Bob Dylan & Who's grateful you're a deadhead? Alan Watt creation of world culture for world control

lorenhough

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https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/cutting-through-matrix-alan/id154490096?mt=2&i=332910618

To those with ears that can hear;
Alan Watt "Cutting Through The Matrix" Live on RBN Republic Broadcasting ....u will hear
Evidence Bob Dylan did not write his own songs. How he created electric guitar movement.
The inside story on how bands are created. The culture creators the hit makers, emulating the stars, lying up and selection, Who is writing those songs? Directing culture for world control! Understanding Plato.

decoding- 'The Tempest' has also influenced songs written in the folk and hippie traditions: for example;

versions of "Full Fathom Five" were recorded by Marianne Faithfull for Come My Way in 1965 and by Pete Seeger for Dangerous Songs!? in 1966.[80]

The Decemberists' song "The Island: Come and See/The Landlord's Daughter (burning man)/You'll Not Feel The Drowning" is thought by many to be based on the story of Caliban and Miranda. Michael Nyman's Ariel Songs are taken from his score for the film Prospero's Books.

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There is a long history of enthusiastic speculation on the name's origin or derivation.

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Laurel Canyon, CIA and drug experiments, drugs & promiscuity. Destruction of the family unit! Creation of world culture, Hollywood movies, Mick Jagger, Beatnik & atonal jazz. The male image change over. The Reese commission and the blending of Russia and United States, music from the top down and the destruction of religion. (I believe starting in Russia 100 years ago.lh)

The funding of radical clubs, The creation of apathy, nihilism, narcissism, The department of culture in every country. And the projection of the future.

Cutting through the matrix Alan watt. Famous Musician from Scotland England who used to play with dozens of bands like the Eagles etc.

i've listened to six years of Alen's broadcasts in one year; I do really recommend his stuff he's right on and agrees with Joe 100%.

LH.
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  • Jan E at g media and I have been trying to get alen on his show. I think Alan would love your book, I would help pay for the book and shipping if you sent one book to him (caesar's messiah ) and invited him to be on your podcast. Which he is been doing more of lately, willing to be interviewed, etc . Also Alan has some really good books on understanding the big boys typology in symbols etc. thx
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lorenhough

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https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/cutting-through-matrix-alan/id154490096?mt=2&i=332910618

To those with ears that can hear;

Evidence Bob Dylan did not write his own songs. How he created electric guitar movement.
The inside story on how bands are created. The culture creators the hit makers, emulating the stars, lying up and selection, Who is writing those songs? Direct and culture for world control! Understanding Plato.

Laurel Canyon, CIA and drug experiments, drugs & promiscuity. Destruction of the family unit! Creation of world culture, Hollywood movies, Mick Jagger, Beatnik & atonal jazz. The male image change over. The Reese commission and the blending of Russia and United States, music from the top down and the destruction of religion. (I believe starting in Russia 100 years ago.lh)

The funding of radical clubs, The creation of apathy, nihilism, narcissism, The department of culture in every country. And the projection of the future.

Cutting through the matrix Alan watt. Famous Musician from Scotland England who used to play with dozens of bands like the Eagles etc.

i've listened to all Alen's broadcasts for the last six years within The last year I do really recommend his stuff he's right on and agrees with Joe 100%.

LH.
  • Joe. Jan E and I have been trying to get alen on his show. I think Alan would love your book, I would help pay for the book and shipping if you sent one book to him (caesar's messiah ) and invited him to be on your podcast. Which he is been doing more of lately, willing to be interviewed, etc . Also Alan has some really good books on understanding the big boys typology in symbols etc. thx
  • Loren
I was the one the made this happen; called rainbow sprit, cost was $250,000 we gave away for free 75,000 video tapes that went to many counties for also for 'free'; you can see me sitting on the ground in white. the lighting crew had worked on the movie 'easy rider 'etc.; as you can see I was one of them till joe and jan opened my eyes. I was called 'joy' the rainbow Buddha. one of my rainbow friends started corp. express and sold it for 50 million $ and then bought 'real goods' I asked him for the$; now I have to ask who was he really? most here are good people doing the best they can with the world they were given. within a few w years one could hear these song being song everywhere there were hippies like south America etc. a young man said he to me he was going to a organic farmer but after watching this he want to be just play music just the people he saw; my point is this stuff does affect ya. no problem to y a farmer or what ever.

these were the rich the smart organic beautiful hippies u don't see unless u know were to look ="
" some of the mics are behind the table & drum I made to be the sun and I arranged the flowers; in-joy
 
