Richard Stanley

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It's known that after Wikileaks dumped information about Hillary Clinton, polls about her victory dropped, while before she was given as winner. So we can really say that those leaks determined the victory of Trump. Well, those hacked documents were received by Wikileaks from Russian hackers. Assange did a very stupid thing, by publishing documents that helped elect the man who would later pursue his destruction. Assange was not trying to help Trump to be elected, he just had a bad opinion of both candidates.
As has been discussed on this thread several times, the circumstances of the election and the campaigns made several factors come into play, any one of which could have determined the outcome. Therefore, we are left to twiddle our fingers about what actual weight to give the Wikileaks dump.

In any case, I'm not at all certain if you have read those discussions or pondered those considerations, and I'm not going to reiterate them in detail ... again.

I will only address here that the Clintons were considered political geniuses, and their collective genius fell flat on the floor for 2018. They are corporate Neoliberals from day one of their Partnership in Power (there is a book by that name). They are Machiavellian actors in a larger Machiavellian construct, as is Donald John Trump. The Clintons played the role of fake populists before (their good personal friend) Trump came along to fake challenge Hillary. So, they had to have understood everything that Trump was doing, and Hillary played into that hand.

Both the RNC and the DNC rigged their operations so that we got the result we did, else we would now have a President Sanders. This is what the political parties have always done, nothing new here.

[Off topic discussion about 9/11 moved here: https://postflaviana.org/community/index.php?threads/9-11-the-demolition-of-truth.2480/]
 
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Jerry Russell

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I know that very well, after having been a convinced conspiracy theorist for 18 years, starting exactly with 9/11.
But you're still a convinced conspiracy theorist. You think there's a conspiracy to convince people that MMGW is a real problem, and that 5G cell phone radiation might be dangerous.

Here is witness Fiona Hill talking, former deputy assistant to the president and senior director for Europe and Russia on the National Security Council. She is not supportive of a specific party and has served different presidents.
In other words, a permanent Deep State operative.

It's known that after Wikileaks dumped information about Hillary Clinton, polls about her victory dropped, while before she was given as winner. So we can really say that those leaks determined the victory of Trump.
The leaked information about the DNC and Hillary Clinton was absolutely accurate. The main effect was to convince people who otherwise might have voted for her, to just stay home.

What's the benefit in voting for one utterly corrupt and vile politician over another one? Better to spend the time playing ping-pong.

Well, those hacked documents were received by Wikileaks from Russian hackers.
This has been heavily disputed. The actual source was probably Seth Rich, perhaps working in concert with Kim Dotcom. And, a team of Ukrainian hackers faked the evidence implicating the Russians. See discussion starting here:

https://postflaviana.org/community/index.php?threads/julian-assange-to-be-thrown-under-the-bus.2413/post-11495

Assange did a very stupid thing, by publishing documents that helped elect the man who would later pursue his destruction.
Assange was effectively a captive in the Ecuadorian Embassy since 2012. There's no evidence he would be doing any better under a Clinton administration.

I'm not aware of a single nationally known US politician, Republican or Democrat, who has spoken up in favor of Assange and his freedom.
 

Jerry Russell

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I don't believe anymore that 9/11 was an inside job... If I were still convinced of that, I would consider the narrative that the Russians are our enemy just fake propaganda to cover internal wrong deeds or sell weapons.
I'm going to answer this briefly, because the view that Trump is a pawn of the Russian government, is an important part of the Trump dialectic.

First of all, I don't see the logic. Even if 9/11 was carried out entirely by Bin Laden and his hijacker friends, exactly as portrayed by the Official Story, how does that make "the narrative that the Russians are our enemy" any more true or false? Since when was Bin Laden a Russian?

At a geopolitical level, Russian and the US are clearly competitors. Militarily they are prepared for mutually assured destruction at a moments' notice. So of course there's some truth to the view that the Russians are "our" enemy. If by "us" you mean the USA and its allies.

I'm sure there's a Russian H-bomb targeting the airport 3 miles from my home. This is enough reason that i don't feel entirely warm fuzzy feelings towards the Russians.

But considering the narrative regarding the Russians, one needs to be aware which parts of it are just fake propaganda.

