I’m still listening to this episode, but Ellis has lost me at the point of explaining away the effect of “chemtrails”/“persistent contrails.” This topic is covered extensively by Dane Wigington’s website, geoengineeringwatch.org, among other sites. No discussion on climate change is complete without inclusion of geoengineering operations, which are mostly shrouded in secrecy to date, except for acknowledgement by former CIA director, John Brennan, of “solar radiation management” efforts. One can find YouTube videos of academic lectures on geoengineering science, “albedo modification,” documentaries, and videos showing trails being emitted intermittently from aircraft—alongside other aircraft emitting condensation trails we are familiar with from our youth. Pilots are some of the toughest nuts to crack when engaging them in discussions of geoengineering and aerosol dispersions.