Richard Stanley
Well-Known Member
The following excerpt is from a (partisan) article about the potential bombshell (whether true or not) proclamation that the Russians hacked the election for Drumpf. Discussed is the ironic reaction of Mitch McConnell, who not so incidentally, had overtly stated years ago that his first priority was to destroy the Obama Presidency over the common interests of the nation.
The article also almost broaches the topic of just how easy it is to tamper with certain areas election results via Internet connected voting machines, ... and then the election apparatus system refuses to allow recount audits. This made moot because some machines still don't provide an audit capability. There was nothing wrong with the old paper ballot system.
The title of the article mentions WWIII, and the conclusion is that the Dems should fight the junta as if it is WWIII. Imagine what the Brown Shirts will do if the election of their Golden AntiChrist is overturned.
The article also almost broaches the topic of just how easy it is to tamper with certain areas election results via Internet connected voting machines, ... and then the election apparatus system refuses to allow recount audits. This made moot because some machines still don't provide an audit capability. There was nothing wrong with the old paper ballot system.
The title of the article mentions WWIII, and the conclusion is that the Dems should fight the junta as if it is WWIII. Imagine what the Brown Shirts will do if the election of their Golden AntiChrist is overturned.
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This obviously cries out for hearings and an investigation, or a few of them. If we lived in a different universe, we’d ideally have a bipartisan investigation by Congress that was honest and serious and was able to be finished or at least to reach decent conclusions before the Electoral College votes on December 19.
But that will not happen. Republicans will make the Democrats do all the lifting here and then will cry that they’re being partisan and it’s just sour grapes. (Republican Senator John Cornyn tweeted, All this 'news' of Russian hacking: it has been going on for years. Serious, but hardly news.") But this is a genuine crisis. The guy who got 2.8 million fewer votes to begin with, and won because he took three states by less than 1 percent may have made it over the finish line, limping as he was, with a push from Vladimir Putin.
I know I often say “imagine if Hillary had done this,” but in this case, it’s not a mere hypothetical. Imagine the situation were reversed, and this lurid right-wing dystopic fantasy were playing out before our eyes—remembering, I should note, that Trump earlier in the campaign encouraged Russia to do more hacking of Clinton! What would the Republicans be doing? A few things, I think:
•They’d certainly be calling the election illegitimate and would declare Clinton an illegitimate president.
•They’d call on the electors to seat Trump, citing—and properly, by the way—the Founders’ view that electors existed for precisely this purpose.
•Noting that Clinton had (in this hypothetical) earlier egged Russia on, they would be accusing Clinton of being an agent of a foreign government; that is, of treason.
•They’d be so legally brilliant and diabolical that it’s far beyond my capacity even to imagine.
And what would rank-and-file conservatives be doing? Hard-shell Trumpists? Richard Spencer? The good folks at Stormfront?
What should the Democrats do? I’m not exactly sure. Demand the release of the information. Demand a real investigation, one that can be completed by Dec. 19, when the electors meet. Pin McConnell’s ears to the wall in every way they can think of, discredit him as much as possible. Liberals groups need to agitate from the outside. The media needs to get the message that conservatives aren’t the only people who get pissed off.
In a word: Fight. Like hell. Obama too. He’s been doing his job—ensuring the peaceful transition of power. But that is just a custom. He didn’t swear an oath to it. He did however swear an oath to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution. That comes first.
Liberals often accuse Democrats of bringing a knife to a gun fight. For this one, it’s time to haul out the bazooka.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...emocrats-and-america-vs-trump-and-russia.html
This obviously cries out for hearings and an investigation, or a few of them. If we lived in a different universe, we’d ideally have a bipartisan investigation by Congress that was honest and serious and was able to be finished or at least to reach decent conclusions before the Electoral College votes on December 19.
But that will not happen. Republicans will make the Democrats do all the lifting here and then will cry that they’re being partisan and it’s just sour grapes. (Republican Senator John Cornyn tweeted, All this 'news' of Russian hacking: it has been going on for years. Serious, but hardly news.") But this is a genuine crisis. The guy who got 2.8 million fewer votes to begin with, and won because he took three states by less than 1 percent may have made it over the finish line, limping as he was, with a push from Vladimir Putin.
I know I often say “imagine if Hillary had done this,” but in this case, it’s not a mere hypothetical. Imagine the situation were reversed, and this lurid right-wing dystopic fantasy were playing out before our eyes—remembering, I should note, that Trump earlier in the campaign encouraged Russia to do more hacking of Clinton! What would the Republicans be doing? A few things, I think:
•They’d certainly be calling the election illegitimate and would declare Clinton an illegitimate president.
•They’d call on the electors to seat Trump, citing—and properly, by the way—the Founders’ view that electors existed for precisely this purpose.
•Noting that Clinton had (in this hypothetical) earlier egged Russia on, they would be accusing Clinton of being an agent of a foreign government; that is, of treason.
•They’d be so legally brilliant and diabolical that it’s far beyond my capacity even to imagine.
And what would rank-and-file conservatives be doing? Hard-shell Trumpists? Richard Spencer? The good folks at Stormfront?
What should the Democrats do? I’m not exactly sure. Demand the release of the information. Demand a real investigation, one that can be completed by Dec. 19, when the electors meet. Pin McConnell’s ears to the wall in every way they can think of, discredit him as much as possible. Liberals groups need to agitate from the outside. The media needs to get the message that conservatives aren’t the only people who get pissed off.
In a word: Fight. Like hell. Obama too. He’s been doing his job—ensuring the peaceful transition of power. But that is just a custom. He didn’t swear an oath to it. He did however swear an oath to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution. That comes first.
Liberals often accuse Democrats of bringing a knife to a gun fight. For this one, it’s time to haul out the bazooka.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...emocrats-and-america-vs-trump-and-russia.html