Read carefully what I said.
Derp. The children are the Brownshirts. I was confused. :rolleyes:

Young Whites feel their Great-Grandparents were tricked into fighting in WW2 to install the Marxist New World Order.

I suspect you don't agree if you consider that "shitting on their graves".

I beg those young people to be more forgiving of their elders because people of that generation did not have benefit of the internet to learn about FDR's advisors, who funded Bolshevism, and the Pearl Harbor false flag. They were easy to trick. Young people cannot understand how easy.

It's difficult for people who grew up with Internet to understand how controlled information was before the Web existed.
 

Jerry Russell

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If these young people are so receptive to information that's available on the Internet, why don't they see through Trump? There's plenty of information available about him.
 
why don't they see through Trump?
I don't understand what you mean by them "seeing though" Trump.

Trump is the most fashy Presidential candidate. Young people want Fascism, real genuine National Socialism.

It's a joke/not really a joke, among the young that their God Emperor is spiritually willed to Victory by them.

This will sound like a joke to you, but it's not...

(an Autiste is an autistic nerd who works in I.T.)


Republicans cannot understand why their efforts to destroy Trump are not working. They are stuck in the 20th century. They still think what is on television is what matters. They still think grey heads at televised rallies writing checks to pay for TV advertisements is what matters.
 

Richard Stanley

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Young Whites feel their Great-Grandparents were tricked into fighting in WW2 to install the Marxist New World Order.

I suspect you don't agree if you consider that "shitting on their graves".
My reference to "shitting on their graves" was focused mostly on those of our generation, the greying children of WWII's Greatest Generation of Dupes. So in that respect I can agree with the 'Young Whites' as you call them.

The only thing remaining in what you said then is the semantic characterization of 'Marxist'. As I discussed in Black Collared Magic, the Libertarian David Nolan had a great two dimensional analysis of socio-politics that helps expose and demonstrate the cynical fallacy of the Marxist construct. Jerry's discovery of Wolfgang Waldner's analysis that Marx was clearly a troll of the Prussian aristocracy, at least, demonstrates the underlying premise of Jerry's and mine that the primary dialectic to be observed is the elite oligarchs maintenance, by any means possible, of disproportionate profits and control over the sheep. In this case, the need served was to co-opt the ability of workers to gain parity (via either labor unions and/or the Socialists) with the new capitalists rising from the old incestuous order of nobility, gentry and Judaic buffer classes.



The oligarch tyrants love that most sheep have not been able to distinguish the difference between Communists and Socialists. Remarkably, even most Socialists have embraced the term Marxist, after its namesake, an obscurantist of the highest order. But back in the day, if such didn't intellectually understand the difference, then at some other level they certainly did. This, as Socialists and Communists were often violent enemies, and their failure to come to terms on a single compromise candidate led to Hitler's election (celebrated openly by the German Catholic Church BTW - because its primary interests are that of the elites that control it).

I beg those young people to be more forgiving of their elders because people of that generation did not have benefit of the internet to learn about FDR's advisors, who funded Bolshevism, and the Pearl Harbor false flag. They were easy to trick. Young people cannot understand how easy.

It's difficult for people who grew up with Internet to understand how controlled information was before the Web existed.
Ha, today's 'young' people are the most programmed yet, from the massive changes introduced into their public educations (starting with the Reagan Administration). In general, everyone considers that their worldview must be the correct one, until they get their noses rubbed into the yellow snow reality enough times.

More Prussian y&h%y@werb!:

With the increasing contact the Christians had with the Muslims through the pillaging (stealing the resources of your neighbour) of the Muslim dominated world, Aristotle’s writings were rediscovered and helped to usher in ‘the great thaw’ of the celebrated twelfth century revival of learning known as the Renaissance.

In the 15th century, the Renaissance spread with great speed from its birthplace in Florence, first to the rest of Italy, and soon to the rest of Europe. The invention of the printing press allowed the rapid transmission of these new ideas.

