Jediism vs. Mugglism?

Richard Stanley

Well-Known Member
In light of the new Star Wars movie, the following excerpt mentions a movement, perhaps cynical parody, to identify oneself as a Jedi Knight with regards to various censuses. Similarly, it has been well argued by Derek Murphy in his Jesus Potter Harry Christ that Harry Potter might just as well form the narrative seed for the next religious paradigm, which I have dubbed Mugglism. After all, both these possibilities don't seem that far afield from what occurred with all the variant cults of nascent Christianity before the Roman amalgamating process won the day. And of course, now we know that the 'Romans' seem to be going with Space Jesus, merely layering on top of the prior two Biblical layers.

In any case, in the link following what I excerpted, Crabtree has provided some interesting Star Wars theology, which Jerry and Joe have hinted they may cover soon after watching the new movie.

Over the last few decades around the world, some fans of the Star Wars films have started describing themselves as "Jedi Knight" when asked what religion they are. In New Zealand, around 20,000-30,000 people have done so every census since 19911. The UK Census of 2001 saw 390 127 people put down "Jedi Knight" as their religion - that's 0.7% of the population2. This resulted from an internet campaign that preceded the Census3. An urban myth had developed that this many votes would make Jedi an "official religion", however this is not true, as the UK is a secular country and there is no such thing as a government-wide list of "official religions"4. The UK's Office for National Statistics concluded that this was a parody (a joke) and included those who wrote Jedi Knight under the "no religion" category5. The campaign was not maintained, and in 2011, less than half of the total number put down "Jedi Knight" as their religion - 176 632 people. The basis of the Jedi Religion in fiction does not mean that it should be dismissed - it is quite possible that the underlying principles of an all-pervading force is true (similar teachings are found in Taoism, for example). Also, it is apparent that given the huge number of contradictory religion, most them are also based on fictions. The unknown factor is to what extend adherents are engaging in parody, and to what extend the Jedi Religion will become established as a serious philosophy.
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Richard Stanley

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Great comment Mark, this might indeed be useful, as Jerry and I have just come to a huge realization with our OT project regarding Egypt. One of those things sitting just under our noses. Now more surgery on the first two posts.

Jerry Russell

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The Harry Potter series is widely seen to draw inspiration and content from events surrounding World War II, as well as the New Testament narrative of Jesus Christ. In a nutshell, it seems that the villain Lord Voldemort represents Hitler, and is defeated by Harry Potter's sacrificial death and resurrection in the seventh book / film of the series, Harry Potter and the Deathly Hollows. However, the simple view that the plot is a black-and-white reprise of Hitler vs. Jesus (or Batman vs Superman?) is belied by various details, beginning with Harry Potter's scar on his forehead, a shape resembling a Wolfsangel, or SS lightning bolt.

Jesus Potter Harry Christ features an entire chapter on the theological analysis of the Harry Potter series, which I skipped right over on first reading because I mainly wanted to see Murphy's take on New Testament historicity. In the chapter, Murphy notes that initial Christian responses to the series and its stunning popularity, were overwhelmingly negative. With all the magic and witchcraft depicted, conservative Christians saw the books as Satanic propaganda, and sought to have the series banned from public schools. The nadir of this trend was reached when The Onion published a satire, which was mistaken for a real news article and quoted earnestly in a massive email campaign in ~2000, leading to book-burnings in 2001 through 2003. According to the Onion article:

Across America, Satanic temples are filling to the rafters with youngsters clamoring for instruction in summoning and conjuring.

Over protests from Christian Right leaders, who oppose the books for containing magic—and, by extension, Satanic religious beliefs—millions of children are willing their bodies and souls to Lucifer in unholy blood covenants. In 1995, it was estimated that some 100,000 Americans, mostly adults, were involved in devil-worship groups. Today, more than 14 million children alone belong to the Church of Satan, thanks largely to the unassuming boy wizard from 4 Privet Drive. ...

And, in a spoofed interview with author JK Rowling, the Onion has her saying:

"These books guide children to an understanding that the weak, idiotic Son Of God is a living hoax who will be humiliated when the rain of fire comes, and will suck the greasy cock of the Dark Lord while we, his faithful servants, laugh and cavort in victory."

However, according to Murphy, the controversy mostly died down after the publication of Deathly Hollows in 2007, with its unmistakable identification of Harry Potter with Jesus Christ. At the same time, Rowling gave some (real) interviews indicating that she considers herself a Christian, and was trying to give a Christian religious undertone to the novels. So, the same magic tricks which would be a sign of witchcraft in the hands of anyone else, are considered OK within a Jesus typology. Of course, this is the same logic as used in the Gospels themselves, and in the apologetics of Christian fathers, in making the distinction between Jesus and other dying and resurrecting gods.

