The richest families that we know of. $ how they came to rule the world

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  1. lorenhough

    lorenhough Well-Known Member

    Rothschild trillions pick kings popes the king of the religion called "money" to keep the salves happy. The king of the Jews the new Rothschild Messiah .. They know who invented Jesus and they know they didn't kill him and hate all who put them down for the last 2000 years. In secret ...

    Congressman Louis T. McFadden who, for more than ten years, served as chairman of the Banking and Currency Committee, stated that the international bankers are a "dark crew of financial pirates who would cut a man's throat to get a dollar out of his pocket... They prey upon the people of these United States."

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    John F. Hylan, then mayor of New York, said in 1911 that "the real menace of our republic is the invisible government which, like a giant octopus, sprawls its slimy length over our city, state and nation. At the head is a small group of banking houses, generally referred to as 'international bankers.'"

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    Basically, people just know that the Rothschilds were the world's richest people, and based out of Europe. .... were able to fund most of the major wars that have happened over the past 200 or so years.

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    According to the late Commander William Guy Carr, who was an Intelligence Officer in the Royal Canadian Navy, and whohad excellent contacts in intelligence circles around the world, the founder of the House of Rothschild drew up plans for the creation of the Illuminati and then entrusted Adam Weishaupt with its organization and development.

    Sir Walter Scott, in the second volume of his Life of Napoleon, states that the French Revolution was planned by the Illuminati and was financed by the money changers of Europe. Interestingly enough, the above book (which this author has both seen and read) is the only book written by Scott that is not listed under his name in any of the 'authoritative' reference works. It is now a 'non book'!
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  2. lorenhough

    lorenhough Well-Known Member

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    French aristocrats, who prided themselves on their elegance and superior breeding, viewed the Rothschilds as mere peasants, upstarts who needed to be kept in their place. The fact that the Rothschilds had vast financial resources, lived in the most luxurious homes and were attired in the most elegant and expensive clothes obtainable cut no ice with the highly class conscious French nobility. The Rothschilds were viewed as uncouth -- lacking in social graces. If we are to believe most historical accounts, their appraisal of the first generation Rothschilds was probably valid.

    One major piece of armament in the Rothschild arsenal the French had overlooked or ignored -- their unprecedented cunning in the use and manipulation of money.

    On November 5, 1818, something very unexpected occurred. After a year of steady appreciation the value of the French government bonds began to fall. With each passing day the decline in their value became more pronounced. Within a short space of time other government securities began to suffer too.

    The atmosphere in the court of Louis XVIII was tense. Grim faced aristocrats pondered the fate of the country. They hoped for the best but feared the worst! The only people around the French court who weren't deeply concerned were James and Karl Rothschild. They smiled -- but said nothing!

    Slowly a sneaking suspicion began to take shape in the minds of some onlookers. Could those Rothschild brothers be the cause of the nation's economic woes? Could they have secretly manipulated the bond market and engineered the panic?

    They had! During October 1818, Rothschild agents, using their masters' limitless reserves, had bought huge quantities of the French government bonds issued through their rivals Ouvrard and Baring Brothers. This caused the bonds to increase in value. Then, on November 5th, they began to dump the bonds in huge quantities on the open market in the main commercial centers of Europe, throwing the market into a panic.

    Suddenly the scene in the Aix palace changed. The Rothschilds, who were patiently biding their time and waiting quietly in an ante room, were ushered into the presence of the king. They were now the center of attention. Their clothes were now the height of fashion. "Their money [was] the darling of the best borrowers." The Rothschilds had gained control of France...and control is the name of the game!

    Benjamin Disraeli, who was the prime minister of Britain, wrote a novel titled Coningsby. The Jewish Encyclopedia, Vol. 10, pp. 501, 5O2 describes the book as "an ideal portrait" of the Rothschild Empire. Disraeli characterized Nathan (in conjunction with his four brothers) as "the lord and master of the money markets of the world, and of course virtally lord and master of everything else. He literally held the revenues of southern Italy in pawn, and monarchs and ministers of all countries courted his advice and were guided by his suggestions."


    The financial coups performed by the Rothschilds in England in 1815, and in France three years later, are just two of the many they have staged worldwide over the years.
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  3. lorenhough

    lorenhough Well-Known Member

    Following their conquest of Europe early in the 1800s, the Rothschilds cast their covetous eyes on the most precious gem of them all -- the United States.

