Is James Corbett disfo agent? Red FU? On 3-11-11!

lorenhough

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in Japan were James lives, if you say anything bad about being hurt by fuk u shims. You go to jail.

Mmmmm is there really no problem James ?

See this and keep a eye on James he my be very dirty or should I say glowing ?

 

Jerry Russell

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"The Nuclear Proctologist" is juvenile and patronizing in this video as usual. As to James Corbett, he mentions him for a few seconds at the end, and I can't even figure out what the complaint is.
 

lorenhough

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"The Nuclear Proctologist" is juvenile and patronizing in this video as usual. As to James Corbett, he mentions him for a few seconds at the end, and I can't even figure out what the complaint is.
if one judges someone
juvenile and patronizing does that make what there saying wrong!?

More info for judging James

 

Jerry Russell

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So Loren, you would judge James Corbett to be a "disinformation agent" because he doesn't agree with (or hasn't responded to) Judy Wood and her book?

I can't make head or tails of Judy Wood's work myself: I can't figure out what the "Hutchinson Effect" means, or what sort of "directed energy" system could be built to destroy the WTC towers, as she suggested. There was an extended discussion of Judy Wood, here:

http://postflaviana.org/community/index.php?threads/dr-wood.1153/

Her friend Jeff never sent me the promised review copy of Wood's book, so I haven't seen it yet.
 

lorenhough

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if one judges someone
juvenile and patronizing does that make what there saying wrong!?

More info for judging James

So Loren, you would judge James Corbett to be a "disinformation agent" because he doesn't agree with (or hasn't responded to) Judy Wood and her book?

I can't make head or tails of Judy Wood's work myself: I can't figure out what the "Hutchinson Effect" means, or what sort of "directed energy" system could be built to destroy the WTC towers, as she suggested. There was an extended discussion of Judy Wood, here:

http://postflaviana.org/community/index.php?threads/dr-wood.1153/

Her friend Jeff never sent me the promised review copy of Wood's book, so I haven't seen it yet.
Not just that, but this; James poo poos what's happing in Japan at Fukushima !
See for your self;
http://radiationdebate.com/forum/fukushima-radiation/james-corbett-dis-info-agent-unit-3-tale-to-tell-mox-you


In my thinking James is bad news.
James is part of grove at Tragety & hope that has badmouth Jan Irving

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Jerry Russell

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It does seem that James Corbett and Dana Durnford don't see eye to eye on the consequences of fallout from Fukushima. But how does that prove that James Corbett is a "disinformation agent"?
 

lorenhough

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It does seem that James Corbett and Dana Durnford don't see eye to eye on the consequences of fallout from Fukushima. But how does that prove that James Corbett is a "disinformation agent"?
Jerry please do not put words in my mouth, on this thread i asked a question " is janes a dis info agent"???? Or (Is James dirty ?) Not "he James is a dis info agent! " Ok? Please take the time to read and not add to what I say, thx.
I am asking if there is any one else out there who has info on James that might give more light !

For me Fukushima is life or death issue for Japan the North Pacific ocean and the future of nuclear power plant in the world !

I see Dana risking his life to bring in the data, 5000 Thousand species dying in the estuaries along the BC coast starting after fukushaima and has righteous anger!

Those who are for nukes power or play it down and found to be wrong or just giving wrong information on purpose to the public should have to pay consequences !

TV: “Carcasses littering beaches for miles” on Pacific coast of Alaska — “Complete reproductive failure” — “Horrifying… Horrid… Mind-boggling… Off the charts” — Unprecedented die-off “has potential to be biggest mortality event in state history” — “The most extreme I’ve ever seen” (VIDEOS)
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AP, Jan 12, 2016 (emphasis added): “It was pretty horrifying,” [Seabird biologist David Irons] said… An estimated 8,000 of the black and white birds were found dead on the Whittier beach, said [USGS’s] John Piatt… “That’s unprecedented, that sheer number in one location is off the charts,” he said… “The length of time we’ve been seeing dead birds, and the geographic scope, is much greater than before in other die-off events,” said Kathy Kuletz, a biologist for the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service. “We’re looking at many times that. So possibly a good chunk of the population.”… Many females in 2015, however, were too weak to breed, Kuletz said.


