Drone footage fema camp fence to keep people in not out ?

lorenhough

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Is this the future? See something say something? Santa is watching ? Why build them if they never use them.. ?..
Why trains ? 1984?
 

lorenhough

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Debunkers say that this is an Amtrak maintenance depot.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a12805/4312850/

I don't consider Popular Mechanics a 'Reliable Source' so I'm not making any claims here about what's really going on. And I'm not meaning to downplay the very real evidence that FEMA does have camps ready to go.
Hi jerry if you look at footage you will see the top of fence turned inward to keep people in... Why would a train station do that? You would think a fence would be to keep people off the tracks away from trains yes?

popular Mechanics debinked 9-11. Not sure with what you said why you would post anything ...no claims don't consider? Mmmm? Wish you would have sared your real evidence.


Wikipedia
FEMA camps conspiracy theory
The FEMA camps theory refers to the theory that the U.S Federal Emergency Management Agency(FEMA) is planning to imprison US citizens in concentration camps.[1][2][3] This is typically described as following the imposition of martial law in the United States after a major disaster or crisis. In some versions of the theory, only suspected dissidents will be imprisoned. In more extreme versions, large numbers of US citizens will be imprisoned for the purposes of extermination as a New World Order is established. The FEMA camps conspiracy theory has existed since the 1980s but it has picked up greatly in popularity since the late 2000s.[4]


Arguments and variantsEdit

FEMA was established in 1979 under executive order by President Jimmy Carter. It was established to coordinate the response to a major disaster that has occurred in the United States and that overwhelms local and state authorities. However, proponents of the conspiracy theory argue that this is merely a cover for the organisation’s real purpose. This is to assume control of the United States following a major disaster or threat, either a genuine one or a manufactured one. Once a disaster or threat of one comes into being, the theory goes, martial law will be declared and FEMA’s emergency powers will come into operation. FEMA will then effectively be the government.[5] The constitution will be suspended and FEMA will move US citizens into specially constructed camps, many of which have already been built.[6] The organisation has been described in this context as ‘the executive arm of the coming police state’.[7] Proponents of the theory often play into racialfears, asserting that FEMA will use ‘urban gangs’ as auxiliaries to ensure order.[8]

In many versions of the theory, ‘dissidents’ (typically defined as constitutionalists/patriots etc. rather than left-wingers) will merely be imprisoned.[9] Others have gone so far as to argue that they will be sent to these camps to be murdered.[10]Extreme versions of the theory state that plans are in place to imprison and kill apolitical American citizens in FEMA camps are part of a ‘population control’ plot.[11] FEMA conspiracies are often worked in larger conspiracy narratives about ushering in a ‘New World Order’, meaning a totalitarian global government.[12]

As evidence of the conspiracy theory, proponents point to supposed FEMA camps already existing in the United States. These, however, often have known, established purposes such as Amtrak facilities and Armed Forces training centers.[13] In some cases, genuine internment camps have been pointed to but these have always been outside the United States.[14]

They have also cited a contingency plan (Rex 84) drafted in part by Oliver North calling for the suspension of the Constitution and the detainment of citizens in the event of a national crisis.[15] This was aimed at left-wing activists, not the Patriot types generally associated with FEMA theories.[16] This has been linked to a 1970 document by then-FEMA director Louis Guiffridacalling for the establishment of martial law in the event of an uprising by African American militants and the internment of millions of African Americans.[17]

Conspiracy theorists have used the actual internment of Japanese Americans during World War II in specifically constructed camps as evidence that such a scenario at least has historic precedent.[18] Similarly, the forced removal of Native Americansfrom their lands throughout US history has been pointed to.


History

One of the first known references to FEMA concentration camps comes from a newsletter issued by Posse Comitatus in 1982, with the warning that ‘hardcore Patriots’ were to be detained in them.[19] The prevalence of the conspiracy increased in line with the rise of the militia movement in the 1990s.[20] A supposed FEMA camp was featured in Linda Thompson’sinfluential film America Under Siege (in reality, the ‘FEMA camp’ was an Amtrak repair facility). Following the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing the conspiracy theory was discussed by the Senate Judiciary Subcommittee on Domestic Terrorism.[21] The theory’s inclusion in the plot of the 1998 X-Files movie showed its growing reach.[22]
 
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lorenhough

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Hi jerry if you look at footage you will see the top of fence turned inward to keep people in... Why would a train station do that? You would think a fence would be to keep people off the tracks away from trains yes?

popular Mechanics debinked 9-11. Not sure with what you said why you would post anything ...no claims don't consider? Mmmm? Wish you would have sared your real evidence.


Wikipedia
FEMA camps conspiracy theory
The FEMA camps theory refers to the theory that the U.S Federal Emergency Management Agency(FEMA) is planning to imprison US citizens in concentration camps.[1][2][3] This is typically described as following the imposition of martial law in the United States after a major disaster or crisis. In some versions of the theory, only suspected dissidents will be imprisoned. In more extreme versions, large numbers of US citizens will be imprisoned for the purposes of extermination as a New World Order is established. The FEMA camps conspiracy theory has existed since the 1980s but it has picked up greatly in popularity since the late 2000s.[4]


Arguments and variantsEdit

FEMA was established in 1979 under executive order by President Jimmy Carter. It was established to coordinate the response to a major disaster that has occurred in the United States and that overwhelms local and state authorities. However, proponents of the conspiracy theory argue that this is merely a cover for the organisation’s real purpose. This is to assume control of the United States following a major disaster or threat, either a genuine one or a manufactured one. Once a disaster or threat of one comes into being, the theory goes, martial law will be declared and FEMA’s emergency powers will come into operation. FEMA will then effectively be the government.[5] The constitution will be suspended and FEMA will move US citizens into specially constructed camps, many of which have already been built.[6] The organisation has been described in this context as ‘the executive arm of the coming police state’.[7] Proponents of the theory often play into racialfears, asserting that FEMA will use ‘urban gangs’ as auxiliaries to ensure order.[8]