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lorenhough

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s I was the one the made this happen; called rainbow sprit, cost was $250,000 we gave away for free 75,000 video tapes that went to many counties for also for 'free'; you can see me sitting on the ground in white. the lighting crew had worked on the movie 'easy rider 'etc.; as you can see I was one of them till joe and jan opened my eyes. I was called 'joy' the rainbow Buddha. one of my rainbow friends started corp. express and sold it for 50 million $ and then bought 'real goods' I asked him for the$; now I have to ask who was he really? most here are good people doing the best they can with the world they were given. within a few w years one could hear these song being song everywhere there were hippies like south America etc. a young man said he to me he was going to a organic farmer but after watching this he want to be just play music just the people he saw; my point is this stuff does affect ya. no problem to y a farmer or what ever.

these were the rich the smart organic beautiful hippies u don't see unless u know were to look ="
" some of the mics are behind the table & drum I made to be the sun and I arranged the flowers; in-joy
The great full dead we're called the warlocks, they were deceiving us. As they are members of the bohemian club.. Etc. ï

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Hi Loren,

The video shows how fragile culture is. A few cleverly placed destructive ideas and we sing 'We Are One' as we head for a slave state.

Joe
 

lorenhough

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Hi Loren,

The video shows how fragile culture is. A few cleverly placed destructive ideas and we sing 'We Are One' as we head for a slave state.

Joe
hi Joe,
good stuff joe! thanks so much for your hard work. you have taught me so much about the new age hippy movement, that I was so deeply in.
here is Joes new show with Jan on the grateful dead .. who is grate full your dead or you are a dead head? its black humor if you understand where it is all coming from, and where it is leading you.
Loren

 
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lorenhough

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s I was the one the made this happen; called rainbow sprit, cost was $250,000 we gave away for free 75,000 video tapes that went to many counties for also for 'free'; you can see me sitting on the ground in white. the lighting crew had worked on the movie 'easy rider 'etc.; as you can see I was one of them till joe and jan opened my eyes. I was called 'joy' the rainbow Buddha. one of my rainbow friends started corp. express and sold it for 50 million $ and then bought 'real goods' I asked him for the$; now I have to ask who was he really? most here are good people doing the best they can with the world they were given. within a few w years one could hear these song being song everywhere there were hippies like south America etc. a young man said he to me he was going to a organic farmer but after watching this he want to be just play music just the people he saw; my point is this stuff does affect ya. no problem to y a farmer or what ever.

these were the rich the smart organic beautiful hippies u don't see unless u know were to look ="
" some of the mics are behind the table & drum I made to be the sun and I arranged the flowers; in-joy
greeting Joe this was shot in 1997 here is one more I am in it {you see me when they sing humble your self in the sight of your brother], the blind leading the blind .you will see footage of rainbow gathering MY 1ST ONE WAS IN 1967 I WENT TO 28 NATIONAL GATHERINGS OVER 33 YEARS, cia inspired for sure, good people not knowing what happen to them, thanks joe for opening my eyes. many more on youtube under rainbow sprit. the blond guy singing this song is rich, his father was a supreme judge in ca and he live near la. I put it together ran the show got the fire dancers but had nothing to do with editing it .. enjoy Loren

 
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Jerry Russell

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Hi Loren,

Over in the other thread, Rick was confused about this -- he had the impression that because you've been going to these Rainbow Gatherings since 1967, it must mean you have some personal experience taking LSD. That isn't necessarily the case.

But I'm curious how much you know about the specific effects of various drugs, and how much prevalence of use you see among your friends. What I see here in Eugene is a lot of people high on pot. I think it dulls their responsiveness, but seems to be easier to keep under control than alcohol addiction.
 

Jerry Russell

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Loren's post above inspires several additional questions:

1) Thirty-three years, is this a typological reference to Freemason symbolism?

2) Loren would have been 12 years old in summer 1967. How did a 12-year old from Kansas get to the Rainbow Gathering?

3) Why stop going to Rainbow Gatherings in 2000? Loren's interest in the counter culture apparently continued until about 2014, according to the allegations at the ripoffreport website.
 

Richard Stanley

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[ed. note: moved from 'Postflavians Confront Anti-Judaism' thread]

If skeptics of the SSM have any substantive basis for criticism, or any alternative formulation that we can all get behind, it's time for them to come forward. Joe? Loren? Ousia? Collectivist? Craig Bickford? Charley Prime? Is there anybody out there who will actually engage what we're saying, rather than just lobbing grenades in our direction?
Tick, tock, tick, tock. Time is money Citizens. Either defecate some substance or take another hit of Loren's stolen pot, just not in our kitchen. As we don't want to get busted, even if we similarly end up with fake mug shots. Let the Postflavian purge clock begin.