Joe and jan just put
Ken on trial! Why can't I?

And why goes jerry have to agree with any thing I say or do?
Unless I brake his new rules ..

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lorenhough

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Jerry please do not put words in my mouth
TV: “Carcasses littering beaches for miles” on Pacific coast of Alaska — “Complete reproductive failure” — “Horrifying… Horrid… Mind-boggling… Off the charts” — Unprecedented die-off “has potential to be biggest mortality event in state history” — “The most extreme I’ve ever seen” (VIDEOS)
Published: January 13th, 2016 at 3:00 pm ET
By ENENews
Email Article
268 comments


AP, Jan 12, 2016 (emphasis added): “It was pretty horrifying,” [Seabird biologist David Irons] said… An estimated 8,000 of the black and white birds were found dead on the Whittier beach, said [USGS’s] John Piatt… “That’s unprecedented, that sheer number in one location is off the charts,” he said… “The length of time we’ve been seeing dead birds, and the geographic scope, is much greater than before in other die-off events,” said Kathy Kuletz, a biologist for the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service. “We’re looking at many times that. So possibly a good chunk of the population.”… Many females in 2015, however, were too weak to breed, Kuletz said.


Joe and jan just put
Ken on trial! Why can't I?

And why goes jerry have to agree with any thing I say or do?
Unless I brake his new rules ..

PODCAST, UNSPUN ON CCN
CCN – UnSpun 010 – The Trial of Ken Kesey – with Jan Irvin & Joe Atwill
January 10, 2016 • 4 Comments


Aired January 05-06, 2016. Joe Atwill and Jan Irvin discuss Zane Kesey's attacks on Jan Irvin regarding Zane's father's role with the CIA and MKULTRA program. We present some of our evidence of Ken Kesey's involvment with the CIA and MKULTRA program, and invite Zane Kesey to come on the show to rebut the evidence.





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lorenhough

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Not just that, but this; James poo poos what's happing in Japan at Fukushima !
See for your self;
http://radiationdebate.com/forum/fukushima-radiation/james-corbett-dis-info-agent-unit-3-tale-to-tell-mox-you


In my thinking James is bad news.
James is part of grove at Tragety & hope that has badmouth Jan Irving

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RBN Gnostic Media Radio 016 – Clint Richardson – Spin Jobs vs. Primary Evidence – 7/20/2015
July 20, 2015 • 0 Comments


In this episode Jan interviews Clint Richardson on his recent article “Spin Job: The Odd Case Of Richard Andrew Grove,” as well as the recent debate with Marc Stevens, and general venting. https://realitybloger.wordpress.com/2015/07/18/spin-job-the-odd-case-of-richard-andrew-grove/ http://www.gnosticmedia.com/CRichardson_MStevens_Anarchy_a_Fallacy https://realitybloger.wordpress.com/ http://media.blubrry.com/gnosticmedia/p/www.gnosticmedia.com/RBN-show-archive/RBN_GnosticMediaRadio_Ep_016_ClintRichardson_SpinJobs_7-20-2015.mp3Podcast: Play in new window | Download (Duration: 1:35:37 — 65.7MB) | EmbedSubscribe: iTunes | Android | RSS

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In this video James says 90% of the truth and 10% lies, lies are set up to distract you to miss inform you and keep you being aware of some of the most important things on the planet to know the truth, I am troubled by those who don't know what's going on in the ocean on our West Coast who claim to think that someone, who says they do. Can't know because the main stream media has said there no problem on the west coast by not reporting it or playing it down. Or saying they don't know why all. Life is dyeing to Mexico in the ocean ..

I have found dr busby mr radiation after Fukushima telling his friend privately to get the hell out of there (HI.) and publicly pooh-poohing it it all back ground radiation, pres. Obama said it nothing but flew his family for 2 week to south America after Fukushima to let the dangerous plume fly over America without him and his family ...

See this and wake up
http://www.fukushimafacts.com/Default.aspx?PID=43&T=Radiation News

Also my site

http://radiationdebate.com/forum/fukushima-radiation/the-ocean-is-broken-source-newcastle-herald-australia-author-greg-ray
 
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Jerry Russell

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Hi Loren,

In the video, James Corbett says that the problem with starfish deaths began as early as 2008, long before the Fukushima incident. When I was researching the fish die-off, I found the same thing: it's been a problem for a long time. There are lots of possible causes for what's going on, including climate change, oxygen levels and pH. Neither you nor Dana Durford has ever addressed this.

