http://caesarsmessiahproven.com This excellent website belongs to Giles Gaffney, who seems to be the same as our Gilius (based on certain literary parallels I've observed). I hope we haven't scared Gilius away... I'd like to continue the discussion about possibly updating the complete Flavian Signature in full color, and maybe for peer review. I noticed that Gilius has been debating with unbelievers over at skeptiko, and was having trouble convincing them even of the Lunatic Jesus parallel. Some people just can't be convinced of anything, I suppose, but even Carrier accepts that one. From "On the Historicity of Jesus": It would appear this story inspired the general outline of Mark’s entire Passover Narrative. There are at least twenty significant parallels (and one reversal): 1 Both are named Jesus. 2 Both come to Jerusalem during a major religious festival. Mk 14.2 = JW 6.301 3 Both entered the temple area to rant against the temple. Mk 11.15-17 = JW 6.301 4 During which both quote the same chapter of Jeremiah. Jer. 7.11 in Mk; Jer. 7.34 in JW 5 Both then preach daily in the temple. Mk 14.49 = JW 6.306 6 Both declared ‘woe’ unto Judea or the Jews. Mk 13.17 = JW 6.304, 306, 309 7 Both predict the temple will be destroyed. Mk 13.2 = JW 6.300, 309 8 Both are for this reason arrested by the Jews. Mk 14.43 = JW 6.302 9 Both are accused of speaking against the temple. Mk 14.58 = JW 6.302 10 Neither makes any defense of himself against the charges. Mk 14.60 = JW 6.302 11 Both are beaten by the Jews. Mk 14.65 = JW 6.302 12 Then both are taken to the Roman governor. Pilate in Mk 15.1 = Albinus in JW 6.302 13 Both are interrogated by the Roman governor. Mk 15.2-4 = JW 6.305 14 During which both are asked to identify themselves. Mk 15.2 = JW 6.305 15 And yet again neither says anything in his defense. Mk 15.3-5 = JW 6.305 16 Both are then beaten by the Romans. Mk 15.15 = JW 6.304 17 In both cases the Roman governor decides he should release him. 18 . . . but doesn’t (Mark); . . . but does (JW). Mk 15.6-15 vs. JW 6.305 19 Both are finally killed by the Romans (in Mark, by execution; in the JW, by artillery). Mk 15.34 = JW 6.308-309 20 Both utter a lament for themselves immediately before they die. Mk 15.34 = JW 6.309 21 Both die with a loud cry. Mk 15.37 = JW 6.309 Carrier also accepts parallels between Mark and Homer; see: http://infidels.org/library/modern/rich ... dmark.html I think Carrier is painting himself into a corner, because the entire Flavian Signature is stronger than any of this (and incorporates the Lunatic Jesus as one of forty-seven). The coup de grace will be if / when we do the math on the verbatim parallels.