    America was unique in modern history. It was only the second nation in history that had ever been formed with the Bible as its law book. Its uniquely magnificent Constitution was specifically designed to limit the power of government and to keep its citizens free and prosperous. Its citizens were basically industrious immigrants who 'yearned to breath free' and who asked nothing more than to be given the opportunity to live and work in such a wonderfully stimulating environment.

    The results -- the 'fruit' -- of such a unique experiment were so indescribably brilliant that America became a legend around the globe. Many millions across the far flung continents of the world viewed America the Beautiful as the promised land.

    The Big Bankers in Europe -- the Rothschilds and their cohorts -- viewed the wonderful results borne by this unique experiment from an entirely different perspective; they looked upon it as a major threat to their future plans. The establishment Times of London stated: "If that mischievous financial policy which had its origin in the North American Republic [i.e. honest Constitutionally authorized no debt money] should become indurated down to a fixture, then that government will furnish its own money without cost. It will pay off its debts and be without a debt [to the international bankers]. It will become prosperous beyond precedent in the history of the civilized governments of the world. The brains and wealth of all countries will go to North America. That government must be destroyed or it will destroy every monarchy on the globe."

    The Rothschilds and their friends sent in their financial termites to destroy America because it was becoming "prosperous beyond precedent."
  4. lorenhough

    lorenhough Well-Known Member

    brief history of Kuhn, Loeb and Co. appeared in Newsweek magazine on February 1, 1936: "Abraham Kuhn and Solomon Loeb were general merchandise merchants in Lafayette, Indiana, in 1850. As usual in newly settled regions, most transactions were on credit. They soon found out that they were bankers... In 1867, they established Kuhn, Loeb and Co., bankers, in New York City, and took in a young German immigrant, Jacob Schiff, as partner. Young Schiff had important financial connections in Europe. After ten years, Jacob Schiff was head of Kuhn, Loeb and Co., Kuhn having retured. Under Schiff's guidance, the house brought European capital into contact with American industry."

    Schiff's "important financial connections in Europe" were the Rothschilds and their German representatives, the M. M. Warburg Company of Hamburg and Amsterdam. Within twenty years the Rothschilds, through their Warburg-Schiff connection, had provided the capital that enabled John D. Rockefeller to greatly expand his Standard Oil empire. They also financed the activities of Edward Harriman (Railroads) and Andrew Carnegie (Steel).

    At the turn of the 20th century the Rothschilds, not satisfied with the progress being made by their American operntions, sent one of their top experts, Paul Moritz Warburg, over to New York to take direct charge of their assault upon the only true champion of individual liberty and prosperity -- the United States.

    At a hearing of the House Committee on Banking and Currency in 1913, Warburg revealed that he was "a member of the banking firm of Kuhn, Loeb and Co. I came to this country in 1902, having been born and educated in the banking business in Hamburg, Germany, and studied banking in London and Paris, and have gone all around the world...."

    In the late 1800s, people didn't study banking in London and "all around the world" unless they had a special mission to perform!

    Congressman Charles Lindbergh put his finger firmly on the truth when he stated, just after the 'Federal' Reserve Act was passed by a depleted Congress on December 23, 1913: "The Act establishes the most gigantic trust on earth. When the President [Wilson] signs this Bill, the invisible government of the monetaary power will be legalized....The greatest crime of the ages is perpetrated by this banking and currency bill."
  5. lorenhough

    lorenhough Well-Known Member


    Having consolidated their financial grip on most of the European nations by the middle of the last century, the international bankers worked feverishly to extend their sphere of influence to the ends of the earth in preparation for their final assault on the United States -- a nation which, through its unique Constitution, remained free.

    In the decades that followed it became apparent that, in order to achieve their goal of world domination, they would have to instigate a series of world wars which would result in leveling of the old world in preparation for the construction of the New World Order. This plan was outlined in graphic detail by Albert Pike, the Sovereign Grand Commander of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry and the top Illuminist in America. In a letter to Guisseppe Mazzini dated August 15, 1871. Pike stated that the first world war was to be fomented in order to destroy Czarist Russia -- and to place that vast land under the direct control of Illuminati agents. Russia was then to be used as a 'bogey man' to further the aims of the Illuminati worldwide.