We have a thread about this topic here:

https://postflaviana.org/community/index.php?threads/regime-change-needed-in-russia-a-debate.2378/
 

Richard Stanley

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A strange bedfellows' dialectic has been formed by militant progressives aligning with the Russian early 2017 propaganda campaign and the Trumpublicans that "Ukraine did it", while the corporate left and soft progressives believe that "Russia did it". As I have discussed before, many Republican pols have twisted themselves into pretzels in taking this stand. Such as Kevin McCarthy had even been recorded during the 2016 campaign saying that Trump was a paid employee of Putin.

As I have also discussed the odd nature of the war in eastern Ukraine, the following adds some interesting context to the latest brouhaha feeding the impeachment of Trump.

Remember those additional javelin missiles that Ukrainian President Zelensky wanted? It turns out that the US requires they be kept 100's of miles from the battlefield.

"Under the conditions of the foreign military sale, the Trump administration stipulates that the Javelins must be stored in western Ukraine—hundreds of miles from the battlefield. "
“I see these more as symbolic weapons than anything else,” said Samuel Charap, a senior political scientist at Rand Corp. Experts say the conditions of the sale render them useless in the event of a sustained low-level assault—the kind of attack Ukraine is most likely to face from Russia."
-- Foreign Policy, October 3rd, 2019

So who wins with the sale of these missiles that aren't available to use? Raytheon and Lockheed Martin. Each missile costs $109,000 each.
When the discussion of military aide came up Sen. John McCain taunted Obama for giving the Ukrainians "blankets and meals," instead of lethal support. Trump picked up on that attack on Obama during his meeting with Zelensky

A reporter asked about military aid and Trump replied that “we’re working with Ukraine and we want other countries to work with Ukraine.”
"Well, we're working with Ukraine and we want other countries to work with Ukraine. When I say 'work,' I'm referring to money. They should put up more money. We put up a lot of money. I gave you anti-tank busters that — frankly, President Obama was sending you pillows and sheets, and I gave you anti-tank busters. And a lot of people didn’t want to do that. But I did it," Trump said.


The article goes on to state that there has been no tank battle in Ukraine since 2015.

While the Trumpista's want to hang their hats on such as the Hunter Biden corruption and Crowdstrike, Tres Amigo, Rick Perry, goes right into Ukraine and offers up names of his Texas friends to be named to the Burisma board.

As such, it seems to me that the entire goal is to sow division in the USA, and it is working ... in spades. After hearing Trump and his associates admit to "shooting people on Fifth Avenue" we are being told that resistance is going up against impeachment. Senator Linseed Grahamcracker is opening an investigation against the Bidens, after going on an interview in 2016 saying there was no finer man than Joe Biden.
 
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On the anniversary of the JFK assassination we have a new account of why Agent Orange Leaks has not released the final assassination files. This account involves the common Trump links to Nixon and Roger Stone, and the Mafia. And discusses the parallels to AOL's route to the White House with Nixon's, who was the first known to have expressed that AOL was good presidential material (in his image).

This scenario does create problems for the Miles Mathis and McCloskey scenarios though.

 
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On Friday the State Department released documents under a FOIA request by the private American Oversight group, ironic since such documents are not available to the Congressional oversight committees, which obstruction should be first on the articles of impeachment.

On Friday evening, the State Department released nearly 100 pages of records in response to American Oversight’s lawsuit seeking a range of documents related to the Trump administration’s dealings with Ukraine.
Among other records, the production includes emails that confirm multiple contacts in March of 2019 between Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani, at least one of which was facilitated by President Trump’s assistant Madeleine Westerhout.
American Oversight is reviewing the production to assess whether the State Department has fully complied with the court’s order. Notes on what we’ve found are below. ...


For the sake of the impeachment process, it appears that the Mueller Investigation will be resurrected briefly, assuming that court issues can be resolved in time with such as Don McGahn. McGahn is yet another relevent character with a long or family history of Mafia connections (Guiliani, Trump, Stone, Cohen). What a surprise. Here, again, among other items of interest is access to the underlying Mueller investigation data such as thier timeline.

