Infiltration of the patriot movement!

Jerry Russell

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There was another post about this in another thread a couple days ago. I'm not sure why this needs a new thread.
 

Jerry Russell

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So here's the story in a nutshell, from Eastwood's blurb:

Called up in the middle of breakfast, Vinny Eastwood lays out in detail the direct evidence linking internet Talk Radio Show host Peter Santilli to the FBI and his long track record of crimes he never seems to be punished for including carrying a concealed handgun in Ohio without a permit, under Ohio state law the offenses he was charged with came with a mandatory minimum sentence of up to 5 years, he was release the very next day, on $0 bail and all charges were dropped!
Now Pete Santilli is in Oregon and has been appointed the lead press agent for the protesters who've taken over a federal building, these people must be warned about this wolf in sheeps clothing in order to prevent any loss of life among veterans, militia and the American people at the hands of the government and the provocateurs in their employ.​

More about Santilli is at this link -- generally confirming that Santilli has a rather unsavory past that might indeed have left him in a compromised position.

https://susannahcole.wordpress.com/2013/04/17/who-is-this-guy-pete-santilli/

But, what I would disagree with in Eastwood's analysis, is the suggestion that the protest at the Oregon forest service federal building is otherwise made of innocent "patriots". On the contrary, the motives of the entire operation are highly suspect, and the Bundy family was involved in another standoff against Federal officers, which ended in a strange uncontested victory for the ranchers.

Notice the contrast here between Eastwood et al., who offer up abundant evidence making a convincing case that Santilli is some sort of "wolf in sheep's clothing", as opposed to Loren's case against Corbett, which amounts to that Corbett is wrong 10% of the time, or at least according to Loren's assessment of right and wrong. Shucks, being wrong part of the time is just part of the human condition. If I'm only wrong 10% of the time, I'd be delighted and very proud of myself.
 

Richard Stanley

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This whole thing, of course, centers around land ownership and goes to the basis of how land was historically doled out to individuals over time. I believe the manner in which we have ended up in the west is much a function of the first American civil war, the one with the Mormons, and thus a desire to mitigate their spread, itself an attempt of England to mitigate America's westward spread. This, as discussed by Tarpley in his Romney book, that one that discusses the Mormon Oath of Vengeance against the USA. Yet we almost elected this 'patriot', perhaps the #2 man in the Mormon Church, to the US presidency.

Romney's and Jon Huntsman's ancestors were participants in the Mountain Meadows Massacre, and thus declared the first organized terror organization by a US president (Pierce).
The Bundy's are Mormon:

The militia that has occupied the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge headquarters represents a strain of right-wing Mormonism that took shape after World War II.

That was when laissez-faire economics, accompanied by staunch anti-Communism, began to supplant traditional Mormon communitarianism in the Mountain West. The key figures in the shift were Ezra Taft Benson, the former Secretary of Agriculture in the Eisenhower Administration who became president of the LDS Church in 1985; Benson’s son Reed, an active member of the John Birch Society; Ernest Wilkinson, president of Brigham Young University; and W. Cleon Skousen, a sometime member of the BYU faculty who worked for the F.B.I. and later served as chief of police in Salt Lake City.

In The Mormon People, Matthew Bowman points out that by the 1970s, Benson’s “moralistic libertarianism had gained a vocal following in the church.” Concurrently, dispensationalist theology was borrowed from Protestant fundamentalism by Joseph Fielding Smith and Bruce McConkie, LDS leaders whose influential theological writings wove elements of premillennialism into traditional Mormon ideas of the End Times — what Mormons refer to as “the last days.” ...

http://marksilk.religionnews.com/2016/01/07/the-mormon-messianism-of-the-oregon-occupiers/
 

Richard Stanley

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I should also point out that Joseph Smith ran for US President and stated a desire to transform the USA into a Mormon theocracy.

Continuing from the above excerpt:
Smith’s and McConkie’s approach was adopted by Skousen in a series of popular books that made much of the Book of Mormon’s sacralization of the American continent and preached a revived view of the United States as guarantor of individual liberty and place where Christ’s church would be restored. In such late works as The Majesty of God’s Law: It’s Coming to America and The Cleansing of America, Skousen went so far as to predict that America would be reborn as a “Zion society” with the entire population organized into Mormon wards, and a restored U.S. Constitution that eliminated political parties and popular voting for the president. In the latter volume, written in 1994 (though published posthumously only in 2010), Skousen envisioned an American Zion purged of wickedness that would serve as a refuge for Mormons from around the world while Planet Earth suffered through an End Times scenario culminating in the Battle of Armageddon.

Among the Malheur occupiers is Lavoy Finicum, a Mormon rancher from Arizona who is the author of Only By Blood and Suffering, a novel about one family’s efforts to “survive in the face of devastating end-times chaos.” Yesterday, Finicum told reporters yesterday that he’d prefer death over prison. Ammon Bundy, the leader of the Malheur occupation, and his father Cliven, who gained national notoriety for a similar standoff at his Nevada ranch in 2014, likewise belong to the Skousenite wing of contemporary Mormonism.

http://marksilk.religionnews.com/2016/01/07/the-mormon-messianism-of-the-oregon-occupiers/
As I have clearly stated elsewhere, the concept of a 'patriot' is just one more concept that one has to clearly understand. The term comes from one that does their patrone's bidding, usually stemming from the days when one manumitted their slave(s) into freemen. Doing the patrone's bidding does not necessarily mean that one is doing so wittingly in the sense of understanding the patrone's motives at least. So when the Mormon Glen Beck talks to the 'patriots' about what is what in America, what he is really telling you is his veiled Mormon version.
 
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