    World War II was to be fomented through manipulation of the differences that existed between the German Nationalists and the Political Zionists. This was to result in an expansion of Russian influence and the establishment of a state of Israel in Palestine.

    The Third World War was planned to result form the differences stirred up by Illuminati agents between the Zionists and the Arabs. The conflict was planned to spread worldwide. The llluminati, said the letter, planned to "unleash the Nihilists and Atheists" and "provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass [directionl, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view, a manifestation which will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquored and exterminated at the same time."

    At the time Pike wrote this remarkable leaflet there were five different ideologies extant on the world scene and involved in a "struggle for space and power." These were:

    1. The secret ideology of the international bankers or the Illuminati as laid out in Fourth Reich Of The Rich. Their aim was the creation of a One World Government to be ruled over by the "Illuminated ones" at the top.

    2. The Russian "Pan-Slavic" ideology which was originally conceived by William the Great and expounded in his will. According to A.H. Granger, the author of England World Empire, 1916, p. 173, this ideology called for the elimination of Austria and Germany, then the conquest of India and Persia and ends with the words:
  6. lorenhough

    lorenhough Well-Known Member

    which will ensure the subjugation of Europe."

    3. The ideology of "Asia for the Asiatics" as expounded by the Japanese. This called for a confederation of Asian nations dominated by Japan.

    4. The ideology of Pan Germanism which called for German political control over the European continent, freedom from the Crown's restrictions on the high seas and the adoption of an "open door" policy in trade and commerce with the rest of the world.

    5. Pan-American or the ideology of "America for the Americans." This called for "trade and friendship with all, alliances with none." Secretary of State Root stated in 1906 that, under this ideology which was given expression in the Monroe Doctrine of 1823, we are "debarred from sharing in the political aims, interests, or responsibilities of Europe, just as by the equally potential doctrine, now nearly a century old, the European powers are excluded from sharing or interfering in the political concerns of the sovereign states of the Western Hemisphere."

    If the plans of the international banker/llluminati cabal were to be brought to fruition, Russia, Germany, Japan and the United States would have to be brought to their knees in unconditional surrender, poverty and ignominy.
  7. Jerry Russell

    Jerry Russell Administrator Staff Member

    The article at the above-included link to Australian National Review, "Why the world's richest families are not included in Forbes' Rich List", states that estimates of the Rothschild family fortune range as high as $100 Trillion (the YouTube page for the above video claims $500 Trillion), but ANR thinks the fortune is just $350 Billion -- which still makes it probably the world's biggest family fortune. However it is split among hundreds of Rothschild descendants.

    I feel that the high-end estimates are impossible -- there isn't that much wealth in the world.
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  8. lorenhough

    lorenhough Well-Known Member

    . Remember the queen of England land holdings was 33 trillion but that maybe under control of the crown which is secret ownership. Book "who owns the earth".

    Jerry does matter how much $ they have when they can print all they need for free. The high priest of the new world religions $. There is no limit. They (who ever they are- we can only guess ) have taken control of water food energy transportation school Heath military and now are making new form of world government banking tec. $ based on energy divided by people to have credit. That must be used but never saved up.

    Even here in Fiji you can see there footprints as they pay people to not cut there trees, (co2) eating food that shortened there lives.. Deciding there is to many people and not asking just doing as they wilt! And putting it in stone 500 million is the plan. It's the big FU. LH
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  9. Jerry Russell

    Jerry Russell Administrator Staff Member

    The Queen nominally owns all the real estate in the British Commonwealth, and even that amount adds up to only $33 Trillion. But, that ownership is only a legal theory: the right to inhabit and use the land, and exclude others, is conveyed by registered Torrens Title. In other words, the Queen graciously allows her subjects to make use of her land.

    That's a pretty good point. Does it make any difference whether the Rothschild wealth is 500 Trillion, or if it's less than 0.1% of that? Either number is too big to comprehend.

    But if it's true that the Rothschild's fortune has been divided into 100's of equal pieces, and it's only 350 Billion -- then each individual Rothschild is only ~$3.5 Billion, give or take. Whereas, they say Bill Gates is $75 Billion. Gates has been stirring up some mischief.
  10. lorenhough

    lorenhough Well-Known Member

    If ? Where did you see that? Division?

