Chabad Lubavitch

[Collectivist]

Now that we have established Chabad is in control of the White House via Kushner, we must gauge whether Putin is also controlled by Chabad through his controller Berel Lazar.
I hope I am wrong about Putin but his decision to deploy warships reinforces my concerns from years ago, that he is playing the role of good cop to the west's bad cop.

Putin Responds: Syria Strikes "Cripple US-Russia Relations"; Deploys Missile Warship To Syria

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-07/putin-responds-syria-strikes-cripple-us-russia-relations-deploys-cruise-missile-frig

Once you understand the narrative that Chabad is the biggest threat to mankind, these events are very predictable and the main players easy to see.

The narrative is that "international law" and "UN" involvement is crucial to bring order to a world threatened by rogue nation states such as USA. Let us hope that Trump is not made to play the role of Hitler and falsely pervert the ideas of nationalism and capitalism into something it is not.

The truth is globalism is the great threat but propaganda has the power to turn everything upside down ...

 

[Jerry Russell]

Now that we have established Chabad is in control of the White House via Kushner,

What we have established here, is that Collectivist does not answer questions, and is not interested in dialog.

I'm letting the posts stand because the information does contribute to an understanding of the situation, although we don't interpret it in the same way Collectivist does.

We discussed the situation with Kushner and Bannon on our podcast, and on this thread:

http://postflaviana.org/community/index.php?threads/april-7-getting-organized.2057/

 

[Collectivist]

I just listened to the full podcast and I must say I get the sense that you and Joe are very confused about what comes next. It is a shame you did not bring forward my main argument that Chabad is a death cult with the goal to bring about a man made apocalypse.

His idea of branding "Chabad" is one I have also discussed but originating from Sabbatei Zvi, not freemasonry. This explains the spirit cooking and the rest of it as well if we understand the path taken by these religious fruitcakes is to turn everything upside down -- to hasten his return ... As I explained earlier, when the world is outright wicked or righteous, his arrival is imminent as prophesied in the Talmud.

Joe Atwill, for all his attempts at finding truth is off the mark when he says it is in nobody's interest to see this escalation reach a destructive climax. I wish you responded with my assertion that the end goal of this messianic death cults IS apocalypse, and they are right on track ...

Again Jerry, you are not appreciating the seriousness of the events now transpiring in front of our very eyes. Exposing Chabad is critical but we are running out of time

 

[Jerry Russell]

I just listened to the full podcast and I must say I get the sense that you and Joe are very confused about what comes next.

Oh my, thank you for listening. I honestly didn't realize that you cared enough to do that.

I myself shy away from making predictions, especially about the future. If that makes me sound confused, so be it.

Truly believing fundamentalists (Jewish, Christian and Islamic alike) do have a different view of their own self-interest, as compared to secular humanists or even mainstream religionists. That is, they see themselves belonging to a realm beyond this world. If they are consistent with their proclaimed beliefs, they would be left with a strange indifference to the prospect that the earth could be transformed into a lifeless radioactive cinder. They could theoretically be indifferent even to their own deaths.

It's my respectful opinion, however, that at least some of the elites at the top of this pyramid are too smart to believe the fundamentalist nonsense that they promote to their underlings. One can only hope that they're also smart enough not to put too much trust in their own bunkers.

And furthermore, Richard's analysis suggests that the true meaning of the "apocalypse" is the arrival of the globalist one-world government, or at least the conclusion of another cyclical episode leading towards that end.

With Joe's opening jokes about his broadcast from his lair 500 feet beneath the ground, I think he's more concerned than he's willing to admit.

 

[Collectivist]

And furthermore, Richard's analysis suggests that the true meaning of the "apocalypse" is the arrival of the globalist one-world government, or at least the conclusion of another cyclical episode leading towards that end.

That may be so, however we cannot be sure whether the elites inmates have taken over the asylum either. Some suggest the narrative is explicitly articulated by the priest class and played out by their adherents. As Netanyahu so obediently responds ... "we are doing ... we are doing"

Hassidic Rabbi: War of Gog and Magog Already Began in Syria

https://www.breakingisraelnews.com/50649/hassidic-rabbi-reveals-god-sweetened-judgementon-israel-by-moving-war-gog-magog-syria-jewish-world/#SPcphu1r0EydgduZ.97

 

[Rev17]

Again Jerry, you are not appreciating the seriousness of the events now transpiring in front of our very eyes. Exposing Chabad is critical but we are running out of time ..Collectivist

I agree, you are 100% correct .. what is actually going on is the fulfillment of Esau's prophetic blessing ..