If one extrapolates the numbers Loren gave us, the CIA hippy shows he helped put on had access to millions of dollars to put them on with, that ran for 33 years. Did I say 33 years? Why would the CIA provide that much money to a person who appears to be a doofus on the surface narrative? Maybe he's not a doofus, which is my opinion. He didn't use any Yellow Sunshine LSD, but then founds a successful company called Rainbow Lite? This is a clear allusion to homosexual enlightenment, as I am told, another obvious Masonic front and plot.
 
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Richard Stanley

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Everybody's talking at me.
I don't hear a word they're saying,
Only the echoes of my mind.
People stopping staring,
I can't see their faces,
Only the shadows of their eyes.

Thanks Harry, ... and Glen
 

Jerry Russell

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Rick, I hope I don't have to step in here again. It's one thing to give you license to fight back against Loren's insults, but you still don't get to post false or misleading information -- even if you're just being sloppy and/or making literary allusions to your illuminated suspicions.

Loren didn't say he personally had access to millions of dollars to put on a show, he said his friends had the money. He didn't personally start a successful corporation, his friend did. I can't find this name 'Rainbow Lite' anywhere, they're talking about 'Rainbow Spirit'. He says the movement was CIA driven, not that he was working for the CIA himself. Homosexual enlightenment, WTF??
 

Richard Stanley

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Loren didn't say he personally had access to millions of dollars to put on a show, he said his friends had the money.
I never said that. I specifically and carefully stated that the CIA hippy shows had access to those funds, and Loren was involved in producing them. While himself not indulging in the central drug of 'enlightenment'. That all is derived directly from his own words, and using Joe's unimpeachable logic he stands convicted of his crimes.

He didn't personally start a successful corporation, his friend did. I can't find this name 'Rainbow Lite' anywhere, they're talking about 'Rainbow Spirit'.
Oopsey, Rainbow Light, not 'Lite'. I understood from before that Loren Byron Hough was the president and founder of the Rainbow Light 'natural' vitamin company, of which I have previously purchased product ... even though I am not homosexual (I just want to make that perfectly clear, though I generally have no problem with them, except the militant kinds perhaps.) If I am wrong about this, maybe this is just another deniable spook legend that vanishes into the mist, like a Midsummer Night's Dream.
He says the movement was CIA driven, not that he was working for the CIA himself.
He would say that wouldn't he?
Homosexual enlightenment, WTF??
Hello .... Earth to Jerry. The rainbow is a clear allusion to the LGBT community, as well as that rainbow which is mentioned in the book of Genesis. Another Jewish and FM plot. The word Light is an obvious allusion to the Illuminati ... and such.
 

Jerry Russell

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Wow, you're right about the Rainbow Light Vitamin Company, Rick, here it is:

http://postflaviana.org/community/index.php?threads/4-13-podcast-special-guest-loren-hough-georgia-guidestones.1150/page-3#post-2026

Rainbow = LGBT, duh. Got it.

But, I think I did correctly parse your allegation that Loren was getting CIA funds. You asked, "Why would the CIA provide that much money to a person who appears to be a doofus on the surface narrative?" There isn't any other doofus we're talking about here, is there?

Anyway, bygones.
 

Richard Stanley

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But, I think I did correctly parse your allegation that Loren was getting CIA funds. You asked, "Why would the CIA provide that much money to a person who appears to be a doofus on the surface narrative?" There isn't any other doofus we're talking about here, is there?
OK, to clarify, my first clause was more narrowly focused on exactly what Lore n stated, while the second clause I allowed, without qualifying, to expand to allow for his wider narrative Lore which all appears certain to be typical spookcraft in nature IMO. Sorry for the confusion.

As was noted long ago, it does seem curious, in all this light, that the company doesn't acknowledge him as their founder. Hmmm
 

lorenhough

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sorry my 1 st one was 1976 all ages go there is a kid city there they have babies born there and people have died, I found out about them in ks as a friend and I had stop going to college for a year and he found out about it. I bought 10 friends and had the time of my life.
acid was a part and you would see all kinds of people rich poor mostly young. short hair mostly long. pot was opening smoked and given away. drinking beer sports etc. was not aloud ..
 
