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Sgt Pepper

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Jesuits to join forces as Order consolidates provinces
Malta will no longer form an independent Jesuit province, but a new province will be formed together with Italy and Albania in the middle of next year.
This is part of a global trend in the Order as the number of Jesuits declines and the need is felt to strengthen the smaller provinces, to share resources and work more closely together, Maltese provincial Fr Patrick Magro SJ told The Sunday Times of Malta in an interview.

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After having been educated at the De Lasalle college at Santiago de Cuba, later by jesuits at the Colegio de Dolores in the same city and the Colegio de Belen, Fidel Castro graduated from the University of Havana as a lawyer and went on to become the charismatic architect of a revolution that overthrew the dictatorial regime of Fulgencio Batista and established a socialist state.
 

Richard Stanley

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Malta will no longer form an independent Jesuit province, but a new province will be formed together with Italy and Albania in the middle of next year.
For those who like to follow such as Templar history, there are some (like me) who claim that the Jesuits, and/or the Freemasons (like me), are the various intellectual descendants of the Templars. When the Templars were fake disbanded, they were mostly merely shuffled off to the 'competing' Knights Hospitaller, who later became today's Knights of Malta, the most Catholic order SMOM. The Jesuit's main headquarters - in Rome, was a former Knights of Malta facility I believe.

Such religio-chivalric orders use the cover claim that they provide(d) some sort of humanitarian service as their main raison d'etre, while in reality pushing some agenda that such as the elite sponsors of the Church don't want the Church to be soiled with. This is the real meaning of the Jesuit's motto, paraphrased that: 'if need be for the sake of cause, white becomes black and vice versa'. Or that "the end justifies the means".

Thus one can find seemingly curious phenomenon like the Castro brothers, and Uncle Stalin, being associated with the Jesuits. As such, the Church, and the Jesuits can profitably play both sides of the political fence, with such as promoting the lefty Liberation Theology of Cardinal Bellarmine and at the same time supporting extreme reactionary fascists like Franco, Mussolini, the Perons,, and need I say Uncle Adolf. They are playing on the black and white chessboard of life, while most others can only think of one color for themselves, and the opposite is the equivalent of a red flag to a bull.

I swear that on the day that the US invaded Afghanistan, that I saw fake news coverage of humans scurrying around in SMOM jackets, supposedly in the capital city of Kabul (I believe). The fake news commentator stated that these were members of the Knights of Malta, there doing their typical humanitarian work, and that they were all former American Vietnam veterans. So fake.
 

Richard E

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Catholics are almost 50% over-represented in Congress, where Catholics Ryan and Pelosi are the leaders. The Senate is proportionally Catholic with a Baptist (McConnell) and a Jew (Schumer) in charge. Until the death of Scalia there were 5 Catholic Supremes and two Jews. The WH, especially with czar Trump is more telling in terms of Catholics, particularly with elite Jesuit affiliations. The MSM talking heads are mostly Catholic, especially the most radical. Breitbart's Bannon was Jesuit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_affiliation_in_the_United_States_Senate
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/05/congress-religious-affiliation_n_6417074.html


Meaning what?
Corrupted Jews founded the Catholic Church and Jesuits - promoted Paul - and then say the true words of God (which is what Jesus was teaching in the Hebrew Matthew) are only for the Jews and everyone else is supposed to believe in stars and zodiacs and things God said NOT to worship. They say the Ten Decrees are only for Jews as they made up the "Seven Laws of Noah" for the goyem - so they lie against God and Moses - as they also developed fractal banking and Communism... giving out the gifts to themselves - as God looks on and says "I told you your end from the beginning."
 

Richard E

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To be frankly honest - given the Hebrew Matthew and principle to dare investigate Shem-Tob's and previous alterations to him - the message is quite simple and profoundly deep in my opinion. In review of the history of the Christian Canon from earliest history - why should any book in the "New Testament" be considered valuable beyond Matthew? I just don't see Revelation being accepted by the original followers of Jesus.
 

Richard Stanley

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Corrupted Jews founded the Catholic Church and Jesuits
So then you refute the traditionalist Catholics who claim the Jesuits have corrupted their Church, because it was always corrupt?

The late Nicholas De Vere claimed that his Norman clan were the real players in Biblical times .. and before. I believe that they were also the Sabine Romans, hence the Talmud's allusion to them as (red-headed) Edomites (Esau who will regain his Abrahamic inheritance from Jacob). And, hence the connection Abraham's Harran, the city of the Sabian star watchers.

You're saying the Catholics and/or Jesuits (or the Jews?) claim the 10 Commandments are only for the Jews? I know that the Church is generally supercessionist (the Second Covenant supercedes the First), but I have not heard this claim before.