38And Esau said unto his father, Hast thou but one blessing, my father? bless me, even me also, O my father. And Esau lifted up his voice, and wept.

39And Isaac his father answered and said unto him, Behold, thy dwelling shall be the fatness of the earth, and of the dew of heaven from above;

40And by thy sword shalt thou live, and shalt serve thy brother; and it shall come to pass when thou shalt have the dominion, that thou shalt break his yoke from off thy neck. Genesis 27

Bannon is a Christian Dominionist .. Kushner is a Chabad Dominionist .. both have the same Edomite agenda

The greatest hindrance to truth is the assumption you already have it

 

[Collectivist]

The Kabbalists, through Chabad and their agents, are doing what they can to push their end times script. In a strange twist, two of their most important agents, Putin and Trump are now being openly discussed, in true predictive programming style, the roles in this great stage performance ..

For those who are not familiar with the script, you need only refer to Chabad's own website for a refresher:

http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/101747/jewish/Appendix-II.htm

Any guess who will fill the roles of the two redeemers?

 

[Jerry Russell]

Hello Collectivist,

Could you help us distinguish between a Kabbalist end time script, and an Evangelical Christian end times script? I find them quite similar. The Christians in the above video admit to a fascination with rabbinical views of end times prophecy, and they seem to share a goal of seeing the Temple re-built in Jerusalem.

The video is from late 2016. I wonder if these commentators have seen any more recent signs of the unfolding scenario they expect.

 

[Richard Stanley]

It's a miracle, I might agree with Collectivist about something. However, I'm going to withhold full commentary till I watch the video and read the link.

That said, if the script timing of Revelation, already in process, is correct (with even Pope Francis playing a part) then Trump can only be a Beast (an Antichrist - for which he is most certainly morally fit), and here I say the Beast of the Sea. Perhaps Putin is then the Beast of the Land, but in any case, there is still much to be accomplished, such as the rebuilding of the (second) Third Temple, so that the Christian followers of the (second) Second Coming can destroy it, on a millennial clock basis in 2070 CE.

And I'm sorry that Rev 17's comment escaped my attention:

Collectivist

I agree, you are 100% correct .. what is actually going on is the fulfillment of Esau's prophetic blessing ..

I believe that Esau regained his Abrahamic inheritance the last time around (during the Preterist End Times), with the collaboration of the Herodians (Esau - aka Idumaeans) with the Romans (whom the Talmud also claims was 'Esau'). Thus Esau and Ephraim (including Josephus's Hasmonean Maccabees (not of Judah) collaborated, using lesser 'Jews', as their Suffering Servants and foils (nationalists).

 

[Collectivist]

I am not sure the slight differences between scripts is what is key here. In fact, this script comes in many versions to cater to ALL walks of life so that it will be accepted by all. I wrote about this awhile back on postflaviana but cannot find where. How the mystics will manage to pull it off I am unsure, but I sense the NEED to bring forth a collective narrative that will UNITE all to a one world government and religion. Of course that will probably be impossible for the die-hard messianic adherents of Islam, Christianity and Judaism and so these fundamentalists will most likely be persuaded to return to the promise land in anticipation of their new messiah.

As I stated years ago, the most likely scenario is the destruction of the holy land itself as this was but a stepping stone to global governance and total control. It is most likely these victims will be symbolic of the next holocaust (sacrifice by way of fire) that the powers that be can end up milking just as they did the last one via collective guilt over horrors the Zionists themselves orchestrated.

hol·o·caust
ˈhäləˌkôst,ˈhōləˌkôst/
noun

1. 1.
   destruction or slaughter on a mass scale, especially caused by fire or nuclear war.
   "a nuclear holocaust"
   synonyms: cataclysm, disaster, catastrophe;
2. 2.
   historical
   a Jewish sacrificial offering that is burned completely on an altar.

In fact the story is retold over and over in hollywood, as this interesting documentary demonstrates

 

[Richard Stanley]

I am not sure the slight differences between scripts is what is key here. In fact, this script comes in many versions to cater to ALL walks of life so that it will be accepted by all.

Well, yes, this is the advantage of writing in such a cryptic fashion. It can be interpreted so may different ways.