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lorenhough

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sorry my 1 st one was 1976 all ages go there is a kid city there they have babies born there and people have died
acid was a part and you would see all kinds of people rich poor mostly young. short hair mostly long.
I had many friends who became natural paths and were into natural food based vitamins.. around 1970s
rainbow light vitamins I met the owners and at a rainbow gathering they asked me to be a part the had just started it and had just got there 1st barrel of sprialina blue green alge which was there 1st product. so I went to santa cruz stayed with them and decided not to work with them I could have put $ in it as they asked and would have made a lot of $ I decided to sell solar panels instead, 33 years is a guess not sure how many gatherings I been to .. stopped going around 2005 or so.. I would bring 911 $ and give them out.. I would say all drugs are bad and I have stopped using pot now since move to Fiji joes talks with jan helped me see that and the course in mircales the rainbow g the hippis drugswere all the big boys plan.. and I am better off for it.. I was a organic hippy starting in the 70s was in the center fold of k state paper and alunim mag. and new papers for living in a tepi in the winter .. in ks.. maybe one student a year would get that .. I was a care taker for Ram das, in woodside next to plo alto ca. in $5000 amo. rented house on mt over looking the sea and bay I was given a room and was told I brought great joy to the house, I brought him to rainbow gathering in ca, and he asked me to move him to hawii as know one would help him to do so.. RD as I called him also bother told me when I asded him about his book that he said his guru peed in a gass tank to make it run, in there car in inda that was the only time he let his guard down and he said, that story brought in a lot of $.. the name as far as in know, the "rainbow family of living light' started in 1972 gathering has nothing to do with homo sex though it is open to all..sex is not seen there and not as pushed as burning man. I still have friends that go and tell me about it.
spooks ? its good to keep that in mind as they are every where and can be friend you.
never stop looking and asking .. they can lead you down the pied piper path

I hope Richard will forgive me and we can some how work on the problem of being salves.
I will try to get alone..
 
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Jerry Russell

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Hello Loren,

I too hope that Richard will forgive you, and that we can learn to work together. From being salves, at least we can easily reverse letters to become slaves. Achieving freedom will be harder, but Jesus said it was the truth that would set us free, not any political changes. Sadly we now suspect this was just Roman propaganda. In my life, truth is hard work.

Thanks very much for all the information and clarifications. I've never been to any Rainbow Gatherings, but I've gone several times to Oregon Country Fair. I agree I've never heard that the Rainbow Gathering is in any way specialized for LGBT interests. Maybe this was the reason for my strange disconnect re: Rick's statement about illuminated homosexuals. I was not thinking in that context. Sometimes a rainbow is just a rainbow.

Spooks are everywhere and can befriend you, yes indeed. CIA employees are human beings too: calling them "spooks" is unfriendly and dehumanizing.

Could it be that the weed was keeping your cancer in check?
 

lorenhough

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Hello Loren,

I too hope that Richard will forgive you, and that we can learn to work together. From being salves, at least we can easily reverse letters to become slaves. Achieving freedom will be harder, but Jesus said it was the truth that would set us free, not any political changes. Sadly we now suspect this was just Roman propaganda. In my life, truth is hard work.

Thanks very much for all the information and clarifications. I've never been to any Rainbow Gatherings, but I've gone several times to Oregon Country Fair. I agree I've never heard that the Rainbow Gathering is in any way specialized for LGBT interests. Maybe this was the reason for my strange disconnect re: Rick's statement about illuminated homosexuals. I was not thinking in that context. Sometimes a rainbow is just a rainbow.

Spooks are everywhere and can befriend you, yes indeed. CIA employees are human beings too: calling them "spooks" is unfriendly and dehumanizing.

Could it be that the weed was keeping your cancer in check?
Could it be that the weed was keeping your cancer in check?funny that had crossed my mind more then once. even though smoking it is not as good as eating it, I didn't smoke a lot at once but everyday for sure .. the last 10 years was hash I learn to make for ram dass ..if need I will go back to usa for some oil.
I did get cbd oil in mail ok but not as strong..working with others we learn so much faster.. I was very happy to see you look at [pot as good for cancer .. I don't know what I have though I act as if it is wil get dr report soon as what it is.. joe says he would do what I am doing ... so happy to be alive so happy to love life

my 1st Oregon fair was 1978 there great fun, rainbow was in orgean ram dass was there grateful dead was playing that time near by and so was bob marley what a summer that was/ also saw a whale for first time .. you have to love oregan

I met bill t the guy who help write the course in miracles and who joe and jan said was working for cia, he was very smart esay going and very likeable so was ram dass... call them what ever you want spook was not my word but jerries' but they did hurt people ....
 