So you ask if James Corbett is a "disinfo agent" and I give you my opinion: No he isn't! In my opinion he seems to be a conscientious and diligent part of the alternative media.

But then, you've also asked whether I might be a "disinfo agent" because I'm inclined to think James Corbett is right and Dana Durford is wrong.

Maybe none of us are "disinfo agents" and maybe nobody is intentionally telling "10% lies". Maybe we just have a difference of opinion.
 

lorenhough

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Hi Loren,

In the video, James Corbett says that the problem with starfish deaths began as early as 2008, long before the Fukushima incident. When I was researching the fish die-off, I found the same thing: it's been a problem for a long time. There are lots of possible causes for what's going on, including climate change, oxygen levels and pH. Neither you nor Dana Durford has ever addressed this.

So you ask if James Corbett is a "disinfo agent" and I give you my opinion: No he isn't! In my opinion he seems to be a conscientious and diligent part of the alternative media.

But then, you've also asked whether I might be a "disinfo agent" because I'm inclined to think James Corbett is right and Dana Durford is wrong.

Maybe none of us are "disinfo agents" and maybe nobody is intentionally telling "10% lies". Maybe we just have a difference of opinion.
You say star fish has been a big problem since 2008 what is your evidence and what is big? Thx wishing you well as you eat the fish from the north west coast of Americas ..and tell other it's ok? The word bioaccumulate? Something for you to look up. And is there a safe amount of radiation you can eat?

In my studies never until after 3-11-11 fuku, has all star fish died at the same time from mex to Alaska.
It's not True a have no addressed climate change Ox levels and ph, run off etc.I have and I said those things cannot be affecting it in the timing and in the location at the same time .. That only 3-11-11 fuku has been the elephant in the living room ..

Where is the studies that ph has change from mex. to Alaska just after 3-11-11?
Etc.

11:38 PM EST on September 15th, 2015 | 499 comments
TV: Massacre along West Coast continues — Alarming, bleak situation as disease re-emerges — Hundreds of millions of sea stars estimated dead — Changes in cellular matrix observed, “a lot of interesting genes being found” — Other sea life disappearing as tidepool communities ‘shift’ (VIDEO)

04:29 PM EST on June 25th, 2015 | 187 comments
“Eerie new phenomenon” attacking sea creatures on West Coast — Marine life disappearing from tide pools — Fish, octopus, mussels, urchins, limpets, sea hares “seem to be leaving… there’s something going on” — “Experts have no idea what to expect next” (VIDEO)

10:34 AM EST on April 22nd, 2015 | 565 comments
Professors: 100s of Millions of animals have died recently along West Coast — Worst mortality event ever known — “Wiped out at least 20 different species” — Marine life also disappearing from Fukushima coast (VIDEO)

09:18 AM EST on April 7th, 2015 | 659 comments
National Geographic: Newly discovered mass mortality in sea creatures along California coast — Body parts falling off, animals ‘wasting away’ — Researchers fear sea star epidemic has spread (PHOTOS)

06:58 AM EST on March 14th, 2015 | 203 comments
Expert: Disease outbreak on US West Coast is largest ever seen in any population of animals — Tens of millions dead — Official: Gov’t needs to declare emergency before extinction occurs — Many scientists believed radiation from Fukushima to blame (VIDEO)

12:59 PM EST on November 18th, 2014 | 359 comments
West Coast Scientists: Many animals on sea floor looking sick or dead — “Everything’s dying… Dead, dead, dead, and dead” — Experts investigate what’s killing sea urchins and cucumbers in Pacific Northwest — “Seeing things never previously observed” (PHOTOS)
 
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lorenhough

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You say star fish has been a big problem since 2008 what is your evidence and what is big? Thx wishing you well as you eat the fish from the north west coast of Americas ..
In my studies never until after 3-11-11 fuku, has all star fish died at the same time from mex to Alaska.
It's not True a have no addressed climate change Ox levels and ph, run off etc.I have and I said those things cannot be affecting it in the timing and in the location at the same time .. That only 3-11-11 fuku has been the elephant in the living room ..

