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Speaking of Plato, I know this is off topic and would need a new thread if pursued, but has Postflaviana ever addressed the subject of Mensa, the high IQ society that nowadays just seems to play a lot of harmless games. When it was founded at Oxford University in 1946, however, right after the end of WWII, the rather grandiose notion of its founders was that it was to be an elite fraternity of Plato's "Philosopher Kings" (an aristocracy of intelligence), who were supposed to be advisers to the world governments and prevent another world war.
 

Jerry Russell

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Claude is also going to tell you that he has Captain Nemo's submarine and has exhaustively used it to examine the seafloors that are less than 400 feet deep for evidence of human civilizations. He found nothing so he says.
No, Nic Flemming is the guy with Captain Nemo's submarine. He wrote this interesting review of Graham Hancock's "Flooded Kingdoms of the Ice Age" TV series. I've copied a significant excerpt, but there's much more at the jump.

http://www.hallofmaat.com/papers/lostciv_floodedkingdoms36.html

On the following points proposed by Graham Hancock the bulk of scientific and archaeological data and theory agrees with his propositions:
The global sea level was about 150 metres lower during the peak of the last Ice Age, and was at its lowest about 20,000 years ago. The sea was below its present level from 100,000 to 5,000 years ago.
Human beings, and all the normal vegetation and fauna of the neighbouring land-mass, extended onto the continental shelf during the period when the sea level was lower than at present, that is roughly from 100,000 years ago to 5,000 years ago.
When the sea level rose again, while the ice caps were melting, vegetation was killed off by salination and inundated (gradually), while animals and people who had been on the continental shelf moved back onto the continents and large islands such as Japan, Sri Lanka, Tasmania, Britain and Ireland where they joined the people who had been living there anyway.
Flood myths that occur all over the world are the folk memory of the experience of suffering 10,000 years of (slowly) rising sea level, and the continuous loss of hunting and foraging territory.
There is a continuing need to discover, categorise, and date more prehistoric archaeological sites offshore. Work by amateur archaeologists and chance finds by trawler fishermen, scuba sports divers, and sponge divers who may recover stone tools from the seabed can be of great importance.
[....]
If Graham Hancock wants to make an exciting programme about the human occupation of the continental shelves during the Ice Age - which is a very important subject - why does he not film the incredible Grotte Cosquer where rock paintings 19,000 years old are reached from a cave entrance 40 metres below the sea?
Why does he not film the submerged Neolithic village at Atlit off Israel, or the submerged Jomon culture site at a depth of 25 metres off Tokonami River, Japan? Why not photograph the caves and terraces off British Columbia where Daryl Fedje found stone tools 52 metres below the sea?
These places really exist, and have been mapped, and archaeologists have found skeletons, and charcoal from fires, and baskets, and fresh-water wells, and other structures ten thousand years old and more.
Why photograph rocks and call them a "Lost Civilisation"? No-one else working offshore sees anything like that which Hancock claims to see. He is living in a different world.
I have dived at almost every spot mentioned by the programme, and at many more with verifiable ancient ruins and occupied stone-age sites. This stuff was boring by comparison with reality.
 

Jerry Russell

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... has Postflaviana ever addressed the subject of Mensa, the high IQ society that nowadays just seems to play a lot of harmless games.
We haven't. But, it's an interesting suggestion.

Computer hint: Google and DuckDuckGo are both excellent at searching this site. The query <Mensa site: postflaviana.org> at either search engine, turns up a null result. Which confirms my spotty memory, that Mensa hasn't ever come up. There's also a search engine built into the Xenforo forum software, but it doesn't work nearly as well as DDG or Google.
 
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Claude Badley

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The importance of Hancock's work, despite its ambiguity...
Why photograph rocks and call them a "Lost Civilisation"? No-one else working offshore sees anything like that which Hancock claims to see. He is living in a different world.
I have dived at almost every spot mentioned by the programme, and at many more with verifiable ancient ruins and occupied stone-age sites. This stuff was boring by comparison with reality.
...is that the place investigated is Yonaguni Island, the closest Japanese island to Taiwan. Taiwan is the original source of the Polynesians, and they learnt their superlative navigational abilities after the Ice Age when they had to travel long distances (>100 km) to reach the nearest land, whether China, Yonaguni or the northern outposts of the Philippine chain (Orchid Island and Lu Tao).

Yours faithfully
Craude Badrey
 
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Jerry Russell

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The Yonaguni Monument has been controversial since well before Hancock investigated it.

FWIW, the "Archaeology Review" bloggers aren't convinced that the monument is a human construction. They point out that the angles aren't exactly right angles, that the steps are far too tall for human use, that similar but obviously natural rock formations exist above sea level on the island, and (most importantly) there are no artifacts of human culture or habitation whatsoever, to be found anywhere near the "monument".

https://ahotcupofjoe.net/2009/03/the-ancient-underwater-ruins-of-yonaguni-japan/

https://ahotcupofjoe.net/2017/10/yonaguni-monumental-ruins-natural-geology/
 

Richard Stanley

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FWIW, the "Archaeology Review" bloggers aren't convinced that the monument is a human construction. They point out that the angles aren't exactly right angles
Many architects today do not like right angles, so maybe the Yoni-goons of yore were just avant-garde?

Or, ... maybe Building 7 at the WTC was not built by ... humans?
 
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