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Democrats have picked up new [Mueller related -rs] details since then. At Stone’s trial, which concluded Nov. 15 with a conviction of the longtime Trump associate for lying to Congress and witness tampering, new evidence and testimony showed Trump and his campaign aides knew more about WikiLeaks’ plans during the 2016 presidential race then they have let on. That includes three Trump-Stone phone calls around the time that Julian Assange’s document dumps were damaging the Hillary Clinton campaign.
Democrats say the revelations spotlight a potential contradiction in Trump’s written responses last November to Mueller’s team.
“I do not recall discussing WikiLeaks with [Stone], nor do I recall being aware of Mr. Stone having discussed WikiLeaks with individuals associated with my campaign,” Trump wrote.
Democrats have been arguing in court that they deserve access to Mueller’s underlying evidence in order to determine whether Trump did actually lie. And Letter, the top House counsel, told a federal appeals court on Monday that the House needs a swift resolution because of the impeachment time crunch.
Similar arguments came up in a separate House lawsuit Democrats launched in an attempt to force McGahn to testify. In a court filing on Tuesday, Letter stressed the urgent schedule, writing that the Judiciary Committee plans to have its own round of impeachment hearings after the public Ukraine hearings conclude.
Democrats, he wrote, “would aim to obtain Mr. McGahn’s testimony at that time,” meaning “there is an urgent need for final resolution of the matter now pending before this Court.”
It appears Democrats will get the speedy decision they want. U.S. District Court Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson this week promised a ruling by Monday on the McGahn lawsuit.
But even if McGahn is ordered to testify, that ruling could be put on hold until any appeals are sorted out. And a source close to McGahn said the ex-Trump aide won’t agree to testify until that process is worked out, possibly delaying things yet again.
The lawsuit seeking Mueller’s evidence faces a long timeline, too. While Democrats won a lower court ruling in the case, a hearing is scheduled for Jan. 3 to consider whether that ruling should stand. Trump’s Justice Department, should it lose there, can also try to appeal to a full panel of judges to review the case. ...
 

Richard Stanley

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This claim is nothing new, as discussed in the article, Trump had made this claim earlier this year. What is interesting is that Perry believes that God (the Real Deep State) also sent us Obama, no doubt to "prepare the way". ... From No Drama Obama to Nothing Butt; the Great White Savior.

Energy Secretary Rick Perry said in a portion of an interview released by "Fox & Friends" this past weekend that he believes President Trump is the “chosen one.”
"God's used imperfect people all through history. King David wasn't perfect. Saul wasn't perfect. Solomon wasn't perfect,” Perry said in the clip.
“And I actually gave the president a little one-pager on those Old Testament kings about a month ago and I shared it with him,” he continued. “I said, 'Mr. President, I know there are people that say you said you were the chosen one and I said, 'You were.’ "
"I said, 'If you're a believing Christian, you understand God's plan for the people who rule and judge over us on this planet in our government,’ ” he added.
While discussing Perry’s comments during a segment on Sunday, Fox News chief national correspondent Ed Henry said the outgoing Energy secretary also “pointed out to me he believes Barack Obama was sent by God as well, for that moment and that time.”
"He thinks at this moment and this time, Donald Trump was sent by God to do great things,” he continued. ...
 

Emma Robertson

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Psychiatrists: Trump’s mental state is deteriorating dangerously due to impeachment with potentially ‘catastrophic outcomes’

A group of mental health professionals led by a trio of preeminent psychiatrists is urging the House Judiciary Committee to consider President Trump‘s “dangerous” mental state arising from his “brittle sense of self-worth” as part of its inquiry into whether to approve articles of impeachment against him.

“We are speaking out at this time because we are convinced that, as the time of possible impeachment approaches, Donald Trump has the real potential to become ever more dangerous, a threat to the safety of our nation,” said Yale Medical School Professor Dr Bandy Lee, George Washington University Professor Dr John Zinner, and former CIA profiler Dr Jerrold Post in a statement which will be sent to House Judiciary Committee members on Thursday.

The statement will be accompanied by a petition with at least 350 signatures from mental health professionals endorsing their conclusions.

All three psychiatrists have said they are willing to testify as part of the impeachment inquiry.

“[W]e implore Congress to take these danger signs seriously and to constrain his destructive impulses. We and many others are available to give important relevant recommendations as well as to educate the public so that we can maximise our collective safety,” the psychiatrists write.

While Dr Lee and her colleagues have previously offered themselves to be consulted by impeachment investigators, she told The Independent they felt it necessary to come forward once more because the US president is “is ramping up his conspiracy theories” and “showing a great deal of cruelty and vindictiveness” in his “accelerated, repetitive tweets,” which she explained are signs that he is “doubling and a tripling down on his delusions”.