Where is the studies that ph has change from mex. to Alaska just after 3-11-11?
Etc.

11:38 PM EST on September 15th, 2015 | 499 comments
TV: Massacre along West Coast continues — Alarming, bleak situation as disease re-emerges — Hundreds of millions of sea stars estimated dead — Changes in cellular matrix observed, “a lot of interesting genes being found” — Other sea life disappearing as tidepool communities ‘shift’ (VIDEO)

04:29 PM EST on June 25th, 2015 | 187 comments
“Eerie new phenomenon” attacking sea creatures on West Coast — Marine life disappearing from tide pools — Fish, octopus, mussels, urchins, limpets, sea hares “seem to be leaving… there’s something going on” — “Experts have no idea what to expect next” (VIDEO)

10:34 AM EST on April 22nd, 2015 | 565 comments
Professors: 100s of Millions of animals have died recently along West Coast — Worst mortality event ever known — “Wiped out at least 20 different species” — Marine life also disappearing from Fukushima coast (VIDEO)

09:18 AM EST on April 7th, 2015 | 659 comments
National Geographic: Newly discovered mass mortality in sea creatures along California coast — Body parts falling off, animals ‘wasting away’ — Researchers fear sea star epidemic has spread (PHOTOS)

06:58 AM EST on March 14th, 2015 | 203 comments
Expert: Disease outbreak on US West Coast is largest ever seen in any population of animals — Tens of millions dead — Official: Gov’t needs to declare emergency before extinction occurs — Many scientists believed radiation from Fukushima to blame (VIDEO)

12:59 PM EST on November 18th, 2014 | 359 comments
West Coast Scientists: Many animals on sea floor looking sick or dead — “Everything’s dying… Dead, dead, dead, and dead” — Experts investigate what’s killing sea urchins and cucumbers in Pacific Northwest — “Seeing things never previously observed” (PHOTOS)
http://radiationdebate.com/forum/fukushima-radiation/west-coast-scientists-many-animals-on-sea-floor-looking-sick-or-dead-everythings-dying-dead-dead-dead-and-dead-experts-investigate-whats-kill

Must see this on star fish take your children to see them for the last time on USA cost,
There is no problem with them here in Fiji etc.

http://radiationdebate.com/forum/fukushima-radiation/experts-fukushima-cant-be-excluded-as-factor-in-sea-stars-turning-to-goo-along-west-coast-it-hasnt-been-ruled-out-theyre-particularly-proficient
 

lorenhough

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Jerry how do u explain that starfish are not dyeing all over the world? With your thories are not logic beg what the Maine media tells you? I my humble thinking.

CBC Headline: Radiation from Fukushima arrives on Alaska coast — University scientists concerned — “Is the food supply safe?… I don’t think anyone can really answer that”

03:13 PM EST on November 2nd, 2013 | 84 comments
NBC News: “Grisly disease decimating starfish populations… from Orange County to Alaska” — Scientists: Alarm as they began eating each other, then melting away — Similar problem on East Coast observed since 2011 — Now spreading at “scary” rate (VIDEO)

07:22 AM EST on October 27th, 2013 | 36 comments
TV: “Like they’re melting… a lot of melting sea stars out there” says Seattle biologist — Veterinarian: It’s concerning, in under a week roughly 60% of species are sick or dying — “Same thing happening near Canada and nobody’s sure why” (VIDEO)

10:29 AM EST on October 19th, 2013 | 146 comments
Sailor: “After we left Japan, it felt as if the ocean itself was dead” — Nothing alive for over 3,000 miles — No longer saw turtles, dolphins, sharks, birds — Saw one whale, it appeared helpless with big tumor on head



02:06 PM EST on October 14th, 2013 | 54 comments
NPR: Starfish epidemic “moving fast” — Turning into ‘goo’ in Washington, not just Canada — “Virus, bacteria or something else entirely”? “Will it spread to other sea life and other parts of West Coast?” (AUDIO)

Jerry how does climate change effect aquarium ? Or ph or Ox levels they can corret for that and change that there, but they can't take the radiation out! Yes?