However reasoned knowledge makes a man unfit to be a slave; subjects of study can only be mastered and all falsehood removed if you understand the methods needed to reason, this is essential to be a free soul; when the ability to reason becomes common place it endangers the authority of the accumulated wealth elite, who exist as parasites upon the masses through usury, privilege and imposition enforced through the threat of arms and the use of force.

The Prussian elite established a method to remove the trivium once more from Europe and ultimately the modern world, ironically even from the Muslims, by introducing tax-funded and generally compulsory primary education, comprising an eight-year course, called Volksschule (folk (common people) school). This taught basic reading, writing and arithmetic through a strict basis of ethics, duty, discipline and obedience to the State. The Prussian school of education is now the dominant method of education globally.

The elite saw the advantage they could gain from the ability to reason and so established exclusive private schools based upon full comprehension of the liberal arts, this is commonly known as a ‘classical education’.

The elite imposed this method of education eventually upon every State corporation, for example Horace Mann (1796–1859) worked to create a state-wide system of professional teachers, based on the Prussian model within the USA in 1837.

US President Woodrow Wilson in office March 4, 1913 – March 4, 1921, stated: “We want one class of persons to have a liberal education, and we want another class of persons, a very much larger class, of necessity, in every society, to forego the privileges of a liberal education and fit themselves to perform specific difficult manual tasks.”

The Prussian system is useful to the elite in creating not only a harmless electorate and a servile labour force but also a virtual herd of mindless consumers.

http://servantofthelight.com/content/view/246/301/

They were easy to trick. Young people cannot understand how easy.
If this is so, they only need to look at what happened with 9/11. How did most of their generation get taken in then? Again, I suspect that you are referring to a subset of that generation, and that they only think that they have awakened, .. just to a different induced delusion.
 

Richard Stanley

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Trump is the most fashy Presidential candidate. Young people want Fascism, real genuine National Socialism.

Republicans cannot understand why their efforts to destroy Trump are not working. They are stuck in the 20th century. They still think what is on television is what matters. They still think grey heads at televised rallies writing checks to pay for TV advertisements is what matters.
Interesting video, and this is all just re-warmed Romaniticism, which was un-scientific, baseless pablum centered around 'FEELINGS' of white superiority marketed as the 'Scientific' very first product of the 'modern' university system sponsored by George (Hanover) II in Gottingen in 1734. So it had the imprimatur of a German / English king and of the scam academic system, all well exposed by Martin Bernal in Black Athena V1. Classic Platonic lies appealing to the vanity of the ignorant.

Today's appeal of Trump is to similarly ignorant people, appealing to their correct perception of how they have indeed been screwed over by the powerful interests. This is what the Republican establishment hasn't seemed to have understood. The base of Trumps are not traditional Rebublicans, that is until recently when many have been capitulating to Trump's now inevitability.

But again, the data that I have seen, and the footage, are saying that the core of Trump's base are older, uneducated, Boomer white people. Trump's message is appealing to them because these are the people who used to work in the ~60K factories that were shut down and/or moved overseas. Or they were the mostly uneducated white owners of small businesses that catered to these businesses or workers.

But I say that the Republican establishment has indeed understood what is going on, and this is why they have allowed so many buffoons to run as opposition to divide the vote and help allow Trump to work his magic.
 

Jerry Russell

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If this is fascism, it's history repeating itself as farce.
That's my point. This is not a farce. Every day more young people want Fascism, real genuine National Socialism. Older voters want a populist strong man.

That being the case, there is no "seeing through" Trump. He is better than the Republicans who put Banksters and Israel first. He is better than a known criminal and warmonger like Clinton.
 
But I say that the Republican establishment has indeed understood what is going on, and this is why they have allowed so many buffoons to run as opposition to divide the vote and help allow Trump to work his magic.
Whoa. This is a conspiracy theory I had not considered. It's a darn good one.

The GOP gnashing of teeth over Trump, and siding with the 'Left' in blaming him for the Soros-funded rally violence seem genuine. But now that you mention it, Jeb did seem to be just going through the motions. Little Rubio and Creepy Cruz may get to keep some millions of their funding.