Dr Lee explained that the president’s continued embrace of conspiracy theories was actually a public health issue because of his ability to draw members of the public into a “shared psychosis at the national level”.

“His detachment from reality... his pathology is actually gaining ground more quickly than the ability of rational actors to bring up the facts,” she said, adding that the House should consider these issues in the same way they are examining the legal and constitutional aspects of impeachment.

Dr Zinner, a former National Institutes of Mental Health researcher who has taught about and consulted with intelligence agencies on narcissistic personality disorders, told The Independent that members of congress need to be warned about the danger impeachment poses when the presidency is held by someone of Mr Trump’s pathology, which he described as a textbook case of Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

“Impeachment is the greatest threat to his self esteem that he’s experienced so far, and we’re very worried that his rage will be even more destructive than it’s been in the past
,” he said.

He also dismissed Republicans who defend Mr Trump by claiming that his style is that of a blunt-talking New York businessman as “simply ignorant about the whole area of psychology that pertains to him”.

Dr Zinner said the goal of the petition is to reach legislators to educate them. “Most people don’t really know this is a coherent, well-studied, well-defined condition,” he said.

“Even those that don’t dismiss [the diagnosis of Narcissistic Personality Disorder] say, ‘well, you know, these are just a lot of random bad, insane behaviours,’ but they don’t see how it coheres around the self esteem issue,” he continued.

“And others, they say, ‘well, he’s a liar and he’s a cheat and he exploits people and all of that stuff,’ but those are just random traits, whereas all of it hangs together around his developmental deficiency of not having an internal stable self-esteem.”

Dr Post, who created psychological profiles of Israel’s former prime minister Menachem Begin and Egypt’s former president Anwar Sadat for former president Jimmy Carter to use when negotiating the Camp David Accords, and who founded the CIA’s Center for the Analysis of Personality and Political Behavior, told The Independent that evidence of Trump’s lack of self-esteem and the danger that impeachment will bring by exacerbating his precarious mental state can be found in the way he pardons convicted war criminals like Navy Chief Petty Officer Eddie Gallagher and labels them heroes.

“He’s identified with these war criminals because he knows that he’s being seen as a criminal. So he’s trying to redefine them as heroes, just like he is. People challenge his intelligence, so he accuses Maxine Walters of being ‘low IQ’ and says, but I’m a stable genius,” said Dr Post, who founded George Washington University’s Political Psychology Center after his retirement from the CIA.

Dr Post warned the strong connection between Mr Trump and his followers means the possibility he would call for violence against his perceived political enemies “cannot be discounted”.

“Watching his rallies, there’s an almost palpable connection between Trump and his followers, who have taken his invitation to externalize and project their problems upon [other groups],” he said. “He’s basically saying he understands where their problems are coming from and he will rescue them, so to hurt their rescuer is very painful [for his followers] indeed.”

Any challenge to Mr Trump’s power, whether impeachment or an election loss next November, could be a significant trauma for him and his supporters, Dr Post said.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-mental-state-impeachment-psychiatrist-petition-congress-a9232386.html

Narcissistic personality disorder — one of several types of personality disorders — is a mental condition in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for excessive attention and admiration, troubled relationships, and a lack of empathy for others. But behind this mask of extreme confidence lies a fragile self-esteem that's vulnerable to the slightest criticism. A narcissistic personality disorder causes problems in many areas of life, such as relationships, work, school or financial affairs. People with narcissistic personality disorder may be generally unhappy and disappointed when they're not given the special favors or admiration they believe they deserve. They may find their relationships unfulfilling, and others may not enjoy being around them.

