Gun Culture and the Dystopian AI Security Bots

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  1. Richard Stanley

    Richard Stanley Administrator

    The following excerpted article features an interview with the Australian ambassador to the USA, Joe Hockey, where they discuss the cultural differences between Australia and the USA that makes addressing gun issues so much more difficult in the USA than in Australia, of most anywhere else for that matter.

    The cultural difference is impact of the American Revolution and Civil War, neither of which Australia has experienced anything like such. This despite similarities in having Anglo-European populations colonize and become their respective dominant ethnic cultures.

    In several places on this site we have discussed the real Machiavellian history (as related by such as Tupper Saussy in his Rulers of Evil) of the American Revolution, where agents provocateur on both sides of the Atlantic turned the once happy British colonial subjects into revolutionaries. This makes the USA unique amongst the white dominated colonial realms, in combination with the comparatively out-sized proportion today of Christian fundamentalists who took and take their core cultural clues from such as the Old Testament Conquest of the Promised Land.

    All this ignores, however, that most of Europe spent countless centuries in warfare, much of it ironically from Christian schism (which I also say was cynically contrived), and that gave motivation to flee from there to the various colonial projects. This begs the question as to why Europe doesn't have the same gun issues as the USA. Perhaps the answer to this seeming paradox is that Europe played host to WWI and WWII, which many others and I say were cynically contrived. They were finally exhausted from this foolishness.

    And so I have excerpted the last question of the interview, and Ambassador Hockey speculates that the solution will come from AI bots located atop most every building and pole in the USA. In America, the solution to gun problems, is more guns, and in this case controlled either remotely or via AI software. How comforting. But maybe Ambassador Hockey is speaking somewhat puck-in-cheek, perhaps trying to scare us in a different direction?

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    Looking ahead five or 10 years, where do you see gun violence in America?

    AI is changing everything. In five to 10 years, there will be dishes on top of every building, fully equipped with AI technology, fully armed, with cameras. And that will be the way people defend themselves.

    https://www.citylab.com/life/2018/02/australia-ambassador-on-why-gun-laws-cant-save-america/553655/

    Imagine the level of software sophistication needed to make such a bot definitively reliable. Will it have to wait till firing starts, or will it be able to preempt firing? Without some form of preemption how will such bots, located outdoors, be able to prevent gun firings indoors?

    This presents similar conundrums as Russian's and NRA's Trumpian trial balloon to arm 20% of American teachers across the country. At least when the police show up, they wont have to worry about whether they are shooting a criminal or an armed teacher, or wonder if the teacher has gone postal. Besides which, the bots will deter most such events, ... because we all know how rational these people are.

    Armed teachers or bots, either way there's a lot of moolah to be made.
     
  2. Jerry Russell

    Jerry Russell Administrator Staff Member

    The following video shamelessly panders to stereotypical American views about race relations. But, it's pretty funny.

     
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  3. Richard Stanley

    Richard Stanley Administrator

    Yes, that's hilarious.

    Well, below is the solution for taking care of business indoors, as well as outdoors. This is beyond scary. The second half of the video presents a scenario of these things being used for political suppression.

     
  4. Richard Stanley

    Richard Stanley Administrator

    I just happened to run across the following article about the origins of the Second Amendment and that the motivations for it primarily having to do with putting down slave rebellions. Thus, the broader individual and family self-defense motive mainly being subservient to the former. The confusion about this stemming from the fact that the wording of the amendment was 'white-washed' of this specific connotation - and no one teaches this history in our schools.

    The real reason the Second Amendment was ratified, and why it says “State” instead of “Country” (the Framers knew the difference – see the 10th Amendment), was to preserve the slave patrol militias in the southern states, which was necessary to get Virginia’s vote. Founders Patrick Henry, George Mason, and James Madison were totally clear on that . . . and we all should be too.

    In the beginning, there were the militias. In the South, they were also called the “slave patrols,” and they were regulated by the states.

    In Georgia, for example, a generation before the American Revolution, laws were passed in 1755 and 1757 that required all plantation owners or their male white employees to be members of the Georgia Militia, and for those armed militia members to make monthly inspections of the quarters of all slaves in the state. The law defined which counties had which armed militias and even required armed militia members to keep a keen eye out for slaves who may be planning uprisings.

    As Dr. Carl T. Bogus wrote for the University of California Law Review in 1998, “The Georgia statutes required patrols, under the direction of commissioned militia officers, to examine every plantation each month and authorized them to search ‘all Negro Houses for offensive Weapons and Ammunition’ and to apprehend and give twenty lashes to any slave found outside plantation grounds.” ...

    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/02/second-amendment-ratified-preserve-slavery/

    It turns out that the article is a copy of one Jerry had discovered some time ago: https://postflaviana.org/community/...the-states-or-by-the-citizens.1710/#post-7213

    In thinking about this specific thread, it is ironic that we are talking about lethal bots, where these armed automatons' wider robot cousins are somewhat a replacement for human slaves. The latest episode of the X-Files, BTW, has Scully and Mulder swarmed by waves of 'angry' networked drones, robots, home appliances, driver-less AI vehicles and such, all because Mulder was not willing to tip the bot chefs at an automated sushi restaurant.
     
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