With out massive r.o. Filters that they have never needed in the past.

03:38 PM EST on October 9th, 2013 | 40 comments
Vancouver Aquarium Blog: Area with ‘rivers’ of body parts from sea stars — ‘Strange behavior’ reported in sea otters (VIDEO)

04:15 PM EST on October 7th, 2013 | 75 comments
“Alarming” mass die-off of starfish in areas along Canada’s Pacific coast — “They’ve disintegrated, now there’s just goo left” — “Appeared to melt” — “Single arms clinging to rock faces, tube feet still moving” — Similar reports as far away as California (VIDEO)
 
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lorenhough

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Hi Loren,

In the video, James Corbett says that the problem with starfish deaths began as early as 2008, long before the Fukushima incident. When I was researching the fish die-off, I found the same thing: it's been a problem for a long time. There are lots of possible causes for what's going on, including climate change, oxygen levels and pH. Neither you nor Dana Durford has ever addressed this.

So you ask if James Corbett is a "disinfo agent" and I give you my opinion: No he isn't! In my opinion he seems to be a conscientious and diligent part of the alternative media.

But then, you've also asked whether I might be a "disinfo agent" because I'm inclined to think James Corbett is right and Dana Durford is wrong.

Maybe none of us are "disinfo agents" and maybe nobody is intentionally telling "10% lies". Maybe we just have a difference of opinion.
Joe is jerry being logical ? Thx.

It's not true Dana has not addressed climate change Ox levels ph etc.


James is on rt TV; that's big time! We know the dirty ones get the big time media! Just more to think about !! When will joe and jan be on rt TV?
 
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lorenhough

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Joe is jerry being logical ? Thx.

It's not true Dana has not addressed climate change Ox levels ph etc.


James is on rt TV; that's big time! We know the dirty ones get the big time media! Just more to think about !! When will joe and jan be on rt TV?
See ocean heat data, why are not starfish dieing off Brasil coast where it's the climate has changed the most,
 

Jerry Russell

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Hi Loren,

The research about starfish is easy to find using google, or you could contact James Corbett directly.

I personally have continued to eat seafood on the average of once a week since 2011. Prices haven't changed noticeably, and it's as readily available as ever. I'm still alive and I haven't been diagnosed with cancer or any other disease. But I'm not telling anyone else what to do.

I agree that RT is big state-controlled media, but sometimes they have their own agenda which might be served by interviewing American alternative media folks. If they called Joe, I'll bet he would pick up the phone. And if he did, it wouldn't even begin to suggest he's a "disinfo agent".

By "addressing climate change" I mean taking the data seriously, instead of dismissing it as propaganda. While it's true that propagandists do take advantage of the climate change data, nevertheless there's a reality behind it.

About the starfish, state of the oceans, radioactivity etc. -- we already had this conversation once before, back in this thread:

http://postflaviana.org/community/index.php?threads/links-for-4-13-podcast.1150

And here is what I said:

We don't claim that the oceans are a topic of specialist expertise at this website. All I know, is what I can read about what the experts say.

The Wikipedia article on ocean acidification purports to be a reflection of expert knowledge. It indicates that the pH of the oceans has dropped an average of .11 since pre-industrial times, meaning that the concentration of H+ ions is up 29%. The change has been accelerating. Experts seem genuinely concerned that such a huge change of pH could easily kill algae and plankton, causing the huge decline in fish and mammals that we're seeing.

Whereas, your own articles say the increase in radioactivity on the West Coast is only 7 Bq per cubic meter, a minuscule amount that is not going to hurt anything. Of course the situation is far worse near Japan, but that's not where we're talking about.

You posted the headline of this ENE News article:

http://enenews.com/professors-large...-sea-life-along-fukushima-coast-missing-video

Go and read the article! It clearly says "Researchers have found no evidence of a link between the ongoing Fukushima disaster and the starfish die-off". The article also contains a lot of fog about concerned citizens who don't believe the researchers, but the headline is about what the professors think.

What do researchers say is the problem? A virus! Why are starfish vulnerable to a virus? Researchers don't say, but if I were going to speculate, I think low pH seems much more likely to be the cause, or maybe lack of food, rather than radiation at 7 Bq/m3.