Signs and symptoms of narcissistic personality disorder:

Have an exaggerated sense of self-importance
Have a sense of entitlement and require constant, excessive admiration
Expect to be recognized as superior even without achievements that warrant it
Exaggerate achievements and talents
Be preoccupied with fantasies about success, power, brilliance, beauty or the perfect mate
Believe they are superior and can only associate with equally special people
Monopolize conversations and belittle or look down on people they perceive as inferior
Expect special favors and unquestioning compliance with their expectations
Take advantage of others to get what they want
Have an inability or unwillingness to recognize the needs and feelings of others
Be envious of others and believe others envy them
Behave in an arrogant or haughty manner, coming across as conceited, boastful and pretentious
Insist on having the best of everything — for instance, the best car or office
At the same time, people with narcissistic personality disorder have trouble handling anything they perceive as criticism, and they can:

Become impatient or angry when they don't receive special treatment
Have significant interpersonal problems and easily feel slighted
React with rage or contempt and try to belittle the other person to make themselves appear superior
Have difficulty regulating emotions and behavior
Experience major problems dealing with stress and adapting to change
Feel depressed and moody because they fall short of perfection
Have secret feelings of insecurity, shame, vulnerability and humiliation


(from comments section) https://news.yahoo.com/psychiatrists-trump-mental-state-deteriorating-205459916.html

I read that this lack of self esteem originated in Trump with his father relationship (who probably criticized him and expected a lot of him). So I have compassion for him and I understand his behaviour. Of course this does not change at all my wish for him to be removed, it rather reinforces it.

My perception that he was unable to care for others, when I exposed his behaviour in relation to 9/11, was totally spot on.

But his every action can be understood keeping in mind his psycological pathology.

Thinking about the woman in his administration who has become Trump's target because discovered commenting that he is an idiot. She then has been charged by Trump of treason, accusing her of trying to influence his election, which was false. But for a narcissist beeing called idiot, that is an act of treason in itself, because it is an attack to his weak spot, his self-esteem.

And that's why Trumps needs to surround himself with people loyal to him, people that help his self-esteem stay high. And that's why having loyal people is more important for him than having competent people around, which is against the country's interest. Which is why somebody in such a pathological condition cannot be a president.

Just imagine how he felt when other premiers laughted at him at NATO meeting if I don't go wrong, causing him to leave.

If he is impeached and removed from presidency, he will be a failure to his father eyes in his mind, I guess.
 
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Richard Stanley

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Dr Post warned the strong connection between Mr Trump and his followers means the possibility he would call for violence against his perceived political enemies “cannot be discounted”.

“Watching his rallies, there’s an almost palpable connection between Trump and his followers, who have taken his invitation to externalize and project their problems upon [other groups],” he said. “He’s basically saying he understands where their problems are coming from and he will rescue them, so to hurt their rescuer is very painful [for his followers] indeed.”
This is what I worry about most.
I read that this lack of self esteem originated in Trump with his father relationship (who probably criticized him and expected a lot of him). So I have compassion for him and I understand his behaviour. Of course this does not change at all my wish for him to be removed, it rather reinforces it.
Yes, it would seem that the family dynamic led to much of this. I have speculated earlier on in this thread whether or not Trump has been groomed for his role and/or whether or not he was also selected for his innate personality profile no matter the root causes. On different posts I have shown that he is capable appearing as a calm and reasonable adult, such that his 'presidential' manner of speech was tailored to appeal to his political base.

As such, I am not so sure that his apparent pathological behavior and deterioration is real or staged. But, all of this drama can certainly feed the narrative that he must take decisive action to 'save' us (himself) from the evil deep state.
 

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Wasn't Republican President Richard Nixon accused of running a "Royal White House" and even dubbed as "King Richard"?
 

Richard Stanley

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There has been a long trend towards ever more power in the Executive Branch, but I don't remember these terms being applied to Nixon.

In any case, it seems that my earlier observation about this impeachment stratagy turning into a debacle, whether or not the House votes to impeach, because of the Hunter Biden mess is playing out. The Republicans are going to the mat over this, refusing to concede any problems with the king.
 

Seeker

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Precisely! Those guards were the first thing that I thought of concerning Nixon and his "imperial" Presidency, but I thought it too trivial to mention in this thread. Incidentally, going by a historian who traced his genealogy during his Presidency, it appears that Nixon and I have some of the same colonial Quaker ancestors, which would make us distant cousins, so perhaps that makes me an "Imperial Seeker"!
 

Richard Stanley

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I didn't even know there was a Washington Monthly. Thx Jerry.

However, the following WM excerpted article takes issue with Russophilisim, seeing Trump's natural influence over traditionally right leaning military as leading us further down a very dark road. I have also discussed on other threads about the apocalyptic alliance Putin has with the Russian Orthodox Church, as Trump similarly has with white evangelicals.

