Claude Badley

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Dinosaurs, especially those who frequented the Epstein bath-house, are big and so eat a lot...
Are the Clinton's getting thrown under the bus, too close to the Epstein toilet?
...therefore they need a lot of money supplied for their care. I.e. logically Clintons would willingly fund Djerassic Park, even if only to protect themselves from a dino-mauling!

Yours faithfully

Richard Stanley

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This interview with Whitney Webb is pretty frightening. She discusses that Grizlane's sisters are every bit as dangerous as Grizlane, perhaps even more so. Webb demonstrates that Bill (Maxwell) Gates has a much deeper association with the Maxwell family and Epstein than has been let on. As well, she discusses the historical work of CIA Bill Barr, also connected to Epstein via Barr's CIA father.

The linked names and entities is quite long including Paul Allen, Peter Thiel, Eric Schmidt, the Clintons, and even going back to the old PROMIS software scandal --- which was intimately connected to Robert Maxwell and daughter Isabel.

This also links into the behind the scenes actions of the Covid-19 plandemic, with an associated company offering "free" IT security to American hospitals and more infrastructure. It being operated by former Microsoft employees, where Microsoft has vast data mining interests and in competition with such as Huawei.

The following excerpt is from an old article, before Epstein's death, and posted on Webb's personal site. It centers on the network around Roy Cohn, that reached deep into the Deep State and links Double Agent Orange into all of this:

As MintPress reported last week, Epstein was able to run this sordid operation for so long precisely because his was only the latest incarnation of a much older, more extensive operation that began in the 1950s and perhaps even earlier.
Starting first with mob-linked liquor baron Lewis Rosenstiel and later with Roy Cohn, Rosenstiel’s protege and future mentor to Donald Trump, Epstein’s is just one of the many sexual blackmail operations involving children that are all tied to the same network, which includes elements of organized crime, powerful Washington politicians, lobbyists and “fixers,” and clear links to intelligence as well as the FBI.
This report, Part II of this series titled “The Jeffrey Epstein Scandal: Too Big To Fail,” will delve into Cohn’s close ties to the Reagan administration, which was also closely tied to the same organized crime network led by the infamous mob figure Meyer Lansky, which was discussed in Part I. Of particular importance is the “Iran Contra” network, a group of Reagan officials and associates who played key roles in the Iran Contra scandal. Though it has remained relatively unknown for years, many key figures in that same network, and several fronts for the CIA that were involved in funneling money to the Central American Contra paramilitaries, were also trafficking minors for their sexual exploitation and use in sexual blackmail rings.
Several of these rings made headlines at one point or another over the years — from the “call boy ring” run by Washington lobbyist Craig Spence, to the Franklin child-sex and murder ring run by Republican operative Larry King, to the scandal that enveloped the Catholic charity Covenant House in the late 1980s.
Yet, as this report will show, all of these rings — and more — were connected to the same network that involved key figures linked to the Reagan White House and linked to Roy Cohn — revealing the true scope of the sordid sexual blackmail operations and sex rings that involved the trafficking of children within the U.S. and even in Central America for their exploitation by dangerous and powerful pedophiles in the United States. ...

Richard Stanley

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I suppose this video could be posted under a number of categories, but I'm posting it here because it links to Epstein et al. and such. I had been pondering recently about the general pedophile problem in society and from that as to why the only people we heard about in media were the lower strata of society and in contrast usually nothing about the rich. That is, unless there was an individual here and there where the story had leaked out and was just too salacious.

Well, the answer appears to be that the rich, who must have the same proportion of propensities, have not only greater resources but the ability to use networking to their advantage. Then, we must consider that such becomes an efficient control mechanism to keep all the power players in alignment, ... for when and where it counts.
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Jerry Russell

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On the video, Whitney Webb mentions various technical problems and DDS attacks mounted against her Unlimited Hangout article, but it all seems to be working this morning.

At the risk of seeming naive or trite, it seems to me that it's possible that Kutcher and his "Thorn" NGO might genuinely be motivated by the best of intentions, and that their goal is exactly as stated, to "combat child trafficking". But whether that's true or not, this report uncovers some connections that could certainly undermine Thorn's ability to achieve its goals, to say the least.

Richard Stanley

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I imagine the 'event horizon' threshold (of 'compromise') is different for various individuals or perhaps categories of people. As is said for politicians, you get invited to certain parties, one thing leads to another, and you're hooked.

From my years in the city of angels, in a different industry, I came into contact with a fair number of lower strata people in the "biz", of whom they seemed genuine and sincere in their social attitudes, without such higher level scandals as part of their daily diet. But how much of this is learning the 'blind eye'?