The only argument against it I can think of is that the Republican establishment would need to be that smart, which I find implausible. Perhaps I have too little faith in them.
 

Jerry Russell

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This is not a farce.
Umm... somebody calling themselves "The Right Stuff" posts a satire of "Chateau Heartiste" calling themselves "autiste" (that is, autistic), overlaying their comments with loud Vivaldi music so you can hardly hear a word they're saying, and this is not a farce?

Young people want genuine Fascism, Trump wants to give it to them, and we're supposed to debate whether this is better or worse than criminals and warmongers? Are we also supposed to seriously wonder whether Trump is secretly anti-Semitic in spite of his repeated and avowed support for Israel?

I eschew such debates. As of now, I'm planning to vote for local favorite Jesse Wells, aka 'Viking'.

https://www.facebook.com/vikingpresident

Or maybe I'll vote for Michael Rivero of whatreallyhappened.com, who is running on a platform of "He could hardly do any worse."
 

Richard Stanley

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Whoa. This is a conspiracy theory I had not considered. It's a darn good one.

The GOP gnashing of teeth over Trump, and siding with the 'Left' in blaming him for the Soros-funded rally violence seem genuine. But now that you mention it, Jeb did seem to be just going through the motions. Little Rubio and Creepy Cruz may get to keep some millions of their funding.

The only argument against it I can think of is that the Republican establishment would need to be that smart, which I find implausible. Perhaps I have too little faith in them.
Don't forget that Trump built up his cam-pain with free media, including from the likes of left leaning MSNBC. All the while they are gnashing their teeth over the coverage he is getting, so what's the solution, give him more FREE media coverage. Did I say FREE? How's that for fascism?

For the implementation of real Machiavellianism, or Realpolitik, it requires that the target audience, or at least the bulk of them, discern what the various 'actors' roles are. Most believe that the 'actors', in this case the national party mechanisms, are just responding in the moment to a phenomenon they don't comprehend any better than the man on the street. We never got to this point because the national party mechanisms weren't always puppets in the first place. It's all Kabuki Theater.

BTW, did you know that Hillary has once more shot herself in the foot by (legally) taking pay from her campaign? This despite that Bill and Hill are worth over $100 million.
 

Richard Stanley

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I forgot to add here, but I think it is earlier in the thread, that traditionally the Republicans have maintained strict discipline on who runs and gets nominated. That is, until, this time and the previous. Prior to that we got to watch the real destruction of the party as a serious appearing force with the selection of the socialist half governor from Alaska, who didn't read just about every paper she couldn't name. All while protecting us in the lower 48 from the Russians across the way from her.

Alaska, BTW, is socialist because it diverts funds from the oil companies to its citizens, and the half governor never said a word about stopping such mugging of the worthy. Furthermore, its interesting that her husband was part of a secessionist group, but this raised no red flags.

No red flags, like selecting Romney, the vulture capitalist, to run the next year, while he is of one of the very top families in the Mormon Church, and whose ancestors swore an Oath of Vengeance upon the United States of America for forcing them to drop polygamy. This is why the Romneys fled to Mexico, and some of them are still there as I understand it. The related Romney and Huntsman ancestors participated in the Mountain Meadows Massacre and civil war against the United States, forcing President Pearce to declare the Communist (at the time) Mormons to be the first terrorist organization in US history.
 

Richard Stanley

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That's my point. This is not a farce. Every day more young people want Fascism, real genuine National Socialism. Older voters want a populist strong man.

That being the case, there is no "seeing through" Trump. He is better than the Republicans who put Banksters and Israel first. He is better than a known criminal and warmonger like Clinton.
Perhaps you are taking him at face value? I have a pet theory that this is the real etymological meaning of 'fascism'. A mask or a 'fasc'ade. After all, he has flipped on his previously liberal positions to play this role. Despite him having been openly called out on it, his mastery of the mass psychology of his target audience overrides this clear deception.