In any case, what is your opinion, then, of the September 23, 2017 alignment with baby Jupiter in Virgo (with two retrograde movements for about 9 months)? This is rather highly specific as for timing, and I checked that it has not been even so close in the last 2,000 years.

The Woman and the Dragon
1And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars: 2And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered. 3And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. 4And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born. (Revelation 12, KJV)​

How the mystics will manage to pull it off I am unsure, but I sense the NEED to bring forth a collective narrative that will UNITE all to a one world government and religion.

Mystics? Or pretend mystics?

Need? Or desire? I have posted elsewhere that there are 120 globalist assertions in the OT and 80 in the NT.

Of course that will probably be impossible for the die-hard messianic adherents of Islam, Christianity and Judaism and so these fundamentalists will most likely be persuaded to return to the promise land in anticipation of their new messiah.

Generally yes, but I think these new Zealots are scripted for globalist termination wherever they are. And besides there is a new Bottomless Pit in NYC.

The Mormons believe the New Jerusalem (New Zion) is in Utah, and that the new savior will enter their temple through the special golden door (the Golden Gate that Jesus entered the Temple Mount through) on the eastern side of the building.

The Roman Catholic Church is saying the new savior, born from the virgin in heaven, will indeed come from outer space. John Paul II said he had no objection to Globalism, as long as it was done a certain way. Depending on what he specifically meant by that, I actually wouldn't object, with my main caveat being in prohibiting the type of scamming people that have run the show for the last few thousand years (including the Clintons, Trumps, Bushes, etc.).

It is most likely these victims will be symbolic of the next holocaust (sacrifice by way of fire) that the powers that be can end up milking just as they did the last one via collective guilt over horrors the Zionists themselves orchestrated.

I generally agree, the Holocaust delivered us modern Israel, which is necessary to 'reveal' the script redux from 2,000 years before.

The very first holocaust in the Bible is that of Abraham and Isaac .... no wait ... the poor little ram stuck in the thicket. I recently got in an argument with Michael Wagner where he said that God, in this story, DID NOT know that Abraham would try to sacrifice his son or not, only to later tell me that God does indeed know the future. I reasonable reading of the story is that this literary construction had a political purpose, as with the renaming of Jacob to Israel. It's all synthetic.

 

[Jerry Russell]

A transcript for the "Hollywood Insiders: Full Disclosure" documentary is at this link:

http://ricintoxin81.tripod.com/fullscript.html

The filmmaker, Michael Wynn, says that Rudyard Kipling's "The Man Who Would Be King" is a Masonic representation of an antichrist scenario. He finds similar themes in the films "Stargate", "The Road to El Dorado", "Dogma", elements of "Star Wars", and an episode from "The Simpsons".

In the analysis of "Star Wars", Wynn makes the interesting claim that Darth Vader is a Christ figure. This is very interesting from the Flavian Origins perspective, as Vader also seems to share some things in common with Titus. The "Star Wars" segment starts around 16:20.

Quote:

Jesus Christ also makes an appearance in starwars as Anakin skywalker, aka Darth Vader. Darth Vader, the infamous villain from starwars, was originally named Anakin Skywalker and his life bares many similarities to the life of Jesus Christ.

Was immaculately conceived

Declared the chosen one

Prophesied to come

Powerful magical abilities

Rejected by temple leaders just like Jesus was

Wants to preserve life using his magical abilities

Storms a temple just like Jesus did

"if not with, than against him" just as Jesus said.

And becomes the leader of a large army​

And I'm sure it's just a coincidence that the lady George Lucas chose to play Vader's mother, a Swedish actress named Pernilla August, also played as Mary in the made for TV movie, Mary, mother of Jesus in 1999. the very same year she first appeared in Star wars.​

The remainder of the documentary covers Egyptian symbolism in several more films.

 

[Collectivist]

In any case, what is your opinion, then, of the September 23, 2017 alignment with baby Jupiter in Virgo (with two retrograde movements for about 9 months)? This is rather highly specific as for timing, and I checked that it has not been even so close in the last 2,000 years.

I would say it is right up there with Sam Harris interpretation of Hawaiian culinary arts.

 

[Richard Stanley]

So you seem to agree that there is a script being followed, by some party or parties, but its not timed to something so specific, despite that the Bible and such is chock full of celestial references? Is that correct?

