I say that each and every one of us is the Son of Manu that was foretold unto us! But not all Manu are created Equal, at least not genealogically speaking.
The various individuals mentioned above in Seeker's post, such as Manu VI, Julia Emesa, Gaius Julius Longinus Sohaemus, Izas VII, Gaius Juliius Avitus, the Kings of Armenia, Charlemagne, William the Conquerer and so forth, all belong to the classification of "Royalty and Nobility of Western Civilization". In general, throughout recorded history, these "High Born" individuals have sought to marry other "High Born", either from their own country or internationally. The number of such Royals and Nobles has been relatively small in each generation, as the vast majority of individuals in classical and feudal societies were peasants, warriors, merchants and so forth, who were definitely NOT Royalty or Landed Gentry.
Thus, the population of Royals and Nobles in Western Civilization make a small, highly inbred pool of related individuals. To quote myself f
rom an earlier thread:
"There's a lot of genealogical data available about this community. The best databases, such as
ww-person.com and
www.genealogics.org, have over 700,000 names in their indexes. A smaller database called royal92.ged has about 3,000 names, focussed on royalty and their immediate relatives. There's an interesting graphic tool at
http://www.datasketch.es/october/code/nadieh/ that enables a visualization of the degree of interconnectedness among European royalty. One other site,
www.thepeerage.com, also now has about 700,000 names in the database, but they mention in the FAQ that they calculate consanguinity whenever they can, and that they can name 3,910 ancestors for Prince Charles."
As a very rough estimate: if the above databases cover 1000 years (~40 generations) with a reasonable level of thoroughness, they would document an average of 17,500 individuals per generation. And as discussed in my article "
Genetics of the Oligarchs", (and also see
Pedigree Collapse at Wikipedia): the phenomenon of pedigree collapse within a population of 17,500 individuals, occurs within less than 400 years. That is, we find that every Royal or Noble person alive at any given time, is descended from virtually each and every Royal or Noble person who was alive 400 years earlier, and who left any descendants at all.
And furthermore, many or most of those Royal and Noble men were "culturally degraded" individuals, who by no means confined themselves to monogamy with their High Born wives. To the contrary, they had plenty of kids with the servants, courtiers, and anyone else who caught their fancy. Some of these couplings were documented, but many were not. This means that at every generation, there was some leakage from the breeding pool of the Royals, into the general population. As a result, a reasonable guess is that all of us "White People" are related to some Western High Born person who was alive 700 or 800 years ago, or less.
Beyond that, we can probably all trace our genes back to Charlemagne, and from there back to Manu VI, whether we can prove it or not. But most of us have only a tiny percentage of "Royal Blood", based on some random coupling hundreds of years ago. By contrast, elite individuals can trace their descent to Charlemagne by many pathways, and nearly all their ancestors are among the "High Born".
In closing: to understand what I'm talking about, don't miss the interactive royal genealogy map at:
http://www.datasketch.es/october/code/nadieh/
