Joe is continuing to make a good recovery from his surgery, and felt well enough to come on the show this week. We continued our earlier discussion about the pedophilia scandal.
Jan. 6, 2017: More on Spirit Cooking and Comet Pizza
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Sgt Pepper
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Hey @Jerry Russell , I'd like to hear you and Joe take on this angle regarding Pizzagate for the next podcast: http://naplay.it/892/48-33
It runs for 48:33 to 64:20
It runs for 48:33 to 64:20
Richard Stanley
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Me 2
We didn't talk about this on the show, but I did listen to the "no agenda" podcast segment. When it comes to the pizza pedophilia code language, I feel that there's a reasonably deep reservoir of folklore, example conversations, and artwork that verifies the usage & vocabulary of the code.
The "no agenda" folks speculated that the same code might be used to describe various types & activities of financial corruption. That's an interesting idea, considering the overlapping groups of people involved in the pedophilia scandal and the Clinton Foundation scandal. But, they didn't give any examples or data to build their case. They just made an offhand suggestion. I'd say that there would need to be more investigation & evidence, before it would be possible to draw any conclusions.
Has anyone else noticed any suspicious dialogs that might be explained under this hypothesis?
The "no agenda" folks speculated that the same code might be used to describe various types & activities of financial corruption. That's an interesting idea, considering the overlapping groups of people involved in the pedophilia scandal and the Clinton Foundation scandal. But, they didn't give any examples or data to build their case. They just made an offhand suggestion. I'd say that there would need to be more investigation & evidence, before it would be possible to draw any conclusions.
Has anyone else noticed any suspicious dialogs that might be explained under this hypothesis?
Marcilla Smith
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Respectfully, I've thought that is one of the weaknesses of the hypothesis. This is to say: where is there any example prior to #pizzagate where law enforcement, child advocacy groups, or really anyone claims that "pizza language" is used as code words for child abuse?
Much less than I thought. All I could find is this one entry at Urban Dictionary dated 2011 for "delivering the pizza":
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Delivering the Pizza
Another ingredient of the theory is this 2007 document from the FBI via Wikileaks:
https://wikileaks.org/wiki/FBI_pedophile_symbols
Finally, the materials uncovered in the Pizzagate investigation itself, would appear to supply their own historical context of sorts. So, I would basically stand by my original claim, though it is certainly called into question by the lack of prior documentation.
I suspect if one were to go reading pedophilic porn, more examples would turn up; but carrying out such an investigation, or publishing the results, might be illegal.