Why is this so important to you, Loren? I'll tell you why: it seems to be a crucial part of your worldview, that the human race of 7 billion people can go right on burning fossil fuels at the rate we're doing now, or at an increasing rate, with no ecological consequences worth mentioning. You're in denial of any evidence to the contrary.

[....]

I'm convinced that everything is not OK about nuclear power, and I'm very concerned about the health of life in the oceans. I think that this topic is very worthwhile overall.

But -- what I feel is morally wrong, is telling people that "everything is OK" about CO2 emissions, anthropogenic global warming (AGW), ocean acidification, overfishing, plastics in the ocean, etcetera. You've been saying that it's all a hoax, that it is being foisted on us by elite bankers, part of a de-population agenda, and so forth, and I think that's an oversimplification. These are all real problems, which interact in complex ways with the radioactive contamination problem.

The implication that we need to choose between fossil fuels vs. nuclear power plants is a false dialectic. I don't support nuclear power; on the contrary, I think we need a program to shut down the existing reactors and store away the nuclear waste as safely as possible. It might eventually become feasible to transmute these radioactive substances back into safe long-lived isotopes eventually, if the human race survives that long.

I also feel concerns about the idea that people can save themselves by moving to Fiji. I mean, it might work! I'm willing to believe that you'll improve your odds, or at least live for a few years longer. But I hope we also have something to offer for people who want to stay here and fight for survival.​
 

lorenhough

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Hi Loren,

The research about starfish is easy to find using google, or you could contact James Corbett directly.

I personally have continued to eat seafood on the average of once a week since 2011. Prices haven't changed noticeably, and it's as readily available as ever. I'm still alive and I haven't been diagnosed with cancer or any other disease. But I'm not telling anyone else what to do.

I agree that RT is big state-controlled media, but sometimes they have their own agenda which might be served by interviewing American alternative media folks. If they called Joe, I'll bet he would pick up the phone. And if he did, it wouldn't even begin to suggest he's a "disinfo agent".

By "addressing climate change" I mean taking the data seriously, instead of dismissing it as propaganda. While it's true that propagandists do take advantage of the climate change data, nevertheless there's a reality behind it.

About the starfish, state of the oceans, radioactivity etc. -- we already had this conversation once before, back in this thread:

http://postflaviana.org/community/index.php?threads/links-for-4-13-podcast.1150

And here is what I said:

We don't claim that the oceans are a topic of specialist expertise at this website. All I know, is what I can read about what the experts say.

The Wikipedia article on ocean acidification purports to be a reflection of expert knowledge. It indicates that the pH of the oceans has dropped an average of .11 since pre-industrial times, meaning that the concentration of H+ ions is up 29%. The change has been accelerating. Experts seem genuinely concerned that such a huge change of pH could easily kill algae and plankton, causing the huge decline in fish and mammals that we're seeing.

Whereas, your own articles say the increase in radioactivity on the West Coast is only 7 Bq per cubic meter, a minuscule amount that is not going to hurt anything. Of course the situation is far worse near Japan, but that's not where we're talking about.

You posted the headline of this ENE News article:

http://enenews.com/professors-large...-sea-life-along-fukushima-coast-missing-video

Go and read the article! It clearly says "Researchers have found no evidence of a link between the ongoing Fukushima disaster and the starfish die-off". The article also contains a lot of fog about concerned citizens who don't believe the researchers, but the headline is about what the professors think.

What do researchers say is the problem? A virus! Why are starfish vulnerable to a virus? Researchers don't say, but if I were going to speculate, I think low pH seems much more likely to be the cause, or maybe lack of food, rather than radiation at 7 Bq/m3.

Why is this so important to you, Loren? I'll tell you why: it seems to be a crucial part of your worldview, that the human race of 7 billion people can go right on burning fossil fuels at the rate we're doing now, or at an increasing rate, with no ecological consequences worth mentioning. You're in denial of any evidence to the contrary.

[....]

I'm convinced that everything is not OK about nuclear power, and I'm very concerned about the health of life in the oceans. I think that this topic is very worthwhile overall.