    When this is true;

    When he died on September 19, 1812, the founder of the House of Rothschild left a will that was just days old. In it, he laid down specific laws by which the House that bore his name would operate in future year.
    The laws were as follows:

    (1) All key positions in the House of Rothschild were to be held by members of the family, and not by hired hands. Only male members of the family were allowed to participate in the business.

    The eldest son of the eldest son was to be the head of the family unless the majority of the rest of the family agreed otherwise. It was for this exceptional reason that Nathan, who was particularly brilliant, was appointed head of the House of Rothschild in 1812.

    (2) The family was to intermarry with their own first and second cousins, thus preserving the vast fortune. This rule was strictly adhered to early on but later, when other rich Jewish banking houses came on the scene, it was relaxed to allow some of the Rothschilds to marry selected members of the new elite.

    (3) Amschel forbade his heirs "most explicitly, in any circumstances whatever, to have any public inventory made by the courts, or otherwise, of my estate .... Also I forbid any legal action and any publication of the value of the inheritance .... Anyone who disregards these provisions and takes any kind of action which conflicts with them will immediately be regarded as having disputed the will, and shall suffer the consequences of so doing."

    (4) Rothschild ordered a perpetual family partnership and provided that the female members of the family, their husbands and children should receive their interest in the estate subject to the management of the male members. They were to have no part in the management of the business. Anyone who disputed this arrangement would lose their interest in the Estate. (The last stipulation was specifically designed to seal the mouths of anyone who might feel like breaking with the family. Rothschild obviously felt that there were a lot of things under the family 'rug' that should never see the light of day).

    The mighty strength of the House of Rothschild was based on a variety of important factors: (A) Complete secrecy resulting from total family control of all business dealings;

    (B) An uncanny, one could almost say a supernatural ability to see what lay ahead and to take full advantage of it. The whole family was driven by an insatiable lust for the accumulation of wealth and power, and

    (C) Total ruthlessness in all business dealings.

    Biographer Frederic Morton, in The Rothschilds, tells us that Mayer Amschel Rothschild and his five sons were "wizards" of finance, and "fiendish calculators" who were motivated by a "demonic drive" to succeed in their secret undertakings.

    Sharing profits is different if the total is still in play. Again who fixes gold prices? Etc. they have never told any body there true wealth... Sorry I don't buy it below 1.5 who is fooling who?

    $1.5 billion United Kingdom, France At least 10 members

    Rothschild has been the first name in European private banking since Mayer Amschel Rothschild’s five sons started opening banks in the 1790s. The family’s Swiss-based holding company, Rothschilds Continuation Holdings, still manages a top-notch private banking operation, but the focus has clearly shifted away from traditional banking and into the ultracompetitive field of mergers and acquisitions. NM Rothschild & Sons turned up on top-ten lists for M&A deals completed in 2001, trouncing rivals like Lazard. London-based Sir Evelyn, 71, chairs RCH and NMR, but there’s talk he may soon pass the baton to his 60-year-old Parisian cousin, Baron David. In addition to Sir Evelyn and Baron David, at least eight other Rothschilds are believed to hold stakes in Rothschild Continuation Holdings.

    By 1823 the Rothschilds were guardians of the entire papal treasure and took over the financial operations of the Catholic Church.

    Until recently, they owned and operated England’s Royal Mint and continue to be the gold agent for the Bank of England, which they also direct. They control the LBMA, London Bullion Market Association, where 30 to 40 million ounces of gold, worth over 11 billion dollars are traded daily. The Rothschilds earn millions weekly, just on transaction fees alone. They also fix the world price on gold on a daily basis and profit from its ups and downs.

    Over the centuries, the Rothschilds have amassed trillions of dollars worth of gold bullion in their subterranean vaults and have cornered the world’s gold supply. They own controlling interests in the worlds largest oil company Royal Dutch Shell. They operate phony charities and off-shore banking services where the wealth of the Vatican and black nobility is hidden in secret accounts at Rothschild Swiss banks, trusts and holding companies.

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  11. lorenhough

    lorenhough Well-Known Member

    The richest most powerful don't give it up no way! This next 4 min video is about 9-11 and

    Some researchers are pointing out that Iran is one of only three countries left in the world whose central bank is not under Rothschild control. Before 9-11 there were reportedly seven: Afghanistan, Iraq, Sudan, Libya, Cuba, North Korea and Iran. By 2003, however, Afghanistan and Iraq were swallowed up by the Rothschild octopus, and by 2011 Sudan and Libya were also gone. In Libya, a Rothschild bank was established in Benghazi while the country was still at war.