'Fractional reserve banking', not "fractal banking", but I suppose there is some resemblance.

so they lie against God and Moses
Do you think Moses was as unhappy with 'uncle' Joseph as he was with his Pharaoh? Because 'uncle' Joseph had enslaved all the free Egyptians in partnership with Joseph's pharaoh perhaps? Then Pharaoh was so happy with Joseph that he gave Joseph the daughter of an Egyptian (high) priest to beget Ephraim with, and then Jacob gave the Abrahamic blessing to Ephraim, and not the problematic Judah.

and everyone else is supposed to believe in stars and zodiacs and things God said NOT to worship.
You don't believe in stars? Astronomers believe in stars, Jewish ones and goyim ones. Even Gentile ones.

So, let's agree to believe in real things ... and not to worship them. Let's don't believe in unreal things ... and to also not worship them.

So, now you can comprehend that placing animal images upon groups of stars called constellations allows stories to be communicated to others for some purpose(s). That some people may have come to worship such is neither here nor there as to the original motivations, albeit such religious usage is problematic, as with Revelation.

Because the stars precess, which you agree(?), they can be conveniently used as a clock that operates over a rather large period of time. It makes little import to the average human, so this is likely why your god and his Elect don't want you, or I for that matter, to pay close attention. But, I have been paying some attention, and thus we can see that the clock is indeed being adhered to, no matter what labels you want to apply to the group of humans following the script.

Communism? Karl Marx was married into the Prussian aristocracy. The Elect aristocracy could not let the former serfs eat into their divine seedcorn.

But, isn't it amazing that the most respected institution in the USA, at least, is its military, which operates on pure communist (not mere socialist) economic principles. Excepting, of course, for when its generals and admirals 'retire' and go to work for corporations and such.

In review of the history of the Christian Canon from earliest history - why should any book in the "New Testament" be considered valuable beyond Matthew? I just don't see Revelation being accepted by the original followers of Jesus.
As to your Matthew, well, some people are yet awaiting the rebuilding of the second Third Temple ... so that Jesus's heavenly army can destroy it ... again.

As to Revelation, I guess it all depends on just who your Jesus was. If Saul was sent to destroy the images of animals, then most likely it was the images of animals that are found on the synagogue floors with Jewish zodiac mosaics in Galilee. If your Jesus was indeed a tekton, then he understood what that all was really about. My Jesus's family was from Edessa, only miles from the oldest existing religious complex in the world (~9,000 BCE) which pointed to stars, and a short distance from Harran, the home of the Sabian star watchers.

What you are engaged in is distilling out the 'Jesus' and lessons that you want and make you comfortable into a little box. That conceivably could be great, but we are interesting in understanding, not worshiping, what is outside your little box. I want to know why Jesus got mad at a fig tree, and said he came to sow dissention (even among families), and why he appears to be "the Egyptian". (We know why.)
 

Seeker

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Charles N. Pope's take on this topic: "What I'm finding is that most of the top royal males were taking a turn at being Pope, so any report of a rift between the church and state is "greatly exaggerated." It doesn't appear that even the Jesuits were a "rogue" group, but just another entity under control of the Great King. We would have to determine under which Popes the Jesuits were most virulent and see if that maps to any crackdown by the Great King against wayward princes. Also, real power continues to have been invested in the Great Queen, so we might expect that she had her own "police force" within the Catholic Church, such as the Jesuits to keep all of her "boys" in line. The Jesuits probably also filled the role of the "Goths" or the "Huns," i.e., a specter of fear to keep everyone on best behavior. Every sheep needs a wolf in their life (haha), so yes the royal family created them too!"
 

Seeker

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A wolf and a sheepdog.
HaHa, I can imagine you and Charles having fun synchronizing after he finishes his book!
What I'm finding is that most of the top royal males were taking a turn at being Pope
That is certainly true of our top royal Roman males, starting off with Julius and Augustus Caesar. Roman Piso also named Roman Emperors who were also "Popes", but Charles has skipped ahead over 1000 years and named names of the top royal males of that era.
 

Seeker

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real power continues to have been invested in the Great Queen, so we might expect that she had her own "police force" within the Catholic Church, such as the Jesuits to keep all of her "boys" in line.
Today we have the "Great Queen", 94-year-old Elizabeth II, a venerable institution by herself in Great Britain, and of course she is also the Head of her own church, the Church of England. Princess Diana would have been the perfect successor to her as the next Queen (Consort, in her case), for she was a cult figure and icon, even before her untimely passing. So what really happened to cause her early demise, and can the Jesuits be held responsible for some/all of that?
 

Seeker

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Maybe she did her job and retired ... to the ...
... United States to await Prince Harry, since they shared the same desire for privacy? Maybe you'll meet her in California someday! From her "departure" in 1997, until Harry's arrival in California in 2020, is TWENTY-THREE years, there's that number again!
 
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Seeker

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Is Diana looking intently at an ancient ancestor?
The Greeks sometimes equated Bastet (Egyptian goddess, protector of Lower Egypt, defender of the king, good mother) with one of their goddesses, Artemis (the Roman Diana). Princess Diana must be using her "Eye of Ra" that Bastet was associated with (Bastet was also called "eye of the moon", another Artemis/Diana association).
 
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