Richard Stanley

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The following hour long video makes even more linkages between all these people and such as Bill Clinton and Donald Trump.

At one point, one of the victims is discussing all the cameras used by Epstein and includes mentioning that pinhole cameras were in all the Victoria's Secret dressing rooms, as I had previously related (in the Trump thread?) that party girls were encouraged to bring their sugar daddies so that they could model the merchandise and then ...

The video clip compilations make such as Alan Dershowitz look pretty bad, as well all the clips of the Chosen People and their attitudes. Some comparitive discussion of Israel in terms of fascism and the Nazis is made, including the apt fact that the Nazis 'ironically' created their own version of the Chosen People.


Another interesting thing to me is how such as Wexner did not insulate himself from Epstein, and the same going for Epstein and Maxwell from the operations. Why did they leave themselves (and the Rothschilds) so exposed? Well, perhaps it is explained if we invoke the Postflavian Shepherd, Sheepdog, and Sheep Model. One just has to properly determine who the Sheepdogs are versus the real Shepherds. If Robert Maxwell was expendable by the Mossad, then certainly Epstein and Grizlane are as well. So far Prince Andrew is untouchable, how about the Rothschilds.
 
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Richard Stanley

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The following Ausy Sky News piece mentions the claim that SDNY US Attorney was fired by Barr (Trump) because of Berman's refusal to back down on Prince Andrew. Then, as mentioned in the first post's video on the thread, Maxwell is arrested in what appears to be a prepared package deal.

Oddly, Sky News is a Murdoch property. And, Maxwell has pleaded innocent, which one would 'ordinarily expect a guilty plea with a pre-arranged deal. I'm betting the plea is just part of the dog and pony show, in this case to make it easier to deny a package deal was in place. It seems that it is being salted around the various media reports is that Epstein's and Maxwell's motives were just mundane greed, ego trips, and pedo obsessions. No need to ponder the massive political leverage involved then, for Israel or any other country's interests. Likely, if the two 'players' hit any of the men up for money it was mostly to provide cover, as the operation had plenty of funds from such as Wexner.

 
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Richard Stanley

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Somehow I missed the following pic of the Trump's with a wigged out Jizz-lane Maxwell at a "Hookers and Pimps" party at supermodel Heidi Klum's. I wonder if these pics is what caused Heidi to be 'sick', taking a temporary break from judging America's Got Talent this season?

Even Randy Andy was in attendance.

I found this in searching for info on an allegation that Mommy Ivana Zelnickova Trump helped recruit young girls for Jizz-Lane, Israeli sex spy. Interesting too, how "Let Them Eat Cake and Find Something New" Ivanka seemed to follow the same Lolita pattern with her orange loverboy Daddy, hero to true Christians everywhere.

No wonder Emperorange (via Barr) is intervening in Maxwell's and the Epstein case.

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Richard Stanley

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Here's the allegation about Ivana and Jizz-lane. This made by independent jouno Whitney Webb:

Whitney Webb, an independent journalist best known for her work trying to expose Jeffrey Epstein’s child sex enterprise, recently made some very explosive allegations in a YouTube interview chief among them, that Trump’s ex wife Ivana trump (Ivanka’s mother) worked with Ghislaine Maxwell to recruit underage school girls in the New York area into Epstein’s child sex operation. This and other explosive allegations in the YouTube interview are based on a phone call Whitney Webb recently had with Maria Farmer, one of Epstein’s victims in the 1990s.

Webb specifically said regarding Ivana Trump(video at 4:40); “When she [Maria Farmer] told the FBI in 1996, she said the Clintons were part of it. She also said Donald Trump was part of it. One of the reasons she said that is because Ivana Trump, she said, was with Ghislaine Maxwell when she would go out to recruit girls for Epstein. It was her [Ghislaine] and Ivana Trump, Trump’s ex wife. They would go out together all the time and pick up these 12 year old girls in school uniforms and braces, exchange information with them and the next day they would be in Epstein’s office. She [Farmer] saw between 5 and 10 different girls every day go into Epstein’s office the whole two years she was there. Every day. This is in the 90s. So much of what we know from the other victims is after 2000. The FBI knew this then and they didn’t act and that’s why all those other victims exist. It’s just disgusting.” ...

https://grassrootsdempolitics.com/i...vana-trump-recruited-schoolgirls-for-epstein/ ...