    Opium trade with China.

    The Rothschilds bought controlling interests in British East India Shipping Company and the illegal Opium trade with China. They offered junior partnerships to New England’s leading American families.
    The Russell, Coolidge, DeLeino, Forbes and Perkins families became fabulously rich smuggling Opium aboard their speedy Clipper ships into China. In 1820 Samuel Russell bought out the Perkins syndicate and ran the Opium smuggling operation with his partner Warren DeLeino Jr. who was the grandfather of President Franklin Delano Roosevelt.
    Britain had finally found a commodity that China would take, Opium. Imported from India, just a few chests at first, and then thousands. When the Chinese authorities tried to stop the Opium trade, the British sent in their Gunboats. After nearly 20 years of turmoil the treaty of Tien-Tsin in 1858 not only allowed Opium to be imported, but handed over China’s ports and all her International trade to Western control.
    After the war, Opium poured into China on an even greater scale and her Emperors were powerless to stop it.
    In 1842, the British stole Hong Kong from China in an Opium drug-deal called the treaty of Nanking. The Russell family who controlled the US arm of the Rothschild drug smuggling operation, set up the Skull and Bones fraternity at Yale University. America’s big money families formed the fraternity’s inner power circle. Taft, Russell, Schiff, Haremon, Bush, Warburg, Guggenheim, Rockefeller, Stemson, Weighouser, Vanderbilt, Goodyear and Pillsbury were all members.
    These families intermarried over the generations to form America’s big money aristocracy. Skull and bones member Alfonso Taft catapulted his son William Taft right into the top job at the White House. President Taft’s 17th. Amendment to the US Constitution guaranteed the right of big-money insiders to hand-pick Senators and buy control of the US Senate. Today, the most influential members of the CIA, the US Government, and big finance are Skull and Bones men.
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  12. lorenhough

    lorenhough Well-Known Member

    I hope you will watch the 1st video above when you have time. It's real well done..and self evident..

    I don't believe the Rothschilds came to can rule the world by them selves there most be other families before them with them and after them but there history is text book on how..
    They may not all be Jewish but all are for power and for them selves as inheriteing the world, and seem to hate the common man. Sorry to say. There dreams seem to be comming true.

    It was a plan to divide and conquer the nations of the world, by provoking war then profiting from war loans and sales of weapons to both sides. Exhausted by war, terror and chaos, humanity would eventually bow-down to One World ruler and One World army as a solution.

    It was a plan to control public opinion, by purchasing controlling shares in newspaper houses, TV networks, publishing houses and film studios.
    Sports, games and alcohol would be used to distract the masses. Laws would be changed, banks would be monopolized and people and nations would be made into obedient debt-slaves.

    With Rothschild financing, Adam Weishaupt formed a secret world revolutionary group called the Illuminati. He recruited thousands of influential members by convincing them that only men of superior ability had the right to rule over the ignorant masses.
    French police exposed the plan, when they found documents on an Illuminati courier who was struck by lightening while traveling from Germany to France.
    The Illuminati was forced underground. They took refuge with the Freemasons.

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  13. lorenhough

    lorenhough Well-Known Member

    Sutton on Rothschild

    Also London USA bankers ww2

  14. ousia

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    Its impossible to tell who I'm quoting because loren never uses quotation marks and the only thing I have to go on is the quality of english:

    I assume this quote is from someone other than Loren:
    " America was unique in modern history. It was only the second nation in history that had ever been formed with the Bible as its law book. "

    This statement is pure nonsense! There is no factual basis for such a claim.
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  15. lorenhough

    lorenhough Well-Known Member

    Wolf in a green sheep skin
    To many sheep people?
    This one of the best videos
    That covers a lot of what I posted.
    Earth day 1972
    Summit to save the earth from the people
    Rothschilds sets up bank for control of the canon fodder
    This is a must see
    When where what who why how they control the world
  16. Jerry Russell

    Jerry Russell Administrator Staff Member

    This video about "big oil" is a very impressive production. There's another companion video, "How big oil conquered the world", which is part 1 of the series. Transcripts and links are available at Corbett's website:

    Corbett's analysis says that the oligarchs are primarily motivated by eugenics, "technocracy", and a sort of environmentalism that looks primarily to population reduction as the main strategy for earth preservation.