Hitler did the same thing rising to power in the National Socialist NSDAP, before Hitler flipped the switch overnight to making it his fascist vehicle. As such, National Socialism does not define state Fascism, but rather the association of state control over privately held economic concerns (particularly heavy industry), to the profit of the private owners - not to their detriment.

Prior to Hitler's beguiling of the NSDAP membership they were a workers party dedicated to improving the lot of the 'national' German workers in relation to the industrialists. Once Hitler felt comfortably ensconced into power over the NSDAP he immediately shifted the focus in favor of the industrialists who supported his subsequent rise to political power. He brutally eliminated those that would object. This is all first hand documented by Otto Strasser in his book Hitler and Me.

Thus, in correct political terms, there is not much difference between a such a populist strong man and a Fascist, other than what stage of their ascension you are talking about.
 
Perhaps you are taking him at face value?
I did last year. I thought he was what it says on the tin, an old Billionaire who decided to blow his wealth in his final years taking a whack at putting his name in the history books, and perhaps rattle the establishment for fun to see if he could do a bit of good.

Then he started winning. I was shocked. I began to suspect he made a deal to take a dive for Hillary in the final round for the enrichment of his children. I never considered your theory that the Republicans were actually behind him because all their media organs like FoxNews, National Review, and the evangelical churches attack him relentlessly.

This Cuckservative meme really tore into their side last year...

 

Richard Stanley

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Thanks for the video Charley. I had not known this term till you mentioned it.

However, she got the definition of 'cuckold' wrong. The cuckold is not approving or knowing of his wife having sex with another, stranger or otherwise. In this respect this metaphor is interesting to me in the sense of the 'cuck...' so to speak not knowing what his real interests are. This is the usual manner in which populist demagogues have always operated. One comes to believe that doing the bidding of the 'patrone' (or modern equivalent) is more important than the long term and wider interests of himself or his community.

Yes, the Israel issue is another interesting divide between the Trump base and the Republican establishment, at least. And it seems to be a current divide between Trump and his base as well. But, I'm guessing that his base's support for Israel is relatively evenly split on the issue.

I'm guessing that President Trump will sell out the non-cucks in a heartbeat. He has already framed himself as the most militant American ever, so despite his telling the war weary non-cucks that he knew that we should not have entered that mess, he has made sure that he can support massive action - as he sees fit.
 
Mimi's definition is actually correct. When young people employ the slander 'cuck' they are referring to a category of videos on pornography websites wherein a man has another, usually larger more masculine man pleasure his wife while he watches.

The slander 'Cuckservative' has come to mean: a supposed Conservative who works for Israel or Jewish Banksters, not his voters. He is a 'cuck' in the sense of a 'traitor' or 'whore'.

See: http://www.google.com/?q=cuckservative+site:facebook.com

Trump has dog-whisted this and other anti-Jewish and anti-war memes to young people. The mainstream controlled television media cannot detect it because they don't know the memes.

Whomever is running his social media is excellent.

I could not estimate the anti-AIPAC sentiment among Trump supporters in general. I know that he got a huge surge in support when he said Iraq was a mistake, the 28 pages of the 9/11 report should be released, and that Muslim immigration to the West (a Cultural Marxist goal) should be paused.
 

Jerry Russell

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I assumed you knew U.S. Presidential elections are a farce, and this thread was about the game of it.

I thought it was interesting that young people want fascism.
Charlie, I'm sorry if I'm seeming too argumentative. It seems like we're on the same page.
 

Richard Stanley

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Mimi's definition is actually correct. When young people employ the slander 'cuck' they are referring to a category of videos on pornography websites wherein a man has another, usually larger more masculine man pleasure his wife while he watches.
Perhaps so, but then this is an evolved meaning, as changed from the dictionary definition of 'cuckold'. It was originally a term of derision as the husband was not too happy about it, but I suppose, that it may have come to encompass the voluntary and voyeuristic context. And the original use did indeed derive from that of the cuckoo bird's practice.
 
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