Would it were that we were engaging with such as the Russians for better reasons, but here all it has taken is for a fake right wing populist, 'imperial' wannabe to lead not only the once uber-patriot Republicans astray, but half the military, the NRA, and the MAGA base.

The following from: https://washingtonmonthly.com/2019/12/07/trump-is-aligning-the-military-with-the-russian-white-supremacist-criminal-syndicate/

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So a significantly larger portion of the military–nearly half!–sees Russia as an ally than does the general public. If your first reaction is that this is part of a tribalistic Trump effect on a constituency that leans conservative overall, you would be right.
Generally, the pollsters found the positive views of Russia seemed to be “predominantly driven by Republicans who have responded to positive cues from [U.S.] President [Donald] Trump about Russia,” according to an executive summary accompanying the results.
While a majority, 71% of all Americans and 53% of military households, still views Russia as an enemy, the spike in pro-Russian sentiment has defense officials concerned.
It’s easy to sound the alarm over this for basic national security reasons. From a traditional Westphalian perspective, it is clearly dangerous for the people we entrust to secure the country’s self-defense to be much more favorable to our fiercest geopolitical foe than the public. It should be the other way around. It is beyond alarming when put in the proper context: one of the country’s two major political parties was just assisted in the previous election by its greatest foe; the president who was elected by a minority of voters with that rival’s help has continued to run interference for that rival, has been weirdly obsequious to its dictatorial leader, has refused to accept his own intelligence services’ findings about the criminal theft of opposition documents in the election, and is to this day extorting and undermining a nation in a hot war with that same rival power in an effort to fabricate dirt on a political rival for the next election and, amazingly, to frame the victim of the extortion for the crimes of its rival aggressor.
The president has embroiled his personal lawyer, his Attorney General, his Vice President and his Secretary of State in the conspiracy as well. And all of this is occurring even as the president rules under a cloud of suspicion about his own personal and business financial ties to the same rival power.
And now, due to purely partisan interests, the nation’s military is being warped into supporting the hostile foreign power–against our own values, geopolitical interests, and intelligence services It’s like the plot from a bad spy novel, except that it’s happening right out in the open. This is the situation as it stands between Trump, Russia, the Republican Party and Ukraine. And no one can do anything about it because the Republican Party sees itself as locked into a demographic death spiral as it sheds support from every demographic except the declining share older, white, exurban evangelicals, and is therefore willing to defend even the most abominable behavior in exchange for nominating a slew of extremist radical judges who they hope will derail any progressive priorities for the next several decades.
But even this understates the cause for alarm. Because Russia isn’t just a geopolitical foe: it is also the global leader of white supremacy and fossil fuel kleptocracy. It is an international criminal syndicate operating as a government, and it is actively recruiting allies and henchmen all around the world. As I said last year, it’s not so much that the United States lost or is losing the Cold War (we didn’t lose it), as much as that racist plutocrats won it:
In order to pacify the populace during this process, Putin and allies used the standard timeless conservative tactics: they allied themselves with rural and socially conservative religious elements, ramped up hostile rhetoric toward supposedly corrupt outsiders, leveraged racist and sexist sentiments against domestic minorities and women’s rights groups, and portrayed themselves as the only ones who could make Russia great again.
It was unsurprising, then, that a Russian government aligned with racist, sexist and plutocratic principles would find an easy friend in Donald Trump and the American Republican Party. They are natural allies. It is less that America became Russia’s client state, than that the conservative movements in both America and Russia made a semi-secret criminal global compact that neither could acknowledge publicly. Since Trump’s election, their wealthy patriarchal white supremacist movement has sought and encouraged allies in Britain, Europe, Brazil and elsewhere, seeking to align the world against socially inclusive economic progressivism in favor of plutocratic ethnonationalism.
The American white supremacist movement has long looked to Russia and Putin as friends and allies. They see Western Europe as engaged in destruction of the white race through liberal immigration policies, of male dominance through embrace of feminism, of rural fossil fuel power through embrace of policies designed to fight climate change, and of conservative Christianity through cultural secularization. They see America as destined to follow along on the same path, and they see Russia (as well as a few former Eastern Bloc countries like Poland and Hungary) as the only major world power to be moving in the other direction, asserting the privileges of wealth, patriarchy, orthodox fundamentalism, and fossil fuel extraction industries. There is nothing they would like better than for an America in a conservative counterrevolution to abandon NATO and align wholeheartedly with Putin. Trump’s hostility to Merkel and Macron is seen as a feature, not a bug: his subservience to Putin an advantage.
In this sense, Trump is not just pushing the military toward favoring a rival nation-state that is actively sabotaging our own for his own personal and political benefit. He is attempting to align the military with a global white supremacist, patriarchal fossil fuel-backed mafia syndicate. It’s almost certain that he is also hoping that in a Constitutional crisis pitting Western secular liberal values against said syndicate, that the military will help overthrow democracy itself on the syndicate’s behalf. ...
 

