April 18: Gelitin, E-Team, Back to the Future and 9-11

[Jerry Russell]

(This podcast isn't posted yet, but will be coming soon...)

Overview of Gelitin and the E-Team:

http://www.markdotzler.com/Mark_Dotzler/WTC_Artists.html

Gelitin's "B-thing":

http://www.gelitin.net/projects/b-thing/

Jonathan Elinoff writes about Hanan Serfaty, possible link between Gelitin and the Israeli art students:

http://www.infowars.com/art-students-in-wtc-connected-to-israeli-intelligence-service/

But, Elinoff's report is debunked here --

http://www.takeourworldback.com/elinoff.htm

More about Gelitin projects --

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9A03E4DD163EF935A35752C1A9639C8B63

'Schlunde' cannibalistic tunnel project

According to the NY Times article above, the names of the Gelitin artists are Ali Janka, Florian Reither, Tobias Urban and Wolfgang Gantner. I gave the names incorrectly on the podcast.

'Back to the Future Predicts 911' video by Joe Alexander -- article about the video:

http://www.avclub.com/article/was-back-future-coded-warning-about-911-attacks-227070

Interview with Alexander about the video (behind paywall, costs 98 cents):

http://thesyncbook.com/?pagename=42minutes&ep=bonus37

And, the video itself:

 

[Flavi Anna]

Jonathan Elinoff's excellent 2+-hour documentary, "Core of Corruption: In the Shadows," (find it in full on YouTube) was one of few documentaries delving into the question of Israeli involvement in the 9/11 attacks. It was to be followed up with a sequel entitled "Echoes of Treason." Just prior to the announced release date the sequel was nixed. Its very slick, approximately 10-minute-long trailer promised to deliver more of what "In the Shadows" dug up. I was one of the lucky people to purchase the "In the Shadows" DVD with the foresight that online versions could one day be removed. Good thing, since Viacom apparently has blocked the link to it on topdocumentaryfilms.com. Search for it on YouTube, as other channels tend to replace such pearls of research when they get removed. Too bad the sequel was never released. Speculation on why Elinoff pulled it last-minute can be found in the top few search results on Google. Years ago, I read an obscure blurb purportedly by Elinoff as to his rationale for "pulling it" (not in the Larry Silverstein manner of "pulling it" lol); I had the impression that he was under duress, but I can't recall details at this time. Must have been significant to flush years of toil on such a project. Elinoff had an online presence for a while thereafter, but not related to 9/11. He investigated a pedo public figure in Colorado, if I'm not mistaken.

Christopher Bollyn remains one of the best resources on 9/11 IMHO.

Here's an interview, reportedly of NJ police officer Scott DeCarlo on his arrest of the "Dancing Israelis":
https://youtu.be/0-B2J7tp8eg

 

[Mike Dexter]

I have yet to view "Core of Corruption: In the Shadows", but I have read all of the articles linked by Jerry. My working hypothesis is that, in so far as we want to determine who exactly the September Criminals are, the b-thing and Gelitin is a red herring, though a thought provoking one. Let's say that Gelitin had a role in wiring up explosives in WTC 1. Then, who did the same job in the other two buildings? And how would Gelitin have planted explosives all up and down the full height of the tower, much less the basement?

I also think that it's a distraction to focus almost exclusively on one set of actors, especially foreign ones, like Israelis and Saudis. The 9/11 attacks came about because of a confluence of interests among several powerful and evil forces. I think that Kevin Ryan's approach might bear more fruit in the long run.
http://www.another19.com/index.html/

I am very grateful for the work that the Postflaviana team does! Long may you prosper.

 

[Jerry Russell]

Thanks Mike! I agree it's not likely that Gelitin were responsible for wiring the explosives. It's just that their art seemed to display foreknowledge, and then gloating afterwards, with their humorous cannibal symbolism.

 

[Richard Stanley]

I also think that it's a distraction to focus almost exclusively on one set of actors, especially foreign ones, like Israelis and Saudis. The 9/11 attacks came about because of a confluence of interests among several powerful and evil forces. I think that Kevin Ryan's approach might bear more fruit in the long run.
http://www.another19.com/index.html/

Have you read Ryan's book?

I think that the fact of the Bush/Israeli/Saudi common interests in the security company that ran matters at the WTC and the airports is rather more telling of what likely happened inside. And I agree that the various Israeli 'actors' are likely all part of the distraction and obfuscation plan, albeit also part of the rich 'ritual' symbology.

I think it may have been Ryan who had earlier brought my attention to the 80th floor North Tower tenant, The Beast, an IT company, which I mentioned in my 9/11 post. In looking at the Wikipedia tenants list, I note another curious tenant name, Thor Technologies, but a search reveals a wide number of different companies bearing this name.

The North Tower is now the site of the (North) Bottomless Pit(s), the Abyss of Revelation 9 (and 9:11 also referring to Apollyon), which was also discussed in the Shmita forum thread around the time of the pope's visit and the Blood Red Moon.

The North Memorial Pool. Note you cannot see the bottom of the center hole. I guess having two such pools is a nice tribute to the Gemini Twins, who symbolically rang in the arrival of the Apostle Paul to Rome, and were the Greco-Roman saviors before Christ.

 

[Mike Dexter]

Thanks Mike! I agree it's not likely that Gelitin were responsible for wiring the explosives. It's just that their art seemed to display foreknowledge, and then gloating afterwards, with their humorous cannibal symbolism.

Right, I had wandered far afield after listening to the podcast, the subject of which was foreknowledge, not perpetration. Thanks for your reply.

 

[Mike Dexter]

Have you read Ryan's book?

Yes. It is very dense, much like David Ray Griffin's books, and jam packed with incriminating facts. I recommend it highly.

 

[lorenhough]

(This podcast isn't posted yet, but will be coming soon...)

Overview of Gelitin and the E-Team:

http://www.markdotzler.com/Mark_Dotzler/WTC_Artists.html

Gelitin's "B-thing":

http://www.gelitin.net/projects/b-thing/

Jonathan Elinoff writes about Hanan Serfaty, possible link between Gelitin and the Israeli art students:

http://www.infowars.com/art-students-in-wtc-connected-to-israeli-intelligence-service/

But, Elinoff's report is debunked here --

http://www.takeourworldback.com/elinoff.htm

More about Gelitin projects --

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9A03E4DD163EF935A35752C1A9639C8B63

'Schlunde' cannibalistic tunnel project

According to the NY Times article above, the names of the Gelitin artists are Ali Janka, Florian Reither, Tobias Urban and Wolfgang Gantner. I gave the names incorrectly on the podcast.

'Back to the Future Predicts 911' video by Joe Alexander -- article about the video:

http://www.avclub.com/article/was-back-future-coded-warning-about-911-attacks-227070

Interview with Alexander about the video (behind paywall, costs 98 cents):

http://thesyncbook.com/?pagename=42minutes&ep=bonus37

And, the video itself:

more foreknowledge or predictive programing;
http://www.federaljack.com/prince-predicts-911-in-1998/
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