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Richard Stanley

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Jerry's and my 9/11 research brought us into some epic battles (working both together and separately from each other) with others that make this one look like child's play. My angry construction of your 'profile' was partially meant to be an object lesson on how easy it is to connect dots in order to impune bad motives to others, who while misguided and misled in some regards, may indeed think they are agents of good. Unfortunately youth is indeed wasted on the young, and I wonder what I could have accomplished if I had known then what I have learned the hard way now. My life would have been vastly different.

For one thing, as I have said before I would have been to the top of more mountains. Some of my old hiking friends used to hike with Mars Bonfire (of Steppenwolf and Born to be Wild fame) before my time. Mars is locally famous for having summited all the Sierra Club's 100 Peaks list (actually closer to 150? peaks) over ten times each. I have done only 15 or so, several many times. Jerry, myself, and another friend of mine made a 'trip' to the top of Mt. Hoffman at the very center of Yosemite, where I at least had a new door of perception opened. Jerry did not hop over the last few boulders at the top, from where one could see the crest of the Sierras and all the way to the Pacific Coastal Range. But at least he was able to look down on Half Dome, of which maybe he will grace us with a photo he took. Back in Jerry's car I experienced the strongest endorphin rush I have ever had, and this was not by far the hardest hike I had been on. Maybe as John Sacramento would have sang, Sierra Mountain High .. California.

On a subsequent 'trip' I showed Jerry yet another perspective looking down on Half Dome and the entire length of Yosemite Valley from Pluto's Point (not on the map). Here Jerry did make it to the camp at Sunshine Meadow, where the Sun was indeed yellow.

Hoffman, trip, perception, perspective, yellow sunshine, high

Be mellow, but 'in moderation, as with all things, except moderation' (Mencken).

Regards
 

Richard Stanley

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Loren,

As regards your descriptions of your personal journey as to finding your 'god' be it as it may, I have no real quarrel, except perhaps on some of your conclusions. I yet believe that material cause and effect trumps all, and what we can not yet explain just has not yet had the causal explanation found for it. Some things may never be determined by man, but that they might be 'supernatural' only depends on what one considers 'natural'. If there are extra dimensions that our fives senses and scientific instruments can not detect then so be it.

Supposedly there is an old Muslim saying: "Context is Everything." I would add 'experiential perspective' to this as well. Everyone has different experiences from each other to one degree or another. And unfortunately we tend to project our experiences and contextual frameworks on others.

That said, here is what the 'evil' Dr. Hofmann said in the foreward to his book, LSD, My Problem Child:

There is today a widespread striving for mystical experience, for visionary breakthroughs to a deeper, more comprehensive reality than that perceived by our rational, everyday consciousness. Efforts to transcend our materialistic world view are being made in various ways, not only by the adherents to Eastern religious movements, but also by professional psychiatrists, who are adopting such profound spiritual experiences as a basic therapeutic principle.

I share the belief of many of my contemporaries that the spiritual crisis pervading all spheres of Western industrial society can be remedied only by a change in our world view. We shall have to shift from the materialistic, dualistic belief that people and their environment are separate, toward a new consciousness of an all-encompassing reality, which embraces the experiencing ego, a reality in which people feel their oneness with animate nature and all of creation.

Everything that can contribute to such a fundamental alteration in our perception of reality must therefore command earnest attention. Foremost among such approaches are the various methods of meditation, either in a religious or a secular context, which aim to deepen the consciousness of reality by way of a total mystical experience. Another important, but still controversial, path to the same goal is the use of the consciousness-altering properties of hallucinogenic psychopharmaceuticals. LSD finds such an application in medicine, by helping patients in psychoanalysis and psychotherapy to perceive their problems in their true significance.

Deliberate provocation of mystical experience, particularly by LSD and related hallucinogens, in contrast to spontaneous visionary experiences, entails dangers that must not be underestimated. Practitioners must take into account the peculiar effects of these substances, namely their ability to influence our consciousness, the innermost essence of our being. The history of LSD to date amply demonstrates the catastrophic consequences that can ensue when its profound effect is misjudged and the substance is mistaken for a pleasure drug. Special internal and external advance preparations are required; with them, an LSD experiment can become a meaningful experience. Wrong and inappropriate use has caused LSD to become my problem child.

It is my desire in this book to give a comprehensive picture of LSD, its origin, its effects, and its dangers, in order to guard against increasing abuse of this extraordinary drug. I hope thereby to emphasize possible uses of LSD that are compatible with its characteristic action. I believe that if people would learn to use LSD's vision-inducing capability more wisely, under suitable conditions, in medical practice and in conjunction with meditation, then in the future this problem child could become a wonder child.

http://www.hallucinogens.com/hofmann/childf.htm
 
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