In many versions of the theory, ‘dissidents’ (typically defined as constitutionalists/patriots etc. rather than left-wingers) will merely be imprisoned.[9] Others have gone so far as to argue that they will be sent to these camps to be murdered.[10]Extreme versions of the theory state that plans are in place to imprison and kill apolitical American citizens in FEMA camps are part of a ‘population control’ plot.[11] FEMA conspiracies are often worked in larger conspiracy narratives about ushering in a ‘New World Order’, meaning a totalitarian global government.[12]

As evidence of the conspiracy theory, proponents point to supposed FEMA camps already existing in the United States. These, however, often have known, established purposes such as Amtrak facilities and Armed Forces training centers.[13] In some cases, genuine internment camps have been pointed to but these have always been outside the United States.[14]

They have also cited a contingency plan (Rex 84) drafted in part by Oliver North calling for the suspension of the Constitution and the detainment of citizens in the event of a national crisis.[15] This was aimed at left-wing activists, not the Patriot types generally associated with FEMA theories.[16] This has been linked to a 1970 document by then-FEMA director Louis Guiffridacalling for the establishment of martial law in the event of an uprising by African American militants and the internment of millions of African Americans.[17]

Conspiracy theorists have used the actual internment of Japanese Americans during World War II in specifically constructed camps as evidence that such a scenario at least has historic precedent.[18] Similarly, the forced removal of Native Americansfrom their lands throughout US history has been pointed to.


History

One of the first known references to FEMA concentration camps comes from a newsletter issued by Posse Comitatus in 1982, with the warning that ‘hardcore Patriots’ were to be detained in them.[19] The prevalence of the conspiracy increased in line with the rise of the militia movement in the 1990s.[20] A supposed FEMA camp was featured in Linda Thompson’sinfluential film America Under Siege (in reality, the ‘FEMA camp’ was an Amtrak repair facility). Following the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing the conspiracy theory was discussed by the Senate Judiciary Subcommittee on Domestic Terrorism.[21] The theory’s inclusion in the plot of the 1998 X-Files movie showed its growing reach.[22]

 

Jerry Russell

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Hi Loren,

Hi jerry if you look at footage you will see the top of fence turned inward to keep people in... Why would a train station do that? You would think a fence would be to keep people off the tracks away from trains yes?
Maybe they don't want people trying to steal stuff from the trains?
 

Richard Stanley

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Jerry, this is a clear instance of Fear Porn, based upon less than dubious evidence.

Loren's "train station" is not a train station, it is an old train car maintenance yard, which Amtrak purchased from another railroad. If one looks at the available maps and such (see at bottom) one can see all of the branching lines to feed cars into the facility. Who knows why the barbed wire is pointed in, but there are no guard towers either.

The Barstow facility is a well known USMC logistics base. Even the video showed this. Wait a minute. OMG, they're putting it across the street from a Wal-Mart. OK, I retract everything I've just said. Obviously, FEMA would want the prisoners to be able to conveniently be able to obtain inexpensive snacks and such before they are humanely put down.

So the Amtrak rail cars at the "train station" must merely be a cover. OMG [Sarcasm off]

About ten years ago, I investigated one of these sites, and it turned out to be a pumping station for the California Aquaduct.

This is not to say that I know that FEMA might not have a nefarious agenda, it certainly performed poorly with regard to Katrina. But, it is one thing to legitimately follow Jefferson's refrain for revolution when evidence presents itself, but this is not it.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/39%C2%B043'11.0%22N+86%C2%B004'40.0%22W/@39.719722,-86.077778,15z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x0!8m2!3d39.719722!4d-86.077778?hl=en
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lorenhough

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Jerry, this is a clear instance of Fear Porn, based upon less than dubious evidence.

Loren's "train station" is not a train station, it is an old train car maintenance yard, which Amtrak purchased from another railroad. If one looks at the available maps and such (see at bottom) one can see all of the branching lines to feed cars into the facility. Who knows why the barbed wire is pointed in, but there are no guard towers either.

The Barstow facility is a well known USMC logistics base. Even the video showed this. Wait a minute. OMG, they're putting it across the street from a Wal-Mart. OK, I retract everything I've just said. Obviously, FEMA would want the prisoners to be able to conveniently be able to obtain inexpensive snacks and such before they are humanely put down.

So the Amtrak rail cars at the "train station" must merely be a cover. OMG [Sarcasm off]

About ten years ago, I investigated one of these sites, and it turned out to be a pumping station for the California Aquaduct.

This is not to say that I know that FEMA might not have a nefarious agenda, it certainly performed poorly with regard to Katrina. But, it is one thing to legitimately follow Jefferson's refrain for revolution when evidence presents itself, but this is not it.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/39%C2%B043'11.0%22N+86%C2%B004'40.0%22W/@39.719722,-86.077778,15z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x0!8m2!3d39.719722!4d-86.077778?hl=en
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hope I am wrong about fema camps all I am saying now is to keep a eye open for more info I am not the 1st one to worry as in the boer war gov. can and do Put People in camps
Boer War begins in South Africa - Oct 11, 1899 - History.com
yes facts can be fearfull
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lorenhough

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greetings
can fema camps be here in usa ? I don't know for sure. but I do know what the big boys did to the American Indians and to the Japanese during ww2. yes ?? and they have more People in jail here working for all most nothing then any were in the world.. mostly for drugs Pot etc.
 
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