Richard Stanley

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Commentators on the Left and the Paleo-Right keep wondering if the the latest revelation will finally break the camel's back of the Trumpublican support for their wannabe dick-tator. The latest revelation being Rudy Guiliani's admission that he, as Trump's personal lawyer, a private citizen, was responsible for the removal of the US ambassador to Ukraine, Marie Yovanovitch. In any more 'normal' political environment Guiliani himself would have been redirected to a far different line of pursuit(s) from his prior faux pas, and not just from his word salads. But this train of lunacy continues unabated as we now head to fully partisan House vote to proceed with a Senate faux trial of Trump. The Majority Leader of the Senate, McConnell has even stated that he is coordinating with Trump's defense .... and will not allow vital witnesses, like Bolton, to be heard by either the senators or the public.

Speculation some years ago had assumed that a succession to Mike Pence would be rather easy to accomplish and even desired by some on the 'Right', But Pence has his tits in this wringer as well, and the Trump base seems prepared to punish any wayward Trumpublicans.

Trump's willingness to cross the political intersectionalities formed by the distortions of the corporate control of the (once upon a time) RNC and the DNC makes for massive problems in analyzing hidden agendas, beyond his crass personal transactional nature that is. And thus he has made for some rather strange bedfellows, such as alignments regarding Russia and Ukraine.

Americans and others in the West are increasingly silo-ed in their political information sources, confirmation biases are being confirmed, and we must ask if all of this confusion is organic or indeed part of a contrived War on Sensemaking? The purpose of which is to indeed cause a loss of confidence in Liberal Democracy (however defined) in favor of a return to an authoritarian regime, the stepping stone being the various current manifestations of fascism. Of which Trump has explicitly stated his admiration for -- between his verbal and actual trashing of the Constitution.

As the big problem has been with America's two-party system, that of accommodating a wide range of 'intersectional' political and real world issues, Trump's modus operandi of Chaos has allowed him to garner traditional Right support for his reversals of environmental policies, ironic because his pal Dick Nixon was responsible for establishing the EPA. In the wider environmental milieu, however, issues of such as pollution have been allowed to be conflated with the complex issue of climate change, championed by Al Gore during his ascendance to Vice President under Clinton (good golf and sex buddy of Trump's). Gore's influence defunded scientists that contradicted the apriori political agenda of the UN's IPCC crystallized around the issue of CO2 emissions.

Indeed, the so-called Climate (CO2) Skeptics have pounced upon this connection of the globalist and (Occidental) oil man, and environmental entrepreneur, Al Gore, while Trump has appeared to side with the Skeptic camp, for now at least, since this is how his bread is currently buttered. As Trump is wont to say, "Time will tell", the IPCC scientists were forced to admit that their scare projections were overstated (for the time being - until the current 'short term' reversals are overcome by the evil CO2 demons), while on the other hand, the solar scientists, astrophysicists, are suggesting that the Sun and related cosmic inputs are ever driving the climate on Earth. And, ... that we are on the cusp of diving into a decades long Mini-Ice Age, like witnessed for centuries prior to ~150 years ago.

How this will all ultimately play out I don't know, but this isn't good. We should have long been united in figuring out how to make modern high civilizations more robust to inevitable climate changes that scientists have long understood to have built and then destroyed prior civilizations, sans significant changes in CO2 levels. (See Brian Fagan's The Long Summer.)