    It's far from obvious to me, how this modern agenda relates to the more ancient religious template for implementing a globalist regime. But aside from the Rockefellers, the film shows that the oil business was largely commandeered by British and Dutch royalty, and by Rothschild banking interests. So it may be that they see little or no conflict between the two motivating ideologies.
  17. lorenhough

    lorenhough Well-Known Member

    Thanks Jerry I am happy to have your input
    Wishing you well
    I am happy to be back
    You asked what I mean by being helpful.
    I would say we learn and share with one another
    What it takes to survive..happily with families and friends..
  18. lorenhough

    lorenhough Well-Known Member

    The big picture with Corbertreport. I don't always agree like on Fukushima but I do Like a lot of his stuff. He talks about the who, China and much more. I got a friend of mine on corbertreport show on 9-11 justice, he was died 6 months from heart failure at 59.
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  19. Jerry Russell

    Jerry Russell Administrator Staff Member

    Here's an excerpt of the above interview with Corbett, generated by YouTube's voice-to-text software. Corbett says the same thing here that I've been saying, that the "ruling oligarchy" consists of multiple power centers or factions.

    big picture is that there is a ruling
    oligarchy that works to preserve its
    power and that ultimate goal the
    ultimate goal of that ruling oligarchy
    is consolidated control over the entire
    planet and its resources and its
    population and that's the big picture
    there are a lot of fine details that go
    along with that but I think that's how I
    would frame it would you narrow it down
    to like the Western anglo-saxon bankers
    would you say that's who they are no I
    would not narrow it down in that way
    because I think the ruling oligarchy we
    tend to think of it as a monolithic and
    singular thing and it boils down to a
    group of 12 people sitting around a
    table or something like that
    I think that's cartoonish I think that
    there are many people in every single
    power structure everywhere around the
    globe who participate in the creation of
    this ultimate system all believing that
    they have a seat at that table or
    perhaps the prime seat at that table and
    they will backstab each other in things
    like this so I don't think it's a unit
    unitary group I think there are certain
    groups that are power centers within
    that ruling oligarchy and I think the
    anglo-american establishment identified
    by by carroll quigley and his works are
    an important part of that but i would
    not say that they're the only power
  20. lorenhough

    lorenhough Well-Known Member

    big picture is that there is a ruling
    oligarchy that works to preserve its
    power and that ultimate goal the
    ultimate goal of that ruling oligarchy
    is consolidated control over the entire
    planet and its resources and its

    I agree with this LH

    and that's the big picture
    there are a lot of fine details that go
    along with that but I think that's how I
    would frame it would you narrow it down
    to like the Western anglo-saxon bankers
    would you say that's who they are no I
    would not narrow it down in that way

    I would agree here but I have always said it not jus bankers who work.

    because I think the ruling oligarchy we
    tend to think of it as a monolithic and
    singular thing and it boils down to a
    group of 12 people sitting around a
    table or something like that.

    We don't know as there are circles in side circles that may not know each other .

    I think that
    there are many people in every single
    power structure everywhere around the
    globe who participate in the creation of
    this ultimate system all believing that
    they have a seat at that table or
    perhaps the prime seat at that table and
    they will backstab each other in things
    like this so I don't think it's a unit
    unitary group I think there are certain
    groups that are power centers within
    that ruling oligarchy and I think the
    anglo-american establishment identified
    by by carroll quigley and his works are
    an important.

    I agree but these people work for the people above them.

    Over time families come and go empires come and go.

    Things change ..

    As the power elite learn they get better at control.

    As technology changes it's easer to kill a million people then control them.

    What we do know as they have told us they don't not need us . And there will be if they have there way only 500 million in the world in verry large smart cities.

    In a brave new world

    Rome pope
    London ****is still A empire just changed it name only to common wealth
    And now China

    All empires look there.

    All have very rich families running the show
    But the instructions go on for 1000s of years like


    United Nations
    World banks
    Are the next centers

    As Joe would say what keeps them together family relationships religion etc.

    The big picture I think we don't know who is in control
    We do there is a person or group in control for sure
    That people who know could never talk about ..

    The Rothschilds for me are shields to hide the hand the is in control
    No way do they control the world
    The queen of England or the popes have more to say then any banker ..
    Last edited: Nov 14, 2017 at 10:23 PM

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