So now that Christians are mostly OK with the Harry Potter Series, alternative media illuminati watchers are becoming much more suspicious. As David Livingstone notes:

With the popularity of the series amongst children, it is clear that the public fail to recognize the extensive overt occult and even Satanic symbolism employed in J.K. Rowling’s blockbuster Harry Potter series. Fundamentally, Rowling’s fictional Harry Potter universe parallels the occult ideology of the Nazis, where a race of “pure-bloods” supremacists, analogues of the Aryans, of the Wizarding World, comprising of an Illuminati or separate shadow society where magic is and practised, who keep themselves hidden from the non-magical humans, known as Muggles. Originally the two worlds co-existed. However, as is typical for occult rationalizations for their secrecy, practitioners of magic had suffered persecution over the centuries, leading them to choose to operate in the shadows. However, pure-blood supremacists must avoid miscegenation with the mongrel race of Muggles, or risk diluting the purity of their blood which is a measure of a wizard’s magical ability.

Even if the hero Harry Potter is a half-breed who himself seeks to conquer the evils of the Wizarding World, nevertheless the effect of the series may be to prime its audience to accept the difference between the wizard magicians and the muggles, as a real and ultimately unbridgeable gap. Livingstone goes on to express his concern that the link between JK Rowling and the Nazis is deeper than a simple literary interest.

What's known and acknowledged as factual, is that JK Rowling admires and reveres the author Jessica Mitford. This Jessica Mitford was famously liberal in her political views, had married into Winston Churchill's family, and also was a member of the Communist Party during the 1940's and 1950's. However, Mitford's sisters, Diana and Unity, were well-known for their elite Fascist connections, and Unity was a romantic interest of Adolf Hitler himself. She shot herself in the head in 1939, but survived until finally succumbing to meningitis in 1948.

Investigative journalist Martin Bright investigated rumors that after the suicide attempt, Unity Mitford was sent for a time to a maternity ward where she gave birth to Hitler's love child. The investigation led to no definitive conclusions, but Bright took the rumors seriously enough to publish them.

Livingstone goes on to say that Hitler's love child went on to give birth to Hitler's grandson; and that this same Hitler's grandson went on to become JK Rowling's boyfriend, and the father of Rowling's daughter Jessica. And, that this same Hitler's grandson, emerged from his long-secret obscurity to give an interview to author John Hamer. And here's Hamer's report:

John Hamer, The Falsification of History: Our Distorted Reality (p. 578). Kindle Edition.

Around Christmas 2011, I corresponded with and spoke to someone who claimed to be the father of JK Rowling’s child, born in 1995. I believed him to be telling the truth because of the detailed story he related to me. He said that in the early 1990s, he, Jessica Mitford and her husband Bob Treuhaft (who was apparently JK Rowling's ‘handler’) in a long-delayed train journey 'brainstormed' the entire Harry Potter story whilst JKR took copious notes. This story was then written by someone whom he referred to as a 'pen and ink stand', a term used to describe someone who is hired to write a story that is not their own idea, with the decision subsequently being made to use JKR as the 'front' for it in-line with the Tavistock plan for the aggressive promotion of anything that undermines family values (ie. her single-mother status).

He also said that it was based loosely on the CS Lewis 'Narnia' stories but qualified that further by saying that he had no idea at the time that all the references to paedophilia, witchcraft, Satanism etc. were going to be incorporated and nor that he would subsequently be subjected to multiple attempts on his life orchestrated by orders from Prince Phillip himself and who he believed was meant to be represented in the stories by Lord Voldemort. He also told me that the scar on Harry Potter's head is a representation of the symbol of the British Union of Fascists. Jessica Mitford's sister was married to Oswald Mosley who fronted the BUF during WWII and he also told me that Jessica Mitford told him bluntly that his grandparents were Unity Valkyrie Mitford, her sister and a certain Adolf Jacobus Hitler!

This tale has some verifiable connections with the "official story" (Rowling also states that the Harry Potter series was conceived on a long train ride in 1990) but also some major discrepancies. A biography of Rowling in "The Scotsman" claims that Rowling moved to Portugal in 1991, where she met the father of her first child, Jorge Arantes. Thus, the child was born in 1993, not 1995. And the father was not the same person as Rowling's boyfriend of 1990, who was said to have been left behind during the fateful train ride in any event.

With all the discrepancies and the fanciful nature of the tale, it's easy to place this in the "fiction" category, along with the Onion article.

But... perhaps a closer look at Harry Potter is called for? Best-selling book series since the Bible, 500 million copies sold. A media franchise with $30 Billion in revenues, including $8.5 Billion at the box office. What have we got here? Christian piety? A Satanic gateway? Nazi propaganda? Or, a statement of anti-bigoted, politically correct goodness?

And, am I the only person left alive who hasn't seen any of these movies, or read any of the books? (Well, I did see the 1st half of Philosopher's Stone, but I got bored and wandered away...)

Richard Stanley

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Maybe Livingstone or Hamer has stated this, but I am wondering if perhaps the Harry Potter tableau is a better description of how society has been working for the last several centuries, as it has been evolving into the supposed "classless society", started in the USA. Another ideal, but never really realized, because we have these various work-arounds for the laws that the 'muggles' must contend with.

Such existed before in the overt classes of Europe and before, but now there are various networks in the shadows, some that we openly tolerate like Greek fraternities and sororities, and the ecclesia of the Church. Some networks of which incorporate 'occult' practices that operate on psychological principles, that behaviorally advantage their members over outsiders. These associations cross geopolitical boundaries, operate inside our governments, churches, and corporations.