Political developments in Washington D.C. seem to suggest that the Trumpublicans in the 3 branches will collude to ensure that Trump will not be removed, and thus ensure his re-election (including employing massive voter suppression). What will happen if Trump's position on CO2 proves correct? Will the IPCC scientists and their sponsors double down and telling us that Global Warming is the cause of the global freeze? This while, as during the prior Mini Ice Age, glaciers galloped forward to threaten and destroy towns and villages, before 'something' caused them to recede, mostly long before the last 50 years of dramatic rise in CO2 levels.

If this scenario is true, 'fortunately', the current (and supposedly last) papacy of the pedophile Church has placed itself in the Alarmist camp and so it seems poised to be replaced in the desired 'new order'. A new order that would likely only emerge in the decades after the rise out of the alleged immanent mini-ice age.

The use of such political provocateurs is nothing new, it was recorded in the Old Testament with such as the overthrow of the Babylonian king Nabonidus, by the Jew's messiah du jour Cyrus the Great. Now we have all these shenanigans of Rudy Giuliani, his surname that of a subsequent messiah du jour, Gaius Julius Caesar. All Rudy needs is a garland of laurel upon his almost bald pate.
 

Richard Stanley

Administrator
The following is an interesting discussion between Cenk Uygur and Jimmy Dore. It discusses several issues, but it features their takes on Russiagate. Uygur has evolved to approximately where I am on Russiagate, believing that there must be something to the Trump financial involvement with Russia (and many other countries).

My difference is that I believe that such as Putin knows full well what the deeper real game is. Which these two do discuss in the motivations and actions of such as Pelosi and the DNC. These are collaborators in the corporate hoax, of which Trump is fully a part of. The drama is all to divide and fool us, the trillions of dollars at stake ... and the transition to a new order.

 

Richard Stanley

Administrator
Except for the skittish Democrats, speculation is now rampant that Agent Orange Leaks has now wagged the Iranian dog, so to speak. We know for certain that AOL understands this practice as in 2011 he boldly claimed that President Obama would do exactly the same thing at the time. However, the better analogy to Trump's seemingly precipitous action would be President Clinton's military attack just before his impeachment vote.

Despite the militant verbal response so far from Iran, will they take the bait and provide Trump what he really needs to make this more than a temporary distraction? A hot war. Well, we're now deploying more troops, at least. In any case, Faux News' host Stuart Varney has asked how can we remove a president who just killed such a leading terrorist. Well, Obama supposedly killing Osama appeared to cover for a few sins as well.

On first glance, why would Trump take such an action since he has a business tie to the Iranian Revolutionary Guard (the building in Azerbaijan), which I have covered on this thread prior. But on second glance, maybe this is part of what actually cements the two parties together as 'frenemies'. After all, the pretext for the 'rocket attack' at the Baghdad airport was provided by the prior attack of the American embassy in that city, by those allied with Iran. And now, at a time when the Iraqis are considering to ask us to leave. After all we (and Pete Buttigieg) have ... done for them all these years. Give such people countless billions of freshly minted dollars, no questions asked, and this is what you get.

What is it that we were really paying for?

Who commits a targeted assassination with a rocket? It was a missile from a killer drone, that's what we're paying for.

As with Osama and Saddam, and ... where is the beef?
 
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A couple of thoughts here. Osama was very well known and thoroughly demonized when he was taken out. On the other hand, Soleimani is virtually unknown in the US, so the propaganda value is far lower. He's not scary looking. Besides, number two guys just don't get us worked up. Remember the days when we took out the #2 guy in Al Queda every couple of months?

Iran has to be careful about its response. The reprisal will need to be dramatic enough to satisfy the Iranian public, but without provoking a land war. Russian and Chinese interests must be protected, which I figure rules out cyber warfare. I could see the destruction of some high profile American asset in region, but bombing an Embassy would upset the International community. So I think we are looking at a counter assassination on a major US official. It would be someone notorious to the Iranians but expendable to the US. If my last name were Bush, I'd watch it.

Finally, what the f--- is Trump up to? Normally, he'd have laid some groundwork about how 'evil' Soleimani is and whined about Obama not having already murdered him. It was not his idea. It is not something the military would propose. That means it comes from the political side. Wag the Dog, indeed -- but you'd think it would be better planned.

Oh, by the way, there is speculation that Saddam was taken out by air-launched missile. This comes from the mother of the pilot. Bush was set to take credit for it (Mission Accomplished) then realized that assassination of foreign leaders was illegal. Good times.
 
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