Webb and this article then go on to discuss more allegations, of which is one claim that Trump and Bill Gates helped fund the Lolita operation with Wexner, but this seems not likely if its really being run by Mossad. On the other hand, Trump and Gates, at least, would make a nice diversion away from Israel.

In any case, it's also interesting that both Gates and Trump are intimately involved in the current pandemic variously (Good Cop and Bad Cop?).
 
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Richard Stanley

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Well here is an interesting twist. The following (written before Maxwell's arrest) proposes that Trump and the CIA are leveraging the Lolita mess against Israel:

The Epstein Pedoscandal Mossad Timeline shows how it was the CIA man Donald Trump who helped Epstein and Ghislaine to create the pedo sex trafficking ring. After all, Epstein’s number 1 girl, Virginia Roberts was literally a Trump girl recruited from Mar-a-Lago by Ghislaine.
However, it was also Trump who seems to have exposed Epstein. Was this not only because Trump wanted leverage over Clintons but also because CIA wanted to have leverage over Mossad?
Perhaps CIA and Trump are at least not yet total slaves to Israel?
Of course there are no good guys in this international game of chess. All the major intelligence agencies – including CIA, MI6 and Mossad – run pedophile rings. Often they even cooperate just like Ghislaine (Mossad), Trump (CIA) and Prince Andrew (MI6) together helped to create Epstein’s pedo sex trafficking ring.
Naturally Ghislaine’s role in all of this has been very important. After all, who has the best connections to the elite of Britain, America, Russia and Israel? Ghislaine, of course. ...


From the above link is this link, for anyone who wants to overdose on Epstein: https://www.unz.com/article/epstein-pedoscandal-mossad-timeline/

But the following is choice:

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This would explain how Donald’s half-Jew son William Barr(J) had such a stellar rise in CIA. At the time in the early 70s he was already not only a junior analyst at CIA but a major player in the intelligence community.
In fact, it might have been the son William who told his father Donald to make sure Epstein would be hired.
In 1973 William Barr was trying to hinder the Church and Pike committees investigation of the CIA.
Later in the 80s and 90s William Barr would be known as the ”Cover-up General” who as Attorney General would stop the investigation of many Iran-Contra criminals and other intelligence assets. He was helped in this by his close friend Robert Mueller who in the early 90s was the Assistant Attorney General for the Criminal Division.
In 2019 Barr would again become the Attorney General and supervise the investigation of Epstein and his girlfriend Ghislaine Maxwell. Together with special counsel Robert Mueller they would cover up Trump’s connections to Epstein, Russian oligarchs and the Israeli interference in the 2016 presidential elections. (See later in the timeline.) ...
 
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Claude Badley

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You realize of course that the the virus causing the infection called Infectious Mononucleosis, a.k.a. the adolescent kissing disease...
Hah!!! Donald Barr, not Donald Trump.
is normally termed the 'Epstein-Barr' virus! :cool:

To me that's nominative determinism, but the evidence apparently shows that the disease existed back in the 19th century.

Yours faithfully
Claude
 

Richard Stanley

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Trump wishes Grizlane well, having only met her a 'few times' at Mar-a-Lago .. NOT. He also said he is not aware of the Prince Andrew situation, despite that he had to fire his Labor Secretary, Acosta, because of Epstein and the Prince Andrew situation.

The report mentions Epstein's former business partner who says that Trump and Grizlane "knew" each other well, though she seems a liddle old for Donny. I'm guessing that Grizlane knew Donny better than he knew her. Rumors also have it that it was via Grizlane and Epstein that Trump met Mel. And, as we've seen, Ivana was occasionally Grizlane's wingman on pedo recruiting trips.