 

[Richard Stanley]

And how ironic is it that you insist that faux mystics, using such as the Kabbala are committing all sorts of evil against us, supernatural or not, yet you'll deny that September 23, 2017 isn't an impressive time marker, if nothing else. Probably the same thing for the overhead alignment hidden by the daytime Sun on 9/11/2001. Apparently you don't really believe mystics, faux or not, are employing such ritual aspects, ... or what? Or, are you cherry picking C?

 

[Collectivist]

Cherry picking is one way of looking at it, I prefer it an exercise in separating the wheat from the chaff. Perhaps you are intelligent enough to weave together a compelling story, for those who are less so, that is compelling
enough to be believed. I won't drink your Kool-aid.

If you are unable to see the role Kabbalists have in socially engineering all aspects of life, it isn't because of my lack of trying. The occult is running the show in both Putin's Russia and Trump's US through Chabad handlers. That is my narrative and I will stick to it

But please enlighten us, how is Bannon running the show as a Jesuit infiltrator again?

 

[Jerry Russell]

Cherry picking is one way of looking at it, I prefer it an exercise in separating the wheat from the chaff.

So here you are saying that the Kabbala is the wheat, and the New Testament is the chaff? But I asked you above, how to tell the difference between Kabbalist end times prophecies and NT prophecies, and you said "I am not sure the slight differences between scripts is what is key here."

Perhaps you are intelligent enough to weave together a compelling story, for those who are less so, that is compelling enough to be believed. I won't drink your Kool-aid.

Is it really necessary to insult Rick by claiming that his material is targeted at less intelligent people, or that he is packaging "Kool Aid" (drawing an analogy to Jonestown)? Who do you think you're impressing with arguments like this?

But please enlighten us, how is Bannon running the show as a Jesuit infiltrator again?

When did anyone here say Bannon is running the show, or that as a Jesuit he needs to be an infiltrator? Trump also took training at Catholic institutions. If anyone is infiltrating the Trump administration from an initially external position, it would be the Kabbalists.

But we are the ones who are continually arguing that the Jesuits and Kabbalists are joined at the hip, so that the attempt to distinguish between the two is ultimately futile.

 

[Collectivist]

Jerry,

To demonstrate how these stories can be "seeded" into the minds of the initiated primarily, but others also, consider the analysis of a recent Jägermeister commercial ...

... and connect it with the tattoos of a couple of band members who performed in las vegas at the time of the massacre in October 1st, 2017.

http://www.savingcountrymusic.com/jason-aldean-luke-bryan-get-matching-product-tattoos/

Do you see how a powerful narrative can be brought forward? No? OK then ... compare the tattoo on Jason Aldean's left arm and the illuminati Las Vegas card ...

How is that for timing symbollism? What I have stated to this forum is that these are examples of seeding ideas into the minds of the deceived. By lending credence to such nonsense is to empower these god-men which is what they crave

Control over your mind

 

[Jerry Russell]

When did anyone here say Bannon is running the show,

Actually I guess Rick was speaking about "President Bannon" at one point. But if it wasn't clear then, it seems clearer now that Bannon is just a part of a team.

The Woman and the Dragon
1And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars: 2And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered. 3And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. 4And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born. (Revelation 12, KJV)

Reviewing Rick's analysis in comparison to the skepticism expressed at this Christian site:

https://creation.com/world-end-23-september-2017

Based on the context, I wouldn't contest that this is supposed to be an astrological reference. Also, Virgo is the only constellation of the Zodiac that could be construed as a woman. So, I'm inclined to reject the Christian author's radical skepticism that an astrological interpretation is "a denial of the sufficiency of scripture."

"Clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet" specifies particular locations of the Sun and Moon within Virgo. This seems clear enough.

"On her head a crown of twelve stars". The constellation Leo with (traditionally) nine stars is always at Virgo's head. Wouldn't any combination of three planets in Leo meet this criteria? It doesn't have to be Mercury, Mars and Venus, right?

"Being with child": why does this necessarily refer to Jupiter? Could any other planet represent a child?

"behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns": Who is this dragon, and what are the seven heads and seven crowns and ten horns?

"And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth": Richard noted that the moon obscured Mercury, Mars and Venus on 9/23/17. But how do those three planets constitute a third part of the stars?

Where is there anything in Revelation that says anything about the Golden Gate?

 

[Jerry Russell]

By adding credence to such nonsense is to empower these god-men which is what they crave

I do not understand what you mean by "adding credence".