I also noticed that she and this Graham Elwood are using the new Rokfin platform, but it appears that one needs to register to use it. I wonder if we can post Rokfin videos somehow?

Richard Stanley

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I just mentioned the Red Scare on the Trump thread and the below excerpt mentions it as well. Webb mentions the Kennedys in passing in this foundational article about the Epstein operation, but we should also remember that Joseph Kennedy got his start in Prohibition rum-running as did these Webb mentioned players leading up to Roy Cohn. Later Webb will throw in that Trump owned the Plaza Hotel during the time of his 'freindship' with Epstein (see the second excerpt) and discuss the sex parties of the day. Just more coincidence?

Perhaps the most damning confirmation of Cohn’s activities in Suite 233 comes from statements made by Cohn himself to former NYPD detective and ex-head of the department’s Human-Trafficking and Vice-Related Crimes Division, James Rothstein. Rothstein later told John DeCamp — a former Nebraska state senator who investigated a government-connected child sex ring based in Omaha — among other investigators, that Cohn had admitted to being part of a sexual blackmail operation targeting politicians with child prostitutes during a sit-down interview with the former detective.
Rothstein told DeCamp the following about Cohn:
Cohn’s job was to run the little boys. Say you had an admiral, a general, a congressman, who did not want to go along with the program. Cohn’s job was to set them up, then they would go along. Cohn told me that himself.”
Rothstein later told Paul David Collins, a former journalist turned researcher, that Cohn had also identified this sexual blackmail operation as being part of the anti-communist crusade of the time.
The fact that Cohn, per Rothstein’s recollection, stated that the child sex blackmail ring was part of the government-sponsored anti-communist crusade suggests that elements of the government, including Hoover’s FBI, may have been connected at a much broader level than Hoover’s own personal involvement, as the FBI closely coordinated with McCarthy and Cohn for much of the red scare.
It is also worth noting that among Hoover’s many “secret” blackmail files was a sizeable dossier on Senator McCarthy, the contents of which strongly suggested that the senator himself was interested in underage girls. According to journalist and author David Talbot, Hoover’s file on McCarthy was “filled with disturbing stories about McCarthy’s habit of drunkenly groping young girls’ breasts and buttocks. The stories were so widespread that they became ‘common knowledge’ in the capital, according to one FBI chronicler.”...

From the same link:

The question that necessarily arises from revelations regarding Cohn’s activities in Suite 233 is who else was Cohn “protecting” and servicing with underage prostitutes? One of them could very well have been one of Cohn’s close friends and clients, Cardinal Francis Spellman of the Archdiocese of New York, who was said to have been present at some of these parties Cohn hosted at the Plaza Hotel.
Spellman — one of the most powerful figures in the Catholic Church in North America, who was sometimes referred to as “America’s Pope” — was accused of not only condoning pedophilia in the Catholic church and ordaining known pedophiles including Cardinal Theodore “Uncle Teddy” McCarrick, but also engaging in it himself to such an extent that many New York area priests widely referred to him as “Mary.” Furthermore, J. Edgar Hoover was said to have a file detailing the cardinal’s sex life, suggesting Spellman’s involvement in the ring and pedophile protection racket in which Cohn and Hoover were personally involved.
People close to Cohn often remarked that he was frequently surrounded by groups of young boys, but seemed to think nothing of it. Similar off-handed comments about Epstein’s penchant for minors were made by those close to him prior to his arrest.
Controversial Republican political operative and “dirty trickster” Roger Stone — who, like Donald Trump, was also a protégé of Cohn — said the following about Cohn’s sex life during an interview with The New Yorker in 2008:
Roy was not gay. He was a man who liked having sex with men. Gays were weak, effeminate. He always seemed to have these young blond boys around. It just wasn’t discussed. He was interested in power and access.” (emphasis added)
Compare this quote from Stone to what Donald Trump, who was also close to Cohn, would later say about Jeffrey Epstein, with whom he was also closely associated:
I’ve known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it — Jeffrey enjoys his social life.” (emphasis added)
Though it is unknown how long the sex ring at the Plaza Hotel continued, and whether it continued after Cohn’s death from AIDS in 1986, it is worth noting that Donald Trump purchased the Plaza Hotel in 1988. It would later be reported and confirmed by then-attendees that Trump “used to host parties in suites at the Plaza Hotel when he owned it, where young women and girls were introduced to older, richer men” and “illegal drugs and young women were passed around and used.”
Andy Lucchesi, a male model who had helped organize some of these Plaza Hotel parties for Trump, said the following when asked about the age of the women present: “A lot of girls, 14, look 24. That’s as juicy as I can get. I never asked how old they were; I just partook. I did partake in activities that would be controversial, too.” ...