Good thing the evangelicals are down with this. What with all those sins being confessed at the Promise Keepers.

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Richard Stanley

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The interesting Epstein-Musk association. Why would Musk utilize Epstein to recruit anyone .. after Musk's conviction as a pedo, and why would Epstein 'encourage' Musk to make the stock market Tweet that got Musk in trouble?

 

Richard Stanley

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Donald Barr, former CIA pioneer, from the OSS days, and who hired Jeffrey Epstein to be a math teacher at the Dalton School, wrote a book about sex slavery into out space colonies. I'm guessing the impressionable Epstein read it.

It must be comforting to Donald Trump to have William Barr in his employ, especially while Jeffrey was in his final daze.

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Space Relations: A Slightly Gothic Interplanetary Tale is a space opera novel by Donald Barr, the father of current US Attorney General William Barr, originally published on 17 September 1973 by Charterhouse and distributed by McKay, and reprinted by Fawcett Crest Books in February 1975. It is one of only two novels Barr is known to have written, the other being A Planet in Arms.[2]
Plot
In the future, humans have formed an intergalactic empire ruled by aristocrats. During a time of war with the Plith, an empire of ant-like alien bug people, ambassador John Craig, a formerly Liberal Earth man in his 30s, is dispatched to the strategically important planet Kossar, a human colony that was settled by the Carlyle Society as a place of exile for political extremists and now is ruled by an oligarchical high council of seven nobles, each of whom is in charge of a different domain with its own traditions. Their boredom and absolute power have driven them to madness, to the point that Kossar's entry into the empire has been stymied by the Man-Inhabited Planets Treaty's clause (written by Craig) against alliances with slave owning societies, due to its practice of kidnapping humans to become illegal playthings of the galaxy's super-rich.
Craig, who now is campaigning to bring Kossar into the empire, had previously been to the planet when the passenger ship on which he was travelling on a return trip from the Betelgeuse Conference was captured by space pirates. While en route to Kassar, one of the pirates awakened Craig and the other prisoners to rape a 15-year-old virginal redheaded female captive in front of them; the rapist's fellow pirates later hear of this and dock his pay as punishment for spoiling her market value. Craig then spent two years as a slave of the beautiful, sensual, and sadistic Lady Morgan Sidney, the only female member of the oligarchy, with whom he became romantically involved. Together, they lived in her castle, ruling over and engaging in sexual relations with those under their dominion, including an enslaved teenager at a clinic used to breed enslaved people. When Craig stumbles on hints of an alien invasion, he realizes he must escape to save humanity.

In relation to the above, it has been reported that Epstein wanted to keep 20 females at a time pregnant with his own seed at his New Mexico ranch, a theme familiar with Nazis and their Ubermensch project, a branch of eugenics.
 
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Jerry Russell

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The interesting Epstein-Musk association....

The video by Shaun Attwood is mostly reading from an article from Aug. 12, 2019 by James Stewart, published at the NY Times. Stewart says he heard a rumor that Epstein was "advising" Musk. A spokesman for Musk denied the rumor, but Epstein admitted that he had spoken to Saudi Arabian royals about making an investment in Tesla. He also admitted that he had received an email from someone "very close" to Musk, authorizing a talent search. At the time, Musk was in hot water with the SEC because of a tweet falsely claiming that Tesla was about to be taken private. Musk was ultimately replaced by Robyn Denholm as Tesla's chairman of the board.

Furthermore, Stewart noted, Musk was photographed at a party in 2014 with Ghislaine Maxwell standing behind him.

Stewart concluded that "Mr. Epstein had embellished his role in the Tesla situation to enhance his own importance and gain attention...", which strikes me as a rather lazy evasion on Stewart's part. Based on the information provided, it seems that Epstein probably had indeed been attempting to broker a deal on Musk's behalf, to sell his company to the Saudis. When that fell apart, Musk looked to Epstein for damage control, to recruit a new Tesla chairman who would be suitably compliant and easily blackmailed.

