit, ostensibly to apply for a job as Secretary of State. What in the world Mitt Romney knows about affairs of state is beyond me, other than when he sat out the Vietnam War as a Mormon missionary in France, of all places.

But more than this, we have the specter of The Donald stating that he could make Romney "get down on his knees before him". Far be it from me to make the rude suggestion that this is a crude locker room allusion to some kind of act besides paying mere platonic obeisance via such traditional, old school, submission to the dominant Man (it was only until relatively recent times that one yet had to kiss the feet of the Pope). So I'll let someone else do so. It appears that Google has censored the video clip, but I just saw it yesterday on my news feed.

"Do I love the Mormons? I have many friends that live in Salt Lake City -- and by the way, Mitt Romney is not one of them," Trump said to applause. "Are you sure he's a Mormon? Are we sure?"
http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/18/politics/donald-trump-mormon-mitt-romney-utah/index.html

Utah was supposed to be a difficult state for Trump, but it turned out to be no problem. It seems many Mormons hid their preferences from the pollsters.

Prurient considerations aside, how humiliating should this be for not only Mitt Romney, but Mormons in general, even if all we were doing was watching Romney come and pay his respects. After all, Mitt Romney is the virtual Mormon Pope, albeit not the official leader (president) of the cult. Romney almost gave as good as he got during the election cycle, and now they kiss and make up?

... “We discussed those areas and exchanged our views on those topics. A very thorough and in-depth discussion in the time we had and appreciate the chance to speak with the president-elect and look forward to the coming administration.

Romney did not say whether the two discussed a possible cabinet position.

The 2012 GOP presidential nominee was a vocal critic of Trump's candidacy and blasted the businessman during a speech in March, accusing Trump of conning Americans.

"Donald Trump is a phony, a fraud," Romney said at the time. "His promises are as worthless as a degree from Trump University. He’s playing the American public for suckers: He gets a free ride to the White House and all we get is a lousy hat."

Trump's transition team has said that some of the president-elect’s meetings this weekend are to solicit advice, and not all of his guests at the Bedminster, N.J., club are under consideration for cabinet posts.

As Romney approached reporters on Saturday, Trump remained near the front door of the clubhouse, cupping his hands around his mouth and calling out, "It went great." ...

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/306900-romney-looking-forward-to-trump-administration

Who's the "sucker" now?

Of course, this is no reason for evangelicals, like Southern Baptists, to get all excited as they all have gotten their noses turned a dark shade of fudge brown. But this wont be all they have to look forward to as The Donald is going to make them all bend over and hold on tight to their ankles.
 

Richard Stanley

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The recent Members Only episode of South Park picks up the Trump fellatio theme from the just prior post, as well as several other cogent aspects of the Trump phenomenon. The 'members' aspect refers to the prior episode of the 'Mem-berries', a clever mechanism to convey that people are having their memories of "the good old days" being toyed with by the shepherds, as agitprop.
 
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