Richard Stanley
Well-Known Member
First of all, where did I say to accuse anyone of such? I merely said to be aware that there is logically an organized propaganda effort to deter bringing the perpetrators to account. It is illogical and unreasonable to argue otherwise.I agree that it's important to recognize that some of the opposition is paid. But, how does it help to speculate about the motives of particular individuals? The downside is that if you're wrong, you risk insulting and alienating people who generally share most of our views & objectives. And even if you're correct, you come off sounding like an illogical and unreasonable person. You're rejecting all the innocent psychological explanations for irrational behavior, which are just as likely as the snitch-jacketing explanation.
As to allocation of time -- I agree that it eventually becomes a waste to engage in circular arguments, especially if you find yourself feeling that somebody is acting like a spook.
I just proved, via my list, that I am not rejecting all the innocent explanations.
Yes, my argument is based upon facts and logic. If the fuselage made the hole, then where is the necessarily intact fuselage? If an engine made the hole, then where is the engine?Isn't that an argument based on facts and logic?
We know that those military folks are obsessively tidy, yet if they went to the trouble of pulling either the fuselage or an engine or two back into the building, then why did they leave all the other loose debris on the ground in front of the hole. How did 'that specific debris' make such a clean oval hole?
Are you saying that the fuselage made the hole, then disintegrated? Jim Hoffman said that the plane disintegrated (imploded, not exploded) just before entry into the building, so that it could fit into the dimensions of the hole.
And our old friend, Russell Pickering, found a photo of what shaped charges can do to a brick wall. That is, make a perfectly circular hole, so I think it is safe to say that shaped charges can also make an oval shaped hole as well.
To counter a decent explanation (of pure demolition fakery), the spurious argument was then raised that the plane fuselage created a laser-like, collimated, vortex of air, the exact same cross-section of the fuselage, and this air vortex is what created the clean oval hole, while the same fuselage was shredded. Thank Allah that the path of the magical vortex was dead center between the two structural columns.