Shaun Attwood also mentions that he's been reading "Dead Men Tell No Tales" by Dylan Howard. He says that this book connects Epstein to the Towers Financial scandal, Adnan Khashoggi, Richard Maxwell (Ghislaine's father) and the Iran-Contra affair.
 
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Richard Stanley

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Attwood also has his own book, American Made, about who killed legendary drug and arms smuggler, Barry Seal. Pablo Escobar or George HW Bush? In this book Atwood also links Poppy Bush to the wider pedo ring that included Catholic Boy's Town, the source of Jeff Gannon who was Bush 43's White House frequent 'visitor'. Barry Seal used to fly in and out of the airport at Mena, AR while Clinton was governor then, and Clinton was linked into the same financing network as the Bushes, as well as cocaine which attention was refocused onto Clinton's lil brother.

BTW, Gates' mother is a Maxwell, but nobody has connected them that I know of. Maybe we need Seeker for this?
 
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Claude Badley

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How pig ignorant I am...
BTW, Gates' mother is a Maxwell, but nobody has connected them that I know of. Maybe we need Seeker for this?
...as I didn't know that, though I do know that Grizly's father was Robert Maxwell, the Zionist media tycoon!

Yours embarrassedly
Claude
 

Richard Stanley

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Speaking of Barry Seal, I have mentioned elsewhere on the forum that Daniel Hopsicker, author of Barry and the Boys, has a picture of young Barry standing with his age peer, Lee Harvey Oswald and their Civil Air Patrol mentor, David Ferrie, also of JFK assassination fame. As well, there is a picture of Poppy Bush sitting with a CIA assassination squad at a fancy restaurant in Mexico City.
 

Seeker

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Richard, you rang? 776


though I do know that Grizly's father was Robert Maxwell, the Zionist media tycoon!
Claude is correct.

BTW, Gates' mother is a Maxwell, but nobody has connected them that I know of. Maybe we need Seeker for this?
Yes, she is an American Maxwell from Seattle, while Robert Maxwell was born to a poor Orthodox Jewish family as Jan Ludvik Hyman Binyamin Hoch in Slatinske Doly, Czechoslovakia (now Solotvyno, Ukraine).

Transcript of deed of change of his name to Ian Robert Maxwell in 1948, after he became a naturalised British subject in 1946:

"NOTICE is hereby given that IAN ROBERT MAXWELL of 18 Stanhope Gardens, London, S W 7, M C Company Director a naturalised British subject lately called Ludvick Hoch, otherwise Robert Maxwell has assumed and intends henceforth upon all occasions and at all times to sign and use and to be called and known by the name of Ian Robert Maxwell in lieu of and in substitution for his former name of Ludvik Hoch, otherwise Robert Maxwell and that such change of name is formally declared and evidenced by a deed under his hand and seal dated the 30th day of June 1948 duly executed and attested and enrolled in the Central Office of the Supreme Court of Judicature on the 7th day of July 1948 — Dated this 8th day of July 1948"
 

Richard Stanley

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Yes, she is an American Maxwell from Seattle
You mean a native American Indian Maxwell?

Interesting that Robert was from Czechoslovakia, where Ivana (Zelinsky) Trump is from. And Ivana and Ghislaine supposedly recruited Epstein girls together for a while.
 

Richard Stanley

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Are the Clinton's getting thrown under the bus, too close to the Epstein toilet?

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Now the celebrity tabloid OK! Magazine is reporting that ex-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton “gifted” Maxwell’s nephew, Alexander Djerassi, a position within her department when he was just out of college and gave him “special treatment.”
A State Department spokesperson told The Daily Beast that Djerassi served as a “Staff Assistant” from May 2009 to June 2012. The Daily Beast could not confirm whether the role was in fact “gifted” by Clinton. ...
 
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