But -- what I feel is morally wrong, is telling people that "everything is OK" about CO2 emissions, anthropogenic global warming (AGW), ocean acidification, overfishing, plastics in the ocean, etcetera. You've been saying that it's all a hoax, that it is being foisted on us by elite bankers, part of a de-population agenda, and so forth, and I think that's an oversimplification. These are all real problems, which interact in complex ways with the radioactive contamination problem.

The implication that we need to choose between fossil fuels vs. nuclear power plants is a false dialectic. I don't support nuclear power; on the contrary, I think we need a program to shut down the existing reactors and store away the nuclear waste as safely as possible. It might eventually become feasible to transmute these radioactive substances back into safe long-lived isotopes eventually, if the human race survives that long.

I also feel concerns about the idea that people can save themselves by moving to Fiji. I mean, it might work! I'm willing to believe that you'll improve your odds, or at least live for a few years longer. But I hope we also have something to offer for people who want to stay here and fight for survival.​
hi Jerry

How does climate change do this ?

Peer Reviewed Study Shows 14,000 U.S. Deaths from Fukushima - YouTube
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bdow_6pN6jY
Dec 22, 2011 - Uploaded by The Big Picture RT
Japan May Send 40 Million People To Russian Islands Radiation! . Read more ... So after ...

James is me "911" ( James say it's a inside job) how does he get on rt tv over and over and never talk about 911, on rt TV.


Small amount of radionuclides bioaccumulate don't just talk about what's in the water
Please don't put words in my mouth ! When have said plastic is not a problem, I have said don't let it touch your food or drink ! 10000 of sciencetest believe as I'd that co2 is good for you.

How does not cutting down trees save co2 from the air, as they are paying people here in Fiji to do? If it's oil and coal that's the problem, it's like paying farmers not to grow grass for cattle.

How do you know the fish is ok, ? good luck eat them till there all gone from the west coast. As they are all dyeing off.
Then what will you eat?
We were told radiation is in the cows milk do you drink it too?

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Mar 31, 2011 - Low levels of radiation found in U.S. milk ... The California Department of Public Health said on its website that a similar result was found March 28 at a dairy in San Luis Obispo County.

How much radiation there is no safe amount right jerry?
 
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“We see radiation from Fukushima in soils in Southern California, especially our desert regions” — High concentrations in seaweed prevented harvest this year — Also found in cattle and chicken feed (AUDIO)
Published: January 5th, 2014 at 5:20 pm ET
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After Fukushima – Part 2 of 2, Disaster Awareness Preparedness and Planning/News, Views, and Alerts, Dec. 8, 2013:

(The first few minutes is an interview with Atyia Martin, Director of the Office of Public Health Preparedness at the Boston Public Health Commission)

At 6:15 in

Dr. Sherridan Ross, medical doctor, retired professor at University of California – Irvine, member of the Board of Directors at The Compton Community Organic Garden: Over here we’ve done a lot of things to make sure that our food supply has been safe, but it’s also cost us quite a bit. What we’d usually do is harvest a lot of the seaweed for places such as the Central Valley where a lot of our root crops, and also our lettuce and things come from. But because of the high concentration of radiation that’s in the seaweed, we haven’t been able to do that this year. We try to use the coast of California — initially we’d harvest tons of it, because it’s a renewable source, it’s very good, good for sucking up radiation and stuff that’s in the soil — that was our ‘out’.

We do see the radiation from Fukushima in the soils in Southern California, especially in our desert regions. For some reason we’re seeing a lot of that, more prevalent — even though it is in small amounts, it’s still there. […] That’s one of the things that’s been happening with the bioengineering of foods, to get it out of the food source. We’ve been also seeing it in small amounts in a lot of the food sources that we give to our cattle and to our chickens. So these are the things that we’ve been taking note of and things that we’ve been trying to monitor and make sure that it doesn’t get to a higher level within our food sources.

Jerry you don't feel it's safe to tell others to eat fish from whe west coast of America but you eat it? Really?

You saying joe might get a call from rt TV is just changing the subject and how much do you want to bet he will not? Why don't you contact James or rt TV and see if they will put you on for 911 and Joe on for who is behind the hippy drug music seen! To prove your point. And help get the info out. Being a dr. They might here you out.

Funny you say what I say is just simplfcation as you simplify what I say.

You don't understand what